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 Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: Rare Placard |
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How about the DC-10 in Detroit I think, many years ago. #1 as I recall, got the head of Maintenance nicknamed, “Forklift” but didn’t stop him, became chief pilot for Frank Lorenzo and later CEO of Value Jet.
Don
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: Rare Placard |
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Good Evening Don,
I do not recall the accident in Detroit, but I do remember the AAL DC-10 that had an engine fall off during a takeoff at Chicago's O'Hare airport.
That was eventually traced to faulty maintenance when a forklift was used to replace an engine and pylon as one piece. A slip up occurred and the accident occurred later. It is my understanding that the supervisor who was responsible for the operation committed suicide. Anyone know otherwise?
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
PS I feel they should have placed the blame at least partially on the FAA as AAL was complying with a completely unnecessary AD that required the removal and inspection of the pylon mounting bolts.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject: Rare Placard |
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Old Bob
You may be correct, I know it was in the Detroit area, might have been Chicago.
I had always been told it was Joe Leonard, hence the name “Forklift” or “Forklift Joe”, Lorenzo brought him to Eastern as Chief Pilot, later he went to Value Jet/ Air Tran, as President/CEO at the time I was flying the L-1011, and talking to a Lockheed Tec/Rep who laughed at how Douglas used I think he said three half inch bolts or something like that to secure that rather large engine compared to Lockheed with their RB-211 engines using double that number and much larger bolts. But it didn’t stop anyone with the right connections, Value Jet had numerous ‘incidents’ then a major accident killing everyone on board in FL. that was a joke in the way it was handled, just changed the name and it was business as usual.
Think it was an American DC-10 Capt. that had numerous violations as he refused to keep the aircraft under 200 knots close to the airport and low, but after that incident with the DC-10 crash all violation were dropped. With the increased speed, the aircraft could have maintained control, but not at the slower speed.
Funny how these thing never come out in the newspaper.
Don
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Good Evening Don,
I do not recall the accident in Detroit, but I do remember the AAL DC-10 that had an engine fall off during a takeoff at Chicago's O'Hare airport.
That was eventually traced to faulty maintenance when a forklift was used to replace an engine and pylon as one piece. A slip up occurred and the accident occurred later. It is my understanding that the supervisor who was responsible for the operation committed suicide. Anyone know otherwise?
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
PS I feel they should have placed the blame at least partially on the FAA as AAL was complying with a completely unnecessary AD that required the removal and inspection of the pylon mounting bolts.
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It was Chicago ORD
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