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I’ve just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn’t seem too bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet attached). In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a drawing, if possible.
Price: € 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests and/or questions.
Best regards,
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Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:30 am Post subject: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks |
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Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder (you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I’ve just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn’t seem too bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946[u][/u]
[u] [/u]
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet attached). In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a drawing, if possible.
Price: € 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions[u][/u]
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests and/or questions.
Best regards,
Follow us on [img]cid:2A74A8CE8F774F02B2DA5586DB4B9995(at)PulsarOffice[/img] [img]cid:B295203BDF054808B3A4346BBFA2A30B(at)PulsarOffice[/img] [img]cid:1BF123D78F524B2788A61C50F92CB4DD(at)PulsarOffice[/img]
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Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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gregsmi
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One other problem, the bladders may require you to remove the ribs in the tank. This is a structural issue. The ribs are required to spread the load to the spar. Without them, the end close out rib will take too much shear load, and we already know the end ribs will leak, the additional load will cause issues.
Greg
In a message dated 1/30/2014 9:30:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, bernard.wilder2(at)gmail.com writes:
| Quote: | Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder (you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | I’ve just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn’t seem too bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946[u][/u]
[u][/u]
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet attached). In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a drawing, if possible.
Price: € 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions[u][/u]
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests and/or questions.
Best regards,
Follow us on [/url] [url=https://www.facebook.com/pages/Merin-srl/199334633477083?ref=hl] [/url]
Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks |
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Greg,
        My wing tanks had no internal ribs, it just formed a D box in front of the spar.
Keith
From: owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GREGSMI(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:04 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
One other problem, the bladders may require you to remove the ribs in the tank. This is a structural issue. The ribs are required to spread the load to the spar. Without them, the end close out rib will take too much shear load, and we already know the end ribs will leak, the additional load will cause issues.
Greg
In a message dated 1/30/2014 9:30:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, bernard.wilder2(at)gmail.com writes:
| Quote: |
Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder (you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)> wrote:
I’ve just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn’t seem too bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet attached). In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a drawing, if possible.
Price: € 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests and/or questions.
Best regards,
Follow us on [img]cid:image001.png(at)01CF1E36.89548A40[/img] [img]cid:image002.png(at)01CF1E36.89548A40[/img] [img]cid:image003.png(at)01CF1E36.89548A40[/img]
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Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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Versione: 2014.0.4259 / Database dei virus: 3684/7043 - Data di rilascio: 29/01/2014
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kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks |
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Greg,
        My wing tanks had no ribs inside they just formed a D box, How would you put the 9700 in with ribs in the way ?
 Regards
Keith D. Palmer
~ Rotary Pulse Engines ~
(Lite weight alternative to combustion Engines for Hybrids )
(including aircraft)
~~~~~~~~~~~~
RPE-Skunkworx
P.O.Box 50512
Musgrave Road, 4062.
Durban.
KZN. – S.A.
LL Tel +27 (0)31 708 1428
Mobile +27 (0)82 832 5533
e-mail - RPE_Skunkworx(at)mweb.co.za (RPE_Skunkworx(at)mweb.co.za)
From: owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GREGSMI(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:04 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
One other problem, the bladders may require you to remove the ribs in the tank. This is a structural issue. The ribs are required to spread the load to the spar. Without them, the end close out rib will take too much shear load, and we already know the end ribs will leak, the additional load will cause issues.
Greg
In a message dated 1/30/2014 9:30:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, bernard.wilder2(at)gmail.com writes:
| Quote: |
Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder (you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)> wrote:
I’ve just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn’t seem too bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet attached). In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a drawing, if possible.
Price: € 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests and/or questions.
Best regards,
Follow us on [img]cid:image001.png(at)01CF1E48.1B546CB0[/img] [img]cid:image002.png(at)01CF1E48.1B546CB0[/img] [img]cid:image003.png(at)01CF1E48.1B546CB0[/img]
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Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
Nessun virus nel messaggio.
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Versione: 2014.0.4259 / Database dei virus: 3684/7043 - Data di rilascio: 29/01/2014
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kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za
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| Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:58 pm Post subject: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks |
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Greg,
         There are no ribs in the wing tanks they just form a D box
       Regards
Keith D. Palmer
~ Rotary Pulse Engines ~
(Lite weight alternative to combustion Engines for Hybrids )
(including aircraft)
~~~~~~~~~~~~
RPE-Skunkworx
P.O.Box 50512
Musgrave Road, 4062.
Durban.
KZN. – S.A.
LL Tel +27 (0)31 708 1428
Mobile +27 (0)82 832 5533
e-mail - RPE_Skunkworx(at)mweb.co.za (RPE_Skunkworx(at)mweb.co.za)
From: owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GREGSMI(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:04 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
One other problem, the bladders may require you to remove the ribs in the tank. This is a structural issue. The ribs are required to spread the load to the spar. Without them, the end close out rib will take too much shear load, and we already know the end ribs will leak, the additional load will cause issues.
Greg
In a message dated 1/30/2014 9:30:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, bernard.wilder2(at)gmail.com writes:
| Quote: |
Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder (you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)> wrote:
I’ve just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn’t seem too bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet attached). In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a drawing, if possible.
Price: € 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests and/or questions.
Best regards,
Follow us on [img]cid:image001.png(at)01CF1E49.4E29C580[/img] [img]cid:image002.png(at)01CF1E49.4E29C580[/img] [img]cid:image003.png(at)01CF1E49.4E29C580[/img]
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Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za
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Sorry my emails were not registering as being sent, so tried again , suddenly they all went at once
From: owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Palmer
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 5:58 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Greg,
There are no ribs in the wing tanks they just form a D box
Regards
Keith D. Palmer
~ Rotary Pulse Engines ~
(Lite weight alternative to combustion Engines for Hybrids )
(including aircraft)
~~~~~~~~~~~~
RPE-Skunkworx
P.O.Box 50512
Musgrave Road, 4062.
Durban.
KZN. – S.A.
LL Tel +27 (0)31 708 1428
Mobile +27 (0)82 832 5533
e-mail - RPE_Skunkworx(at)mweb.co.za (RPE_Skunkworx(at)mweb.co.za)
From: owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GREGSMI(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:04 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
One other problem, the bladders may require you to remove the ribs in the tank. This is a structural issue. The ribs are required to spread the load to the spar. Without them, the end close out rib will take too much shear load, and we already know the end ribs will leak, the additional load will cause issues.
Greg
In a message dated 1/30/2014 9:30:34 A.M. Central Standard Time, bernard.wilder2(at)gmail.com writes:
| Quote: |
Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder (you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)> wrote:
I’ve just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn’t seem too bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet attached). In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a drawing, if possible.
Price: € 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests and/or questions.
Best regards,
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Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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Hi Greg,
I don’t have any ribs in my tanks except the close-outs at each end. Where these later additions?
Barry
From: GREGSMI(at)aol.com (GREGSMI(at)aol.com)
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:03 PM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
One other problem, the bladders may require you to remove the ribs in the tank. This is a structural issue. The ribs are required to spread the load to the spar. Without them, the end close out rib will take too much shear load, and we already know the end ribs will leak, the additional load will cause issues.
Greg
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We used to put much long bladders into our glider wings for water ballast which was very easy, with flexible bladders you don’t need a vent because they collapse as they empty . No Problem.
Keith
From: owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Wilder
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:30 PM
To: Pulsar Net
Subject: Re: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder (you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)> wrote:
I’ve just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn’t seem too bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet attached). In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a drawing, if possible.
Price: € 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests and/or questions.
Best regards,
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Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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If a vent is needed, I would think a simple small bore tube rising from the fuel cap and bent 90 degrees forward into the airflow would be sufficient.
Barry
From: Keith Palmer (kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za)
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 9:11 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
We used to put much long bladders into our glider wings for water ballast which was very easy, with flexible bladders you don’t need a vent because they collapse as they empty . No Problem.
Keith
From: owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Wilder
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:30 PM
To: Pulsar Net
Subject: Re: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder (you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)> wrote:
I’ve just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn’t seem too bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet attached). In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a drawing, if possible.
Price: € 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests and/or questions.
Best regards,
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Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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No Problem – we could dump 100 liters of water in a minute or two without any vent.
K’d
From: owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry J Edwards
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 11:15 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
If a vent is needed, I would think a simple small bore tube rising from the fuel cap and bent 90 degrees forward into the airflow would be sufficient.
Barry
From: Keith Palmer (kdpalmer(at)mweb.co.za)
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 9:11 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
We used to put much long bladders into our glider wings for water ballast which was very easy, with flexible bladders you don’t need a vent because they collapse as they empty . No Problem.
Keith
From: owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Wilder
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:30 PM
To: Pulsar Net
Subject: Re: Fw: R: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder (you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)> wrote:
I’ve just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn’t seem too bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet attached). In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a drawing, if possible.
Price: € 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests and/or questions.
Best regards,
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Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com (barry(at)connisbeare.com)]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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Do you have ribs in the tank?? I don't. They are not required if the
wing leading edge structure is sized for it.
Sonja
On 1/30/14, GREGSMI(at)aol.com <GREGSMI(at)aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | One other problem, the bladders may require you to remove the ribs in the
tank. This is a structural issue. The ribs are required to spread the load
to the spar. Without them, the end close out rib will take too much shear
load, and we already know the end ribs will leak, the additional load will
cause issues.
Greg
In a message dated 1/30/2014 9:30:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,
bernard.wilder2(at)gmail.com writes:
Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company
in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation
at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing
was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder
(you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <_barry(at)connisbeare.com_
(mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com) > wrote:
I've just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering
bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn't seem
too
bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we
might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your
aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet
attached).
In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a
drawing, if possible.
Price: EURO 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is
our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer
satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests
and/or
questions.
Best regards,
Follow us on
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(mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com) ]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar
XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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No ribs in my tank - XP #390.
Bernie Wilder
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Sonja Englert <paqs345(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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Do you have ribs in the tank?? I don't. They are not required if the
wing leading edge structure is sized for it.
Sonja
On 1/30/14, GREGSMI(at)aol.com <GREGSMI(at)aol.com> wrote:
> One other problem, the bladders may require you to remove the ribs in the
> tank. This is a structural issue. The ribs are required to spread the load
> to the spar. Without them, the end close out rib will take too much shear
> load, and we already know the end ribs will leak, the additional load will
>
> cause issues.
>
> Greg
> In a message dated 1/30/2014 9:30:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> bernard.wilder2(at)gmail.com writes:
> Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company
> in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation
>
> at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing
>
> was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder
> (you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
> Bernie Wilder
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <_barry(at)connisbeare.com_
> (mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com) > wrote:
>
> I've just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering
> bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn't seem
> too
> bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we
> might get an even better price.
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
> Barry
> G-XPXP UK
>
> OFFER 4946
> - Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your
> aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet
> attached).
> In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a
> drawing, if possible.
> Price: EURO 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
> General Terms & Conditions
> Delivery: 45 days from order
> Transport: not included
> Payment: before shipment
> For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is
> our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer
> satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests
> and/or
> questions.
> Best regards,
>
> Follow us on
> (http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=197375985&trk=hb_tab_pro_top)
> (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Merin-srl/199334633477083?ref=hl)
> (https://twitter.com/MERINsrl)
>
> Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:_barry(at)connisbeare.com_
> (mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com) ]
> Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
> A: Tania Macaluso
> Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
>
>
> Good morning,
>
> Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar
> XP please?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Barry Edwards
>
> Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
>
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Well, apparently ribs were only used in tanks on the 914 model and maybe Skystar used them. Would like to hear from those owners. It's really too bad we do not have the the factory documentation for things like this. Obviously, if there are no ribs then bladders will work well in the leading edge. I remember talking to a vendor at Oshkosh several years ago about bladders for another airplane.
I would still follow the sealing with Jeffco and PRC. One person has suggested using 1.7 oz. glass in the Jeffco to reduce the possibility of cracking.
When I talked to the guy at Oshkosh, he was wanting a mold or tank to work with to make the bladders. I think if we could give him the end ribs and length, he could take it from there.
Greg
In a message dated 1/31/2014 9:53:15 A.M. Central Standard Time, paqs345(at)gmail.com writes:
| Quote: | --> Pulsar-List message posted by: Sonja Englert <paqs345(at)gmail.com>
Do you have ribs in the tank?? I don't. They are not required if the
wing leading edge structure is sized for it.
Sonja
On 1/30/14, GREGSMI(at)aol.com <GREGSMI(at)aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | One other problem, the bladders may require you to remove the ribs in the
tank. This is a structural issue. The ribs are required to spread the load
to the spar. Without them, the end close out rib will take too much shear
load, and we already know the end ribs will leak, the additional load will
cause issues.
Greg
In a message dated 1/30/2014 9:30:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,
bernard.wilder2(at)gmail.com writes:
Before I recoated my fuel cells I explored bladders. There is a company
in Wisc. that makes bladders. Initial estimate was $500.00. Installation
at building time would have been easy. Installation into a completed wing
was complicated - lining up the fill hole, vent, supporting the bladder
(you can't just stick it in),,,,etc.
Bernie Wilder
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry J Edwards <_barry(at)connisbeare.com_
(mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com) > wrote:
I've just had the following back from Merin in Italy. They are offering
bladder style tanks for the XP at 1800 Euros per pair. That doesn't seem
too
bad to me and maybe if a couple more folks in the UK were interested we
might get an even better price.
Thoughts anyone?
Barry
G-XPXP UK
OFFER 4946
- Safety fuel tank, anti-crash and anti-explosion for your
aircraft Pulsar XP, manufactured according our standard (find leaflet
attached).
In order to be certain of your specific need, we would appreciate a
drawing, if possible.
Price: EURO 1.800,00 (LH + RH wing tanks)
General Terms & Conditions
Delivery: 45 days from order
Transport: not included
Payment: before shipment
For any further info, please do not hesitate to contact us personally. Is
our pleasure to improve not only our services but also customer
satisfaction, which we cannot do without your help, observations, requests
and/or
questions.
Best regards,
Follow us on
(http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=197375985&trk=hb_tab_pro_top)
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Da: Barry J Edwards [mailto:_barry(at)connisbeare.com_
(mailto:barry(at)connisbeare.com) ]
Inviato: giovedì 30 gennaio 2014 10:15
A: Tania Macaluso
Oggetto: Pulsar XP bladder fuel tanks
Good morning,
Could you let me know the cost of your bladder fuel tanks for the Pulsar
XP please?
Thank you,
Barry Edwards
Pulsar XP G-XPXP UK.
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