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Dan Wilde

Joined: 05 Jun 2011
Posts: 34

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:21 pm Post subject: Flat tire on landing

Yesterday I went for a pleasant flight and landed at two airports before 

heading home to my dirt/grass strip.  I landed fine and continued 

taxiing to my shop.  The longer I taxied the more power I needed.  I 

knew right away that the tire must have gone flat but since it was only 

a few feet to my shop I finished moving it before stopping.  The tire 

was totally flat but I think that if I had needed to, I could have taken 

off and landed safely on the flat tire.  Has anyone had to do this?



Because I have had trouble in the past removing the tire from the wheel, 

I went to Harbor Fright and purchased a bead breaker for $49.99.  This 

was one of the best investments I have ever made.  The tire was off the 

rim if less than 5 minutes.  In the past using just hand tools, I had 

struggled for 3 hours to get the tire off the rim.  Typically the 

quality of tools from there is marginal but since I will only use this 

once in a great while, it should last and at this price I could not resist.



Dan

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randy(at)rjhebertassoc.co
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:36 pm Post subject: Flat tire on landing

Dan I too bought the bead breaker from HF.  It came in very handy since my

local repair shop charged $25 to fix the first flat.

I did the second one and it is working fine.



I haven't tried to T.O. or land with the flat.



Do you have tubes or tubeless?



I had two flats with the tubes that came with the wheels from Zenith.

My shop ordered two new tubes for me and they seem to be much better.  The

next time I get a flat I will convert to tubeless though.

Randall J. Hebert

N7701P



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frank goodnight

Joined: 27 Dec 2011
Posts: 126

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: Flat tire on landing

Dan

Never did it in my 701, but landed

With a flat tire 2 times in my kolb, both times I din't even know the tire was flat

Until I had slowed down to almost

Walking speed. However once stoped

I could not get started again,had to fix

It where it set.don't know if you could

Get a 701 moving again

Frank



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On Jan 20, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Dan Wilde <stolpilot.wilde(at)gmail.com> wrote:



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 Yesterday I went for a pleasant flight and landed at two airports before heading home to my dirt/grass strip.  I landed fine and continued taxiing to my shop.  The longer I taxied the more power I needed.  I knew right away that the tire must have gone flat but since it was only a few feet to my shop I finished moving it before stopping.  The tire was totally flat but I think that if I had needed to, I could have taken off and landed safely on the flat tire.  Has anyone had to do this?

 

 Because I have had trouble in the past removing the tire from the wheel, I went to Harbor Fright and purchased a bead breaker for $49.99.  This was one of the best investments I have ever made.  The tire was off the rim if less than 5 minutes.  In the past using just hand tools, I had struggled for 3 hours to get the tire off the rim.  Typically the quality of tools from there is marginal but since I will only use this once in a great while, it should last and at this price I could not resist.

 

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Dan Wilde

Joined: 05 Jun 2011
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:47 pm Post subject: Flat tire on landing

On 1/20/2014 2:36 PM, Randall Hebert wrote:

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 Dan I too bought the bead breaker from HF.  It came in very handy since my

 local repair shop charged $25 to fix the first flat.

 I did the second one and it is working fine.



 I haven't tried to T.O. or land with the flat.



 Do you have tubes or tubeless?



 I had two flats with the tubes that came with the wheels from Zenith.

 My shop ordered two new tubes for me and they seem to be much better.  The

 next time I get a flat I will convert to tubeless though.

 Randall J. Hebert

 N7701P

I am running tubeless.
	




Dan

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frank goodnight

Joined: 27 Dec 2011
Posts: 126

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:49 pm Post subject: Flat tire on landing

Randel,

I have the tubeless tires that came

With my 701 kit-- pretty but I have to air them up about every 2 or 3 weeks.

Not much of a problem but i plan to put tubes in them the weather gets better.

Frank



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On Jan 20, 2014, at 4:36 PM, "Randall Hebert" <randy(at)rjhebertassoc.com> wrote:



[quote] 

 

 Dan I too bought the bead breaker from HF.  It came in very handy since my

 local repair shop charged $25 to fix the first flat.

 I did the second one and it is working fine.

 

 I haven't tried to T.O. or land with the flat.

 

 Do you have tubes or tubeless?

 

 I had two flats with the tubes that came with the wheels from Zenith.

 My shop ordered two new tubes for me and they seem to be much better.  The

 next time I get a flat I will convert to tubeless though.

 

 

 Randall J. Hebert

 N7701P

 

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dougsnash

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Posts: 281

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject: Flat tire on landing

For those who are having trouble with the Matco tubeless tires leaking air at the split rim, I have found that if you coat the o-ring at the split in the rim with spray lithium grease the leaks go away.  Might be worth spraying the o-rings the next time you have you wheels apart. 



When I first installed the nose wheel on my 701 I had a slow leak which flattened the tire over the course of a couple of weeks.  The spray grease on the o-ring fixed it right up.  After greasing all of my wheel o-rings I might put a little air in my tires once a year (three frigid Canadian winters later).



Doug M

CH 701 in NW Ontario, Canada

 

 

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Randel,

I have the tubeless tires that came

With my 701 kit-- pretty but I have to air them up about every 2 or 3 weeks.

Not much of a problem but i plan to put tubes in them the weather gets better.

Frank



Sent from my iPhone



On Jan 20, 2014, at 4:36 PM, "Randall Hebert" <randy(at)rjhebertassoc.com (randy(at)rjhebertassoc.com)>  wrote:



[quote] --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "Randall Hebert" <randy(at)rjhebertassoc.com (randy(at)rjhebertassoc.com)>

 

 Dan I too bought the bead breaker from HF.  It came in very handy since my

 local repair shop charged $25 to fix the first flat.

 I did the second one and it is working fine.

 

 I haven't tried to T.O. or land with the flat.

 

 Do you have tubes or tubeless?

 

 I had two flats with the tubes that came with the wheels from Zenith.

 My shop ordered two new tubes for me and they seem to be much better.  The

 next time I get a flat I will convert to tubeless though.

 

 

 Randall J. Hebert

 N7701P

 

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frank goodnight

Joined: 27 Dec 2011
Posts: 126

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:37 pm Post subject: Flat tire on landing

Thanks for the info Doug.

I'll try it. Saves weight and money

Frank



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On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:32 PM, MacDonald Doug <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]For those who are having trouble with the Matco tubeless tires leaking air at the split rim, I have found that if you coat the o-ring at the split in the rim with spray lithium grease the leaks go away.  Might be worth spraying the o-rings the next time you have you wheels apart. 



When I first installed the nose wheel on my 701 I had a slow leak which flattened the tire over the course of a couple of weeks.  The spray grease on the o-ring fixed it right up.  After greasing all of my wheel o-rings I might put a little air in my tires once a year (three frigid Canadian winters later).



Doug M

CH 701 in NW Ontario, Canada

 

 

     On Monday, January 20, 2014 4:54:13 PM, Frank <frank.goodnight(at)att.net (frank.goodnight(at)att.net)> wrote:

  

  --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: Frank <frank.goodnight(at)att.net (frank.goodnight(at)att.net)>



Randel,

I have the tubeless tires that came

With my 701 kit-- pretty but I have to air them up about every 2 or 3 weeks.

Not much of a problem but i plan to put tubes in them the weather gets better.

Frank



Sent from my iPhone



On Jan 20, 2014, at 4:36 PM, "Randall Hebert" <randy(at)rjhebertassoc.com (randy(at)rjhebertassoc.com)>  wrote:



[quote] --> Zenith701801-List message posted by: "Randall Hebert" <randy(at)rjhebertassoc.com (randy(at)rjhebertassoc.com)>

 

 Dan I too bought the bead breaker from HF.  It came in very handy since my

 local repair shop charged $25 to fix the first flat.

 I did the second one and it is working fine.

 

 I haven't tried to T.O. or land with the flat.

 

 Do you have tubes or tubeless?

 

 I had two flats with the tubes that came with the wheels from Zenith.

 My shop ordered two new tubes for me and they seem to be much better.  The

 next time I get a flat I will convert to tubeless though.

 

 

 Randall J. Hebert

 N7701P

 

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akkeystone@gmail.com

Joined: 12 May 2013
Posts: 2

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:03 am Post subject: Flat tire on landing

I too had a flat tire on landing.  I had just switched from the 800 tires that came with the kit to 850's.  I was landing on a short gravel bar in "Hells Hole", named by boaters who got in trouble there.  I ended up in the creek because I could not keep the plane straight even with the other wheel was skidding.  The creek was only 1' deep.  I had a heck of a time getting the plane back up on to the gravel bar!  I stuffed the tire full of sea weed but still had lots of trouble (full power,one person pushing and heavy stuff tied to the other tie down ring.  I could not get the plane high enough to get above high tide.  The wheels and breaks got wet that night.  The next day a friend flew in a new tube.  In a couple of hours I was back home.  Shortly thereafter I got rid of the tubes with the funky stems that came out the center and installed regular tubes through a new hole in the side of the rim.  No problems since and that was 5 or 6 years ago. 



Bill Wilcox

Soldotna AK summer

Casa Grande AZ winter

N801BW

800 hrs

In the hanger for the witner  



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