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KeysFox

Joined: 05 Jan 2009
Posts: 137

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:35 pm Post subject: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

I am learning Photo Bucket and some of these are repeat photos, others are

new and some that I sent earlier were  dropped.



Some explanatory captions have been added to these so you know what you

are looking at or why I selected them



Hope it works and folks get a kick out of them.  BY GOLLY I sure have had

FUN flying along and taking them.



BJ

Kitfox IV 912 Warp Drive, towed in an enclosed trailer

behind a Roadtrek 190 Popular conversion van style motorhome



http://s1205.photobucket.com/user/N154K/media/DSC00581.jpg.html

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B Jones
N154K
443-480-1023

SkySteve

Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 94
Location: Huntsville, UT

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

BJ,

Great photos!  Thanks for sharing your adventures. You are sure livin' the life. Tell us more about your trailer. It looks sweet.

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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel

KeysFox

Joined: 05 Jan 2009
Posts: 137

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

Steve,



I thought I sent this post below this one but did not see it come in at my

end so i am sending it again.



When I figure out how to segregate photos by topic on Photo Bucket, i'll

try to post a set of trailer specific pictures with details of key trailer

considerations - there are a bunch



When I happened to display the plane, trailer and motorhome set-up at

Page, Az for their wings and wheels event, there were a ton of kids. It

did my heart good to see so many kids fawn over the plane and pictures

that I had on display. Many went completely a binder of 8 X 10 glossy

photos from flights, touched or petted the cowl of the plane and hugged on

the prop. One little guy was extremely excited, pointing all sorts of

things out to his parents and dragging them all around the plane. I

mentioned to the parents,  "It looks like you folks have a budding pilot"

and they said Oh Yeah! His nick name is already ACE. I was reluctant to

have the plane in the crowd area but changed my mind after so many kids

seemed to be enthralled.



Steve,



I use an enclosed trailer. The idea of having the plane exposed while

traveling cross country and touring invites problems, kids, road debris,

etc.



Our place in the  Florida Keys is an astonishingly corrosive environment

and a typical T hanger rents for $6,000 per year so the trailer also

serves as a hanger for me,  which saves lots of money and protects the

plane. A new enclosed trailer for a Kitfox can be had for about $5,500, -

see Barnstormers.



I have loaded the plane both ways in different trailers, currently loading

tail first with the tail wheel on a small (read cheap) flat trailer. I set

it up this way originally to get the best towing weight balance for this

particular enclosed trailer.



However, when the wings are folded The plane is very easy to move, even on

lose gravel with the "large" tail wheel trailer tires. The tail is

elevated on the little trailer of course, so the wings fold and unfold

easy with no down and back force. Wings swing with two fingers. Gas does

not run out of gas caps if the tanks are near full. The tongue of the tail

wheel trailer has a bar extending across it about a foot on each side to

hold onto while moving the plane - works great.



The tongue of the small trailer clamps on a hitch ball mounted to the

front frame of the enclosed trailer so it is locked in position while

bouncing down the road. The plane's tail wheel is pinned into a socket so

it can't move either. And since I siphon gas out of the wings before going

out on the road for long distances or on rough roads, the wing tanks are

about at the perfect angle for siphoning when the tail of the plane is up

on the trailer. I swing one wing, start the siphon on that side while

swinging the other wing, then siphon the second side while installing the

wing support struts.



This sounds time consuming but I can pull the plane out of the enclosed

trailer, tow it thru the back gate of the nearby airport, swing the wings

into position and be ready to fly in 12 minutes make it 15 if I need to

add gas.



The prop with a 912 does not rotate while towing.



I know I gotta get some pictures up.



BJ

Kitfox IV 912 Warp Drive

2004 RT Roadtrek 190 Pop> 

<Wilson(at)REinfo.org>

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 BJ,

 Great photos!  Thanks for sharing your adventures. You are sure livin' the

 life. Tell us more about your trailer. It looks sweet.



 --------

 Steve Wilson

 Huntsville, UT

 Kitfox Model 1- 85DD

 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive

 Convertible Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415421#415421

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B Jones
N154K
443-480-1023

jlcrowder(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:29 pm Post subject: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

Great pictures and great idea.  Where did you get the trailer and does it

have a brand name and model?

Thanks,   Jim



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KeysFox

Joined: 05 Jan 2009
Posts: 137

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:02 am Post subject: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

James

My current trailer is a one off by a manufacturer that is not in business.

A fellow advertises on Bsrnstormer. He sells trailers built to hanger and or transport folding wing planes

BJ





Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone





-------- Original message --------

From: James Crowder <jlcrowder(at)gmail.com> 

Date: 12/12/2013  2:29 AM  (GMT-05:00) 

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com 

Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox 

 



--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "James Crowder" <jlcrowder(at)gmail.com>



Great pictures and great idea.  Where did you get the trailer and does it

have a brand name and model?

Thanks,   Jim



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N154K
443-480-1023

peteohms

Joined: 31 Oct 2007
Posts: 224
Location: Leander, TX

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:46 am Post subject: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

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Pete

Kitfox III, 912

Leander, TX



On Dec 12, 2013, at 1:29 AM, "James Crowder" <jlcrowder(at)gmail.com> wrote:



[quote] 

 

 Great pictures and great idea.  Where did you get the trailer and does it

 have a brand name and model?

 Thanks,   Jim

 

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Pete
Leander, TX
Kitfox III, 912ul, Grove

SkySteve

Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 94
Location: Huntsville, UT

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

Pete,

Thanks for posting the trailer info.

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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel

peteohms

Joined: 31 Oct 2007
Posts: 224
Location: Leander, TX

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:37 am Post subject: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

Looks like a nice trailer.  I need one for a hangar.  We're getting kicked off our field for new development.  Hangar nearby is $325. Ouch!



Pete





On Dec 13, 2013, at 7:18 AM, "SkySteve" <Wilson(at)REinfo.org> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Pete,

 Thanks for posting the trailer info.

 

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 Steve Wilson

 Huntsville, UT

 Kitfox Model 1- 85DD

 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive 

 Convertible Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415492#415492

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Pete
Leander, TX
Kitfox III, 912ul, Grove

SkySteve

Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 94
Location: Huntsville, UT

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:46 am Post subject: Re: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

Yea, Pete, I understand. I currently pay $300/month for an unheated T hangar. But, with the Kitfox I also store my pickup camper and 4 horse trailer in it. And, no hangar rash because no one else is in it with me. I can get one for $200/month but would have to put up with 4 or 5 other planes in the same hangar, not be able to store my camper & horse trailer, and everyone has to move planes to get in & out.

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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:35 am Post subject: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

On 12/13/2013 6:46 AM, SkySteve wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   But, with the Kitfox I also store my pickup camper and 4 horse trailer in it.

Steve,
	


     Heard the stories about the FAA cracking down on non-aircraft stuff 

in the hangar? Some really scary stuff going on out there. I sometimes 

wonder if people associated with government are just loosing their minds.



Guy Buchanan

Ramona, CA

Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded

Now a glider pilot, too.

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Deceased K-IV 1200
A glider pilot too.

SkySteve

Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 94
Location: Huntsville, UT

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

Guy,

Yes, the FAA thinks they now are "hangar police", so does Homeland Security under the guise of TSA. We have all of the above at my home airport and they do try to wave a heavy hand. My home airport requires at least one aircraft in each hangar, so there is lea way there. All of us pilots keep an eye out for TSA, Homeland Security and FAA types and when found, the word circulates rapidly and hanger doors close and lock real fast. What a load of crap we have allowed our government to become, and at what point do good men stand up and say, "Enough"!  (Please forgive the rant. I guess I'm getting old enough I'm about ready, and think I am still able to both start and finish a good fight)

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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel

KeysFox

Joined: 05 Jan 2009
Posts: 137

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:14 pm Post subject: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

Pete,

Walmart bought our privately owned airport and kicked us out too, which

made me buy the Kitfox and the enclosed trailer.

I Sort of thank Walmart under my breath now because of how much fun the

Kitfox has been. Funny how things turn out sometimes.

I'll post some trailer pictures and thoughts shortly. You may find

something useful in those pictures and notes.

(My Fl. Keys hanger is $6,000 per year, but the trailer stays in our yard,

no tie down or hanger rent)

BJ

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 <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com>

 Looks like a nice trailer.  I need one for a hangar.  We're getting kicked

 off our field for new development.  Hangar nearby is $325. Ouch!

 Pete

 On Dec 13, 2013, at 7:18 AM, "SkySteve" <Wilson(at)REinfo.org> wrote:

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> Pete,

> Thanks for posting the trailer info.

>

> --------

> Steve Wilson

> Huntsville, UT

> Kitfox Model 1- 85DD

> 912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive

> Convertible Nosewheel &amp; Tailwheel

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415492#415492

>

>

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B Jones
N154K
443-480-1023

dan(at)rdan.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:51 pm Post subject: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

The trailer look awesome, id love to see more detailed pictures and dream of the lifestyle of when I'm done building my 7SS, retire load the plane up and hit the road



Sent from my iPad



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Dec 13, 2013, at 5:14 PM, bjones(at)dmv.com wrote:

 

 

 

 Pete,

 

 Walmart bought our privately owned airport and kicked us out too, which

 made me buy the Kitfox and the enclosed trailer.

 

 I Sort of thank Walmart under my breath now because of how much fun the

 Kitfox has been. Funny how things turn out sometimes.

 

 I'll post some trailer pictures and thoughts shortly. You may find

 something useful in those pictures and notes.

 

 (My Fl. Keys hanger is $6,000 per year, but the trailer stays in our yard,

 no tie down or hanger rent)

 

 BJ

 

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> <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com>

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> Looks like a nice trailer.  I need one for a hangar.  We're getting kicked

> off our field for new development.  Hangar nearby is $325. Ouch!

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> Pete

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7suds(at)Chartermi.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:34 pm Post subject: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

Steve,

I'm with you on the whole government thing, as you say we need good men that

still remember what it took to build this country and what it takes to keep

it free and strong representing us in Washington. The manufacturing plant

where I work recently had a surprise visit from the EPA, inspection went

well and during the small talk our environmental manager learned that the

inspector although representing the EPA was actually employed buy a company

out of China that was subcontracted by the EPA for the inspections, that

kind of stuff grinds me, like going to the White House for a tour and

finding out the souvenirs were made in China. 

(Yes, this is not the place for this discussion and I apologize for the off

topic subject).



Lloyd Cudnohufsky

Northern Mi.

KF 5 912UL IVO IFA

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SkySteve

Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Posts: 94
Location: Huntsville, UT

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Lake Powell & Fl Keys by Kitfox

Lloyd,

Thanks for your reply. Too many of us have been silent too long just hoping we weren't right. Rant over (for now).

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Steve Wilson
Huntsville, UT
Kitfox Model 1- 85DD
912A / 3 Blade Warp Drive
Convertible Nosewheel & Tailwheel

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