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dvoverdt(at)hotmail.com
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 Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: Picking up kits from factory |
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I have been working on my 601xl for about 2 years now and buying the component kits as fast as I can save the money. A few weeks ago I put down a deposit on the rest of the 601xl airframe (fuselage, gear, control and canopy kits) and I am planning on picking it up in a couple of weeks.
My question is what is the smallest enclosed trailer I can rent to transport these kits? I will be pulling the trailer to Arizona with a Toyota Camry so I would prefer to use the smallest trailer possible. The sizes from Uhaul are 5x10, 5x8, 4x8.
I contacted the factory and they said the fuselage crate is 10 ft long. Looking at the plans the only pieces I see that are 10 ft are the flat skins, unless I missed something??? Can the flat skins be bent to fit in a smaller trailer or rolled? Any recommendations would be appreciated.
I have been reading this list for a couple of years and I wanted to thank all those who have gone before in the great airplane building endeavor. I have been saved many times by comments on this list and the excellent builder websites
Thanks,
Josh Kirk
Working on Wings
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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: Picking up kits from factory |
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Are you thinking of an open U-Haul trailer or an enclosed one? Because with
an open trailer the crate could extend beyond the front or the rear of the
trailer if need be. Just make sure the position you use gives you the
correct tongue weight. Also I don't know how much the crate weighs but make
sure the hitch plus your Camry is a high enough class towing set-up. I
believe that U-Haul's longer (dual axle?) trailers have brakes.
I would also consider U-Haul's Safe-Move insurance. Check the price and the
coverage but I think that if you lose the load the insurance will pay
something approaching the replacement cost of the kit. They offer it on the
trucks (and I bought it when I drove my kit from Michigan to Utah) but I
can't recall if it is also offered on their trailers.
-- Craig
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admin(at)arachnidrobotics
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: Picking up kits from factory |
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I'm building from the 'basic kit' (flat sheets of aluminum), so I can't comment on Zenith's crate size or packaging. I can tell you that the largest parts in the fuse (which I've FINALLY almost completed!) are the side skins. They roll quite nicely. I don't think you'd have any problems with a cargo van, or even a large mini van with the seats folded down.
I'm actually fabricating two of every part in the kit to help a friend out as he scratch builds a 601 as well. (CNC equipment is worth it's weight in gold!) He's had no problem fitting everything for the tail and fuse in a Toyota 4-Runner with the seat folded down. I have yet to acquire the canopy, so maybe it's large enough to warrant a 10' crate. I doubt it though.
Congrats on making the leap to the fuselage. There's nothing like having a place to sit and make airplane noises to motivate a builder to finish. Happy building!
Josh <dvoverdt(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
I have been working on my 601xl for about 2 years now and buying the component kits as fast as I can save the money. A few weeks ago I put down a deposit on the rest of the 601xl airframe (fuselage, gear, control and canopy kits) and I am planning on picking it up in a couple of weeks.
My question is what is the smallest enclosed trailer I can rent to transport these kits? I will be pulling the trailer to Arizona with a Toyota Camry so I would prefer to use the smallest trailer possible. The sizes from Uhaul are 5x10, 5x8, 4x8.
I contacted the factory and they said the fuselage crate is 10 ft long. Looking at the plans the only pieces I see that are 10 ft are the flat skins, unless I missed something??? Can the flat skins be bent to fit in a smaller trailer or rolled? Any recommendations would be appreciated.
I have been reading this list for a couple of years and I wanted to thank all those who have gone before in the great airplane building endeavor. I have been saved many times by comments on this list and the excellent builder websites
Thanks,
Josh Kirk
Working on Wings
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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:08 am Post subject: Picking up kits from factory |
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I picked up my kit un crated and it fit in a 12' u haul trailor. Why spend
the money on crating if you are picking it up?
Jeff
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noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:19 am Post subject: Picking up kits from factory |
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Buy a used trailer similar to a ski doo trailer or a double skidoo trailer.
Sell the trailer when you get home or modify it with a platform to tow your
completed plane.
I tow a double skidoo trailer with 560# of float equipped plane on a regular
basis with a Subaru Imprezza Outback .... No problems. Due to the design of
the plane I tow I have to keep the speed a little on the low side.
Two important things to consider when towing a trailer are; to make sure
the trailer can take the load and the load is balanced to give the correct
load on the hitch.
Noel
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601zv(at)ritternet.com
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: Picking up kits from factory |
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The canopy is rolled into a package just under six feet long and about twenty inches in diameter.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:44 am Post subject: Picking up kits from factory |
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All of the flat skins can be rolled up in a compact coil so they
don't pose a problem. The fuselage longerons are composed of eight
pieces of either extruded or bent L angles that are about ten feet
long. These are the longest parts you'll have to deal with. The rear
segments are straight and the forward segments are curved in the
shape of the forward fuselage. If you are using an enclosed trailer,
these parts could be stowed diagonally across the trailer with one
end at say the lower left rear corner and the other in the upper
right front corner. This may allow you to use a trailer shorter than
ten feet ( I am assuming that you won't need the crate since you are
picking the parts up yourself. Other than that, the longest and
heaviest part I can think of is the main gear spring which you
shouldn't have any trouble stowing in any of the trailers you mentioned.
On Jun 20, 2006, at 12:30 AM, Josh wrote:
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I have been working on my 601xl for about 2 years now and buying
the component kits as fast as I can save the money. A few weeks
ago I put down a deposit on the rest of the 601xl airframe
(fuselage, gear, control and canopy kits) and I am planning on
picking it up in a couple of weeks.
My question is what is the smallest enclosed trailer I can rent to
transport these kits? I will be pulling the trailer to Arizona
with a Toyota Camry so I would prefer to use the smallest trailer
possible. The sizes from Uhaul are 5x10, 5x8, 4x8.
Thanks,
Josh Kirk
Working on Wings
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N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
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LHusky(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: Picking up kits from factory |
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If you want a picture of everything in the kit before it is in the crate,
email me off line. I just came back from the factory a few weeks ago and took
a picture of a kit that someone was coming to pick up without a crate. As
far as the side skins go, I have rolled them up and taped them to save space.
They have stayed rolled for some time and when I removed the tape and layed
them flat, they were perfectly flat, so don't be afraid to roll the sheets up.
Just be carefull when unrolling them. I was putting everything in a
4Runner, but have since bought a small pickup for hauling things the right way.
Email me for the picture if you want it.
Larry Husky
Building rear fuse!
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dvoverdt(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: Picking up kits from factory |
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I would like to thank everyone for the advice. I think I will plan on
getting a 5x8 trailer and I should have plenty of room if I angle the
longerons and roll the skins.
Being able to pick up airplane parts and visit the factory should make
driving from Arizona to Missouri and spending a week visiting in-laws barely
tolerable... By the way Zenith was great about letting me pick up the kits
I requested at short notice.
Thanks Again
Josh
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