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gengrumpy

Joined: 07 May 2013
Posts: 131
Location: Tullahoma, TN

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:01 am Post subject: Van's SBs

Anyone on the net aware of the extent of horizontal stab spar and elevator attachment points cracks?



Not exactly looking forward to doing those SBs if the incidence rate has been really low…..



grumpy

geezer02(at)windstream.ne
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:27 am Post subject: Van's SBs

I have completed the inspection and didn't find any cracks. Be aware that SB 14-02-03 was superseded by SB 14-02-05. recommended that it not be done as a preventative maintenance.

Louis RV-8 N18LD



---- Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote: 

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 Anyone on the net aware of the extent of horizontal stab spar and elevator attachment points cracks?

 

 Not exactly looking forward to doing those SBs if the incidence rate has been really lowâ€¦..

 

 grumpy

alan(at)airweigh.com.au
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:27 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

Hi Ya Grumpy,



All you have to do is remove the fairing at the tailplane to inspect the stab main spar area.  The elevators/rudder inspection does not require removal of anything.



If no cracks are found then you must do nothing except inspect each year.  If cracks are found then the rectification must be made.



Be sure to check the Jam Nuts on the rod ends. ( seems that loose jam nuts can cause the problem)



Cheers .... Alan.        RV8 Flying in Australia.



On 21/02/2014, at 4:00 AM, Miller John wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Anyone on the net aware of the extent of horizontal stab spar and elevator attachment points cracks?

 

 Not exactly looking forward to doing those SBs if the incidence rate has been really low…..

 

 grumpy

gengrumpy

Joined: 07 May 2013
Posts: 131
Location: Tullahoma, TN

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:50 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

Thanks, Louis.

Got 05 downloaded today after I got back home.

grumpy

On Feb 20, 2014, at 11:27 AM, geezer02(at)windstream.net wrote:

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 I have completed the inspection and didn't find any cracks. Be aware that SB 14-02-03 was superseded by SB 14-02-05. recommended that it not be done as a preventative maintenance.

 Louis RV-8 N18LD

 ---- Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote: 

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> Anyone on the net aware of the extent of horizontal stab spar and elevator attachment points cracks?

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> Not exactly looking forward to doing those SBs if the incidence rate has been really low…..

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> grumpy

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gengrumpy

Joined: 07 May 2013
Posts: 131
Location: Tullahoma, TN

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:20 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

Thanks, Alan.

I was wondering how many planes have turned up with cracks is either place.

grumpy

On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alan Searle <alan(at)airweigh.com.au> wrote:

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 Hi Ya Grumpy,

 All you have to do is remove the fairing at the tailplane to inspect the stab main spar area.  The elevators/rudder inspection does not require removal of anything.

 If no cracks are found then you must do nothing except inspect each year.  If cracks are found then the rectification must be made.

 Be sure to check the Jam Nuts on the rod ends. ( seems that loose jam nuts can cause the problem)

 Cheers .... Alan.        RV8 Flying in Australia.

 On 21/02/2014, at 4:00 AM, Miller John wrote:

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> Anyone on the net aware of the extent of horizontal stab spar and elevator attachment points cracks?

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> Not exactly looking forward to doing those SBs if the incidence rate has been really low…..

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> grumpy

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edwclg

Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Posts: 19

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:23 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

I just finished doing both insp's on the elevator and horz stab and found nothing wrong.



I look at the back end carefully every year as I had a Swift that was known for cracks back there.

 

It would be nice to have an account of how many a/c have been insp vs how many have found cracks and what type of operating environment they have been in.



Any thoughts how we could do that?

 

Ed Clegg



On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)> wrote:

 [quote]--> RV8-List message posted by: Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)>

 

 Thanks, Louis.

 

 Got 05 downloaded today after I got back home.

 

 grumpy

 

 On Feb 20, 2014, at 11:27 AM, geezer02(at)windstream.net (geezer02(at)windstream.net) wrote:

 

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 > I have completed the inspection and didn't find any cracks. Be aware that SB 14-02-03 was superseded by SB 14-02-05. recommended that it not be done as a preventative maintenance.

 > Louis RV-8 N18LD

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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:17 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

Just inspected my circa 1994 RV-6 for both the stab spar and elevator spar cracks per the respective SB's and found nothing questionable.  Whew.

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Matt Dralle
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:17 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

Just inspected my circa 1994 RV-6 for both the stab spar and elevator spar cracks per the respective SB's and found nothing questionable.  Whew.

-

Matt Dralle



RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"

http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log

http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log

http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel

Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...



RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"

http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log

Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode

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gengrumpy

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Location: Tullahoma, TN

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

Any idea how many planes with cracks have been found to date?



grumpy



On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 

 Just inspected my circa 1994 RV-6 for both the stab spar and elevator spar cracks per the respective SB's and found nothing questionable.  Whew.

 

 

 -

 Matt Dralle

 

 RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"

 http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log

 http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log

 http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel

 Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...

 

 RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"

 http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log

 Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode

alan(at)airweigh.com.au
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:44 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

Roughly 10% of those reporting their inspection.



AKS

On 26/02/2014, at 12:33 PM, Miller John wrote:



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 Any idea how many planes with cracks have been found to date?

 

 grumpy

 

 On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:

 

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> Just inspected my circa 1994 RV-6 for both the stab spar and elevator spar cracks per the respective SB's and found nothing questionable.  Whew.

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> Matt Dralle

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> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"

> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log

> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log

> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel

> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...

> 

> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"

> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log

> Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode 

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gengrumpy

Joined: 07 May 2013
Posts: 131
Location: Tullahoma, TN

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:48 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

Are the numbers being reported to Van’s and will Van’s report the numbers found?



JM



On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:43 PM, Alan Searle <alan(at)airweigh.com.au> wrote:



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 Roughly 10% of those reporting their inspection.

 

 AKS

 

 

 On 26/02/2014, at 12:33 PM, Miller John wrote:

 

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> Any idea how many planes with cracks have been found to date?

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> grumpy

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> On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:

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>> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"

>> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log

>> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log

>> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel

>> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...

>> 

>> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"

>> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log

>> Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode 

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Matt Dralle
Site Admin

Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 26320
Location: Livermore CA USA

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:07 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

But that's probably a pretty high percentage of "cracks found" because its more likely that someone finding a crack would report it to Van's than someone not finding a crack.  10% seems crazy high especially considering that it took this long to "discover".

Seems like everyone should report their findings to Van's good or bad so that their stats are realistic.

Just send them to "support(at)vansaircraft".  Included my N number and Serial number.

Matt Dralle

At 06:43 PM 2/25/2014 Tuesday, Alan Searle wrote:

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Roughly 10% of those reporting their inspection.

AKS

On 26/02/2014, at 12:33 PM, Miller John wrote:

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> Any idea how many planes with cracks have been found to date?

> 

> grumpy

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> On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:

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>> Just inspected my circa 1994 RV-6 for both the stab spar and elevator spar cracks per the respective SB's and found nothing questionable.  Whew.

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>> Matt Dralle

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Matt Dralle
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Location: Livermore CA USA

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:07 pm Post subject: Van's SBs

But that's probably a pretty high percentage of "cracks found" because its more likely that someone finding a crack would report it to Van's than someone not finding a crack.  10% seems crazy high especially considering that it took this long to "discover".

Seems like everyone should report their findings to Van's good or bad so that their stats are realistic.

Just send them to "support(at)vansaircraft".  Included my N number and Serial number.

Matt Dralle

At 06:43 PM 2/25/2014 Tuesday, Alan Searle wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

Roughly 10% of those reporting their inspection.

AKS

On 26/02/2014, at 12:33 PM, Miller John wrote:

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> Any idea how many planes with cracks have been found to date?

> 

> grumpy

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> On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:

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>> Just inspected my circa 1994 RV-6 for both the stab spar and elevator spar cracks per the respective SB's and found nothing questionable.  Whew.

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>> Matt Dralle

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Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550

925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email

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