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Bajajim
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 Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:16 am Post subject: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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Easy Cheap Dependable fix…
<![if !supportLists]>1) <![endif]>Replace your “Flap Toggle Switch” with a Double Pole (on) off on switch. (Same as original but Double Pole)
<![if !supportLists]>2) <![endif]>On the 2nd pole (not controlling your flaps) install a single pole double throw “Relay”.
Install the relay so when your flaps are in the -3degree position (Cruse position) the relay is activated.
Any other position “Off” (On) climb out or landing configuration the relay will not be energized or normally closed.
<![if !supportLists]>3) <![endif]>Split the 14v power to both legs of the relay (Line side of the relay) “Normally open and normally closed legs of the relay”.
<![if !supportLists]>4) <![endif]>On the “Normally Closed” (1st leg) pin on the relay (Load side of the relay) run your 14 volt power through the closed contacts,
You now have full power to your trim motor.
You will need full speed trim for takeoff and landing configurations.
<![if !supportLists]>5) <![endif]>On the 2nd leg of the relay (load side) the relay hook up a 9 volt 7809t voltage regulator with a capacitor.
Connect the 9 volt wire to the 14v wire on the (LOAD SIDE OF THE RELAY) that connects back to your trim motor power.
Now when you are in the -3 Degree cruse position the relay is activated.
You are now feeding your trim motor with 9 volts and this will slow your trim motor down enough for “Fine Feathering”.
<![if !supportLists]>6) <![endif]>So when your flap switch is in the Off or (ON) position your relay will be closed and feeding 14volts to the trim motor.
When your flaps are in the ON position (Normal Cruse -3 degrees) your relay is active and switches the power to 9volts for your trim motor speed reduction.
Works like a dream.
Costs about $20.
$10 for the Double Pole On Off (ON) toggle switch
$5 for the 12v/14v relay (Fog light, horn, etc relay) Checker auto
$3 for the voltage regulator Radio Shack or Fry’s
$2 for the capacitor Radio Shack or Fry’s
Optional computer fan 3 wire plug to plug the voltage regulator into for easy termination $.99. Radio Shack or Fry’s
Jim Villani
Kit# 41084
164.3 hours
Flying 11 months
Jim(at)JimVillani.com
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Subject: RE: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim
I would like to know also as I have the identical setup as John. Thanks!
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Bob Turner
Joined: 03 Jan 2009
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Location: Castro Valley, CA
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:23 am Post subject: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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A few thoughts.
I like to cruise with the flap switch in the off position, but your set up requires one to leave it in the up position. If the flap limit switch fails the flap motor will run continuously.
If one desires to take off with no flaps (-3 reflex) he has to put the switch in the off position - opposite of cruise. My point is, there are operational choices to be made, so this is not too different from just putting in a dedicated trim speed switch.
I found it difficult to slow the trim as much as I would like, using just lower voltages, without using voltages so low that the trim motor would stall. Since you've already got some electronics there, for just a few bucks more you could put in a pulse width modulation system and adjust it to go as slow as you like.
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Bajajim
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:51 pm Post subject: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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You don’t have a separate "Cut off switch" for flap motor?
Put it in the Minus 3 position then turn it to off (center position) still
works at full speed...
It is On "top position" Off "Middle position" (On) "bottom position."
It stalled because you didn’t use a capacitor...
And if the Pulse Modulator fails?..
I like the KISS plan...
Keep it simple...
Jim Villani
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Fax: (702) 946-1185
Email: Jim(at)Sold702.com
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:10 am Post subject: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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Since I'm not there yet, is the flap speed really a 'problem' worth all
this trouble? Is the flap position 'critical' for safe operation?
Linn
On 12/5/2013 2:23 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
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A few thoughts.
I like to cruise with the flap switch in the off position, but your set up requires one to leave it in the up position. If the flap limit switch fails the flap motor will run continuously.
If one desires to take off with no flaps (-3 reflex) he has to put the switch in the off position - opposite of cruise. My point is, there are operational choices to be made, so this is not too different from just putting in a dedicated trim speed switch.
I found it difficult to slow the trim as much as I would like, using just lower voltages, without using voltages so low that the trim motor would stall. Since you've already got some electronics there, for just a few bucks more you could put in a pulse width modulation system and adjust it to go as slow as you like.
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:18 am Post subject: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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Flap speed is not a problem. Elevator trim speed is definitely a
problem in cruise,
and I'd call it critical for safe operation that the speed be reduced
above about
110kts.
Tim
On 12/6/2013 11:09 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
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Since I'm not there yet, is the flap speed really a 'problem' worth
all this trouble? Is the flap position 'critical' for safe operation?
Linn
On 12/5/2013 2:23 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
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> A few thoughts.
> I like to cruise with the flap switch in the off position, but your
> set up requires one to leave it in the up position. If the flap limit
> switch fails the flap motor will run continuously.
> If one desires to take off with no flaps (-3 reflex) he has to put
> the switch in the off position - opposite of cruise. My point is,
> there are operational choices to be made, so this is not too
> different from just putting in a dedicated trim speed switch.
> I found it difficult to slow the trim as much as I would like, using
> just lower voltages, without using voltages so low that the trim
> motor would stall. Since you've already got some electronics there,
> for just a few bucks more you could put in a pulse width modulation
> system and adjust it to go as slow as you like.
>
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> Bob Turner
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Bob Turner
Joined: 03 Jan 2009
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Location: Castro Valley, CA
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:25 am Post subject: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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I think you mis-read, this post is about pitch trim motor speed, not flap speeds. One poster has tied a change in trim speed to his flap position, others are using a speed sensitive device (safe trim).
Yes, the trim speed as it comes from Vans is about right for takeoff and landing but too fast for cruise.
Edit: Tim answered while I was typing.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:42 am Post subject: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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I've not found the trim speed to be that much of a problem. I just have 'bumped' the hat switch in the direction it needs trim. At least that's the way it works on the -10 I've flown. My suggestion is to see how your plane operates and then make changes as needed. There may be some variations between individual systems and or operator desires.
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To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix..
--> RV10-List message posted by: Linn Walters <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
Since I'm not there yet, is the flap speed really a 'problem' worth all
this trouble? Is the flap position 'critical' for safe operation?
Linn
On 12/5/2013 2:23 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
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> A few thoughts.
> I like to cruise with the flap switch in the off position, but your set up requires one to leave it in the up position. If the flap limit switch fails the flap motor will run continuously.
> If one desires to take off with no flaps (-3 reflex) he has to put the switch in the off position - opposite of cruise. My point is, there are operational choices to be made, so this is not too different from just putting in a dedicated trim speed switch.
> I found it difficult to slow the trim as much as I would like, using just lower voltages, without using voltages so low that the trim motor would stall. Since you've already got some electronics there, for just a few bucks more you could put in a pulse width modulation system and adjust it to go as slow as you like.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:50 am Post subject: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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Thanks Bob, getting old sucks!!!
So, to continue on with the thread, why not install a PW control as you
suggested or run the trim off 6V?
Linn
On 12/6/2013 12:25 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
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I think you mis-read, this post is about pitch trim motor speed, not flap speeds. One poster has tied a change in trim speed to his flap position, others are using a speed sensitive device (safe trim).
Yes, the trim speed as it comes from Vans is about right for takeoff and landing but too fast for cruise.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:54 am Post subject: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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I have not had a problem. I did put in the safety trim system so the most I can do is 3 seconds at a time. I think 3 seconds at cruse could lead to a little bit of challenge, but not impossible to handle.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Danny Riggs
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 10:42 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix...
I've not found the trim speed to be that much of a problem. I just have 'bumped' the hat switch in the direction it needs trim. At least that's the way it works on the -10 I've flown. My suggestion is to see how your plane operates and then make changes as needed. There may be some variations between individual systems and or operator desires.
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From: flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix...
--> RV10-List message posted by: Linn Walters <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)>
Since I'm not there yet, is the flap speed really a 'problem' worth all
this trouble? Is the flap position 'critical' for safe operation?
Linn
On 12/5/2013 2:23 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
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> A few thoughts.
> I like to cruise with the flap switch in the off position, but your set up requires one to leave it in the up position. If the flap limit switch fails the flap motor will run continuously.
> If one desires to take off with no flaps (-3 reflex) he has to put the switch in the off position - opposite of cruise. My point is, there are operational choices to be made, so this is not too different from just putting in a dedicated trim speed switch.
> I found it difficult to slow the trim as much as I would like, using just lower voltages, without using voltages so low that the trim motor would stall. Since you've already got some electronics there, for just a few bucks more you could put in a pulse width modulation system and adjust it to go as slow as you like.
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Bajajim
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:55 am Post subject: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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I use to bump my hat also with limited control.
With the speed reduction in cruse position your adjustment is so fine it is almost like an altitude hold.
A 30% reduction in speed really makes a difference in feathering the trim.
Jim Villani
Kit# 41084
Jim(at)JimVillani.com
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Danny Riggs
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 9:43 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix...
I've not found the trim speed to be that much of a problem. I just have 'bumped' the hat switch in the direction it needs trim. At least that's the way it works on the -10 I've flown. My suggestion is to see how your plane operates and then make changes as needed. There may be some variations between individual systems and or operator desires.
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From: flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix...
--> RV10-List message posted by: Linn Walters <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)>
Since I'm not there yet, is the flap speed really a 'problem' worth all
this trouble? Is the flap position 'critical' for safe operation?
Linn
On 12/5/2013 2:23 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu (bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu)>
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> A few thoughts.
> I like to cruise with the flap switch in the off position, but your set up requires one to leave it in the up position. If the flap limit switch fails the flap motor will run continuously.
> If one desires to take off with no flaps (-3 reflex) he has to put the switch in the off position - opposite of cruise. My point is, there are operational choices to be made, so this is not too different from just putting in a dedicated trim speed switch.
> I found it difficult to slow the trim as much as I would like, using just lower voltages, without using voltages so low that the trim motor would stall. Since you've already got some electronics there, for just a few bucks more you could put in a pulse width modulation system and adjust it to go as slow as you like.
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:57 am Post subject: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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Danny,
This isn't an issue of how easy it is to trim, this is an issue of safety.
Yes, bumping it for a fraction of a second will indeed make it trim reasonably
slow and you can indeed use it that way.
The issue of safety is what happens when you accidently hit the switch.
Even as early as my flyoff period, I had a clipboard hit the trim hat,
and within a couple seconds I was in a hard nose-up climb. I did some testing
later after adding safety trim to see just how bad it gets, and really if you
have anything (ipad, book, checklist, chart, person) lay on that switch for a
full second or more, it gets scary and for much longer than a second you
could get close to having g-rating problems perhaps. So best to just
do speed reduction for sure. The side benefit is that you can then even
have MORE fine control over trim, because that same bump you use now
is reduced to maybe 1/8th what it is.
Tim
On 12/6/2013 11:42 AM, Danny Riggs wrote:
[quote] I've not found the trim speed to be that much of a problem. I just have 'bumped' the hat switch in the direction it needs trim. At least that's the way it works on the -10 I've flown. My suggestion is to see how your plane operates and then make changes as needed. There may be some variations between individual systems and or operator desires.
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:09:57 -0500
> From: flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
> Subject: Re: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix...
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: Linn Walters <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com> (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)
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> Since I'm not there yet, is the flap speed really a 'problem' worth all
> this trouble? Is the flap position 'critical' for safe operation?
> Linn
>
> On 12/5/2013 2:23 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> (bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu)
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> > A few thoughts.
> > I like to cruise with the flap switch in the off position, but your set up requires one to leave it in the up position. If the flap limit switch fails the flap motor will run continuously.
> > If one desires to take off with no flaps (-3 reflex) he has to put the switch in the off position - opposite of cruise. My point is, there are operational choices to be made, so this is not too different from just putting in a dedicated trim speed switch.
> > I found it difficult to slow the trim as much as I would like, using just lower voltages, without using voltages so low that the trim motor would stall. Since you've already got some electronics there, for just a few bucks more you could put in a pulse width modulation system and adjust it to go as slow as you like.
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Bajajim
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:05 am Post subject: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix... |
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I concur 100%.
That is what drove me to slow it down, a sudden bump and you are in another world…
Jim Villani
Kit# 41084
Jim(at)JimVillani.com
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 9:57 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: RV 10 Aileron Trim easy fix...
Danny,
This isn't an issue of how easy it is to trim, this is an issue of safety.
Yes, bumping it for a fraction of a second will indeed make it trim reasonably
slow and you can indeed use it that way.
The issue of safety is what happens when you accidently hit the switch.
Even as early as my flyoff period, I had a clipboard hit the trim hat,
and within a couple seconds I was in a hard nose-up climb. I did some testing
later after adding safety trim to see just how bad it gets, and really if you
have anything (ipad, book, checklist, chart, person) lay on that switch for a
full second or more, it gets scary and for much longer than a second you
could get close to having g-rating problems perhaps. So best to just
do speed reduction for sure. The side benefit is that you can then even
have MORE fine control over trim, because that same bump you use now
is reduced to maybe 1/8th what it is.
Tim
On 12/6/2013 11:42 AM, Danny Riggs wrote:
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I've not found the trim speed to be that much of a problem. I just have 'bumped' the hat switch in the direction it needs trim. At least that's the way it works on the -10 I've flown. My suggestion is to see how your plane operates and then make changes as needed. There may be some variations between individual systems and or operator desires.
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Since I'm not there yet, is the flap speed really a 'problem' worth all
this trouble? Is the flap position 'critical' for safe operation?
Linn
On 12/5/2013 2:23 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
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> A few thoughts.
> I like to cruise with the flap switch in the off position, but your set up requires one to leave it in the up position. If the flap limit switch fails the flap motor will run continuously.
> If one desires to take off with no flaps (-3 reflex) he has to put the switch in the off position - opposite of cruise. My point is, there are operational choices to be made, so this is not too different from just putting in a dedicated trim speed switch.
> I found it difficult to slow the trim as much as I would like, using just lower voltages, without using voltages so low that the trim motor would stall. Since you've already got some electronics there, for just a few bucks more you could put in a pulse width modulation system and adjust it to go as slow as you like.
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I have the flap controller install just as Van's provides. Works just fine.
Flap position indication is a simple look out the window.
I have the two speed safety trim controller and I recommend it. After 10
years of flying an 8A with just the single speed elevator & aileron trim I
am used to not having the slow trim speed option - so I rarely use it in the
RV-10.
Carl
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The issue of safety is what happens when you accidently hit the switch.
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Because of this I did not put a top hat on the right side (there is a panel rocker switch for when I fly from the right seat).
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I wired both stick in parallel ..... with a switch in the co-pilot
ground to disable that stick.
All the other buttons on the co-pilot side can cause consternation to
the pilot!!!!
Linn
On 12/6/2013 6:03 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
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Tim Olson wrote:
The issue of safety is what happens when you accidently hit the switch.
Tim
Because of this I did not put a top hat on the right side (there is a panel rocker switch for when I fly from the right seat).
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Yep - I did the same except the switch on the panel controls the common
ground such that the pilot or co-pilot trim top hat and flaps work. This
way if the pilot stick switch breaks (as on sticks shut) moving the panel
toggle switch to the co-pilot position isolates the fault as well as
restores trim/flap control buy using the co-pilot grip switches.
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I like that idea! Simple switch change. Thanks.
Linn
On 12/6/2013 8:28 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
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Yep - I did the same except the switch on the panel controls the common
ground such that the pilot or co-pilot trim top hat and flaps work. This
way if the pilot stick switch breaks (as on sticks shut) moving the panel
toggle switch to the co-pilot position isolates the fault as well as
restores trim/flap control buy using the co-pilot grip switches.
Carl
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My aileron trim consists of switching the fuel selector to to heavy side. Works every time and no runaway issues.
N312F - flying again after the bird strike repairs!
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On Dec 6, 2013, at 12:25 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
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I think you mis-read, this post is about pitch trim motor speed, not flap speeds. One poster has tied a change in trim speed to his flap position, others are using a speed sensitive device (safe trim).
Yes, the trim speed as it comes from Vans is about right for takeoff and landing but too fast for cruise.
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The Vertical Power systems have trim speeds built in, and runaway cutoff as well.
John
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Unfortunately VP has just been sold. Remains to be seen if the new company will continue production and support for E-AB equipment.
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