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Fred Klein



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject: Weight & Balance Reply with quote

I'm wondering if there's a mono-builder out there who has data from his (or her?) C of G calculations which would reveal how much the C of G shifts as a consequence of finish painting?

In other words, I'm wondering if I have an otherwise complete aircraft in primer and do a preliminary C of G calculation, how much of a shift should I estimate will occur when painting is complete?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:36 am    Post subject: Weight & Balance Reply with quote

Fred
If you know the wight of your finished aircraft and then paint it, it will balance out exactly the same but be heaver, there should be no shift unless you put all the paint on the rear fin and non on the cowls. I hope I have understood your Question.


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I'm wondering if there's a mono-builder out there who has data from his (or her?) C of G calculations which would reveal how much the C of G shifts as a consequence of finish painting?

In other words, I'm wondering if I have an otherwise complete aircraft in primer and do a preliminary C of G calculation, how much of a shift should I estimate will occur when painting is complete?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:53 am    Post subject: Weight & Balance Reply with quote

I'm not convinced of that, since the paint density is constant throughout and the moment arm is much much longer for the paint on the fin than on the cowls.

I would expect the cg to move rearward slightly....how much I'd have no idea


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Weight & Balance Reply with quote

Yes, Thinking a little more about it, you are probably correct, but the movement will be small.


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I'm not convinced of that, since the paint density is constant throughout and the moment arm is much much longer for the paint on the fin than on the cowls.
I would expect the cg to move rearward slightly....how much I'd have no idea.
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[quote]Fred
  If you know the wight of your finished aircraft and then paint it, it will balance out exactly the same but be heaver, there should be no shift unless you put all the paint on the rear fin and non on the cowls. I hope I have understood your Question.

 
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From: Fred Klein <fklein(at)orcasonline.com (fklein(at)orcasonline.com)>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Klein <fklein(at)orcasonline.com (fklein(at)orcasonline.com)>

I'm wondering if there's a mono-builder out there who has data from his (or her?) C of G calculations which would reveal how much the C of G shifts as a consequence of finish painting?

In other words, I'm wondering if I have an otherwise complete aircraft in primer and do a preliminary C of G calculation, how much of a shift should I estimate will occur when painting is complete?

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