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thexporter
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Afternoon Everyone:
We are at a point on our restoration efforts of an L-29 to weight it and calculate the CG.
I have a major problem, I can not find in any of my manuals a CG chart or datum.
Any advise or info would be very appreciated.
Regards,
Dennis Mitchell
Houston Texas
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: Center of Gravity - CG |
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You have something in L29 Maintenance Handbook, weighting procedures ([url=http://www.l-29.org/6.htm)]http://www.l-29.org/6.htm)[/url]I have also this documents if it can help
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Afternoon Everyone:
We are at a point on our restoration efforts of an L-29 to weight it and calculate the CG.
I have a major problem, I can not find in any of my manuals a CG chart or datum.
Any advise or info would be very appreciated.
Regards,
Dennis Mitchell
Houston Texas
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thexporter
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:22 am Post subject: Re: Center of Gravity - CG |
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Dear Mr. Jean de Roubin
Thank you very much for the diagram, my French is very lacking but with the Internet I can translate what I need very easily and solve the mystery.
I really appreciate you taking the time to post this information for me.
Respectfully,
Dennis
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject: Center of Gravity - CG |
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My pleasure !
So long !
Jean
Le 22 mars 09 à 02:22, thexporter a écrit :
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Dear Mr. Jean de Roubin
Thank you very much for the diagram, my French is very lacking but
with the Internet I can translate what I need very easily and solve
the mystery.
I really appreciate you taking the time to post this information for
me.
Respectfully,
Dennis
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: Center of Gravity - CG |
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Anyone out there need a complete set of L-29 Manuals? Aircraft and flight....
If so contact me directly (offline)
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thexporter
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Center of Gravity - CG |
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Everyone can get a free copy of the manuals via;
http://www.l-29.org/6.html
Thanks to there efforts to support the L-29 group.
BUT, if your offering a better quality English version of the manuals in a .PDF format or paper I'm interested.
My Engine manual (M701) is very difficult to read.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: Center of Gravity - CG |
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What is the typical ballast required if any in the nose?
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If you means weight in the nose, typically nothing. Maybe, if the IFF in out, same weight as the IFF.
I have a air compressor at place of IFF on my L29, so it have the same weight, plus or minus.
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What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
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If you means weight in the nose, typically nothing. Maybe, if the IFF in out, same weight as the IFF.
I have a air compressor at place of IFF on my L29, so it have the same weight, plus or minus.
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Exactly, I too have 103lbs in the nose. My empty weight is 5193. How does that compare? On Jan 16, 2014 5:46 PM, "Bill Geipel" <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)> wrote:[quote] --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)>
What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
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There are some weights in the tail too isn't there Bill?
BTW, have you had your tail section off lately?
Cheers,
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What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
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The weights are out of the tail and the tail was off in September for annual. On Jan 16, 2014 6:08 PM, "Frank Deeth" <tr.9(at)westnet.com.au (tr.9(at)westnet.com.au)> wrote:[quote] --> L29-List message posted by: Frank Deeth <tr.9(at)westnet.com.au (tr.9(at)westnet.com.au)>
There are some weights in the tail too isn't there Bill?
BTW, have you had your tail section off lately?
Cheers,
Frank
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About how much weight was in the tail?
Cheers,
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What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
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All radios and nav (radiocompass) were removed. Modern ones instead. As most is in the middle, it does not affect much center of gravity. As I have an air compressor in the nose right, place of IFF, my plane was weighted and is well balanced without any weight in the nose or in the the tail.
My empty weight is 5193 lbs with 28,85 % MAC.
Center of gravity should be beetween 20,5% and 25,5% MAC in flight (flight manual 5.
It flies like this from many years and goes out of stalls and spins without any problems.
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Le 16 janv. 2014 à 22:48, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com> a écrit :
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What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
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4995 empty weight.
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What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
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17 pounds in the tail. Steel plates.
Actually haven't even seen my jet since July and then only in passing.
Hang in there.
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Cheers,
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Hi Bill
Does yours not have the viper motor?
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| Quote: | On 17 Jan 2014, at 3:28, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com> wrote:
17 pounds in the tail. Steel plates.
Actually haven't even seen my jet since July and then only in passing.
Hang in there.
Bill
> On Jan 16, 2014, at 17:07, Frank Deeth <tr.9(at)westnet.com.au> wrote:
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> There are some weights in the tail too isn't there Bill?
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> BTW, have you had your tail section off lately?
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> Cheers,
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> Frank
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>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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>> What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
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>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 16:07, delfin29(at)me.com wrote:
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>>> If you means weight in the nose, typically nothing. Maybe, if the IFF in out, same weight as the IFF.
>>> I have a air compressor at place of IFF on my L29, so it have the same weight, plus or minus.
>>> Jean de Roubin
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>>>> Le 16 janv. 2014 à 21:54, ershire <jonairway(at)gmail.com> a écrit :
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>>>> What is the typical ballast required if any in the nose?
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>>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417032#417032
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:23 pm Post subject: Center of Gravity - CG |
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It does. Before I put the viper in, I removed 453 pounds and put in the 105 of weight in the nose.
The viper weights the same but sits about 15" aft of the 501. But since I've gained weight in my old age it still flys nice.
Bill
On Jan 17, 2014, at 0:23, Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za> wrote:
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Hi Bill
Does yours not have the viper motor?
Sent from my iPad
> On 17 Jan 2014, at 3:28, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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> 17 pounds in the tail. Steel plates.
> Actually haven't even seen my jet since July and then only in passing.
> Hang in there.
> Bill
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>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 17:07, Frank Deeth <tr.9(at)westnet.com.au> wrote:
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>> There are some weights in the tail too isn't there Bill?
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>> BTW, have you had your tail section off lately?
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>> Cheers,
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>> Frank
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
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>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 16:07, delfin29(at)me.com wrote:
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>>>> If you means weight in the nose, typically nothing. Maybe, if the IFF in out, same weight as the IFF.
>>>> I have a air compressor at place of IFF on my L29, so it have the same weight, plus or minus.
>>>> Jean de Roubin
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> Le 16 janv. 2014 à 21:54, ershire <jonairway(at)gmail.com> a écrit :
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>>>>>
>>>>> What is the typical ballast required if any in the nose?
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>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417032#417032
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| Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:37 pm Post subject: Center of Gravity - CG |
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My jet is not slow, just overweight. On Jan 17, 2014 8:24 PM, "Bill Geipel" <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)> wrote:[quote] --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)>
It does. Before I put the viper in, I removed 453 pounds and put in the 105 of weight in the nose.
The viper weights the same but sits about 15" aft of the 501. But since I've gained weight in my old age it still flys nice.
Bill
On Jan 17, 2014, at 0:23, Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za (jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za)> wrote:
> --> L29-List message posted by: Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za (jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za)>
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> Hi Bill
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> Does yours not have the viper motor?
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 17 Jan 2014, at 3:28, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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>> --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)>
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>> 17 pounds in the tail. Steel plates.
>> Actually haven't even seen my jet since July and then only in passing.
>> Hang in there.
>> Bill
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>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 17:07, Frank Deeth <tr.9(at)westnet.com.au (tr.9(at)westnet.com.au)> wrote:
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>>> --> L29-List message posted by: Frank Deeth <tr.9(at)westnet.com.au (tr.9(at)westnet.com.au)>
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>>> There are some weights in the tail too isn't there Bill?
>>>
>>> BTW, have you had your tail section off lately?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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>>>> --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)>
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>>>> What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 16:07, delfin29(at)me.com (delfin29(at)me.com) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> --> L29-List message posted by: delfin29(at)me.com (delfin29(at)me.com)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you means weight in the nose, typically nothing. Maybe, if the IFF in out, same weight as the IFF.
>>>>> I have a air compressor at place of IFF on my L29, so it have the same weight, plus or minus.
>>>>> Jean de Roubin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 16 janv. 2014 à 21:54, ershire <jonairway(at)gmail.com (jonairway(at)gmail.com)> a écrit :
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>>>>>> --> L29-List message posted by: "ershire" <jonairway(at)gmail.com (jonairway(at)gmail.com)>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the typical ballast required if any in the nose?
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417032#417032
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But still fun.
On Jan 17, 2014, at 19:36, Jon S <jonairway(at)gmail.com (jonairway(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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My jet is not slow, just overweight. On Jan 17, 2014 8:24 PM, "Bill Geipel" <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)> wrote: | Quote: | --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)>
It does. Before I put the viper in, I removed 453 pounds and put in the 105 of weight in the nose.
The viper weights the same but sits about 15" aft of the 501. But since I've gained weight in my old age it still flys nice.
Bill
On Jan 17, 2014, at 0:23, Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za (jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za)> wrote:
> --> L29-List message posted by: Jorgen Nielsen <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za (jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za)>
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> Hi Bill
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> Does yours not have the viper motor?
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 17 Jan 2014, at 3:28, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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>> --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)>
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>> 17 pounds in the tail. Steel plates.
>> Actually haven't even seen my jet since July and then only in passing.
>> Hang in there.
>> Bill
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>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 17:07, Frank Deeth <tr.9(at)westnet.com.au (tr.9(at)westnet.com.au)> wrote:
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>>> --> L29-List message posted by: Frank Deeth <tr.9(at)westnet.com.au (tr.9(at)westnet.com.au)>
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>>> There are some weights in the tail too isn't there Bill?
>>>
>>> BTW, have you had your tail section off lately?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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>>>> --> L29-List message posted by: Bill Geipel <l129bs(at)gmail.com (l129bs(at)gmail.com)>
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>>>> What have you removed from the airplane? I removed 400+ pounds of junk so I added 103 pounds in the nose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 16:07, delfin29(at)me.com (delfin29(at)me.com) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> --> L29-List message posted by: delfin29(at)me.com (delfin29(at)me.com)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you means weight in the nose, typically nothing. Maybe, if the IFF in out, same weight as the IFF.
>>>>> I have a air compressor at place of IFF on my L29, so it have the same weight, plus or minus.
>>>>> Jean de Roubin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 16 janv. 2014 à 21:54, ershire <jonairway(at)gmail.com (jonairway(at)gmail.com)> a écrit :
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>>>>>> --> L29-List message posted by: "ershire" <jonairway(at)gmail.com (jonairway(at)gmail.com)>
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>>>>>> What is the typical ballast required if any in the nose?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=417032#417032
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