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haveblue1(at)mac.com
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:31 am Post subject: Engines

Gary,

Based upon your experience with the F-16, who makes better jet engines, Pratt & Whitney or GE? I'm assuming here that you have experience with both.

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Bruce Smith



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cynamonb

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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:34 pm Post subject: Engines

Planning an engine upgrade?

  

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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:48 pm Post subject: Engines

Nah, my dad worked at P&W back in the good old days. Worked on the JT11-D (J58) program. Was talking with another aviation enthusiast the other day who had a few disparaging things to say about P&W. So, knowing that Gary worked on the F-16 program, I thought I'd ask his opinion. Just curious.

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Gary,

Based upon your experience with the F-16, who makes better jet engines, Pratt & Whitney or GE? I'm assuming here that you have experience with both.

Best,

Bruce Smith



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george(at)oilhelp.com
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:49 pm Post subject: Engines

Bruce, if you are asking about reliability and the maintenance of them, I always liked working with the P&W engines versus the GE and Rolls Royce engines.  I have years of experience with all 3 manufactures starting with the J57 that first powered the F-100.

George



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On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:47 PM, "L. Bruce Smith" <haveblue1(at)mac.com (haveblue1(at)mac.com)> wrote:

[quote]Nah, my dad worked at P&W back in the good old days. Worked on the JT11-D (J58) program. Was talking with another aviation enthusiast the other day who had a few disparaging things to say about P&W. So, knowing that Gary worked on the F-16 program, I thought I'd ask his opinion. Just curious.

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Gary,

Based upon your experience with the F-16, who makes better jet engines, Pratt & Whitney or GE? I'm assuming here that you have experience with both.

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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:59 pm Post subject: Engines

Well, since I worked the P&W, I'm partial to P&W. The guys on the other side of the office working GE, liked GE. 

Low altitudes, the P&W out performed the GE due to the larger inlet. GE had smaller inlets and less spillage drag at altitude making it a bit faster. 

I have 12 hours in an F-16 including 3 hrs in air-to-air combat. We did 9gs. I flew 8 point rolls and terrain following through the Sierras in the Isabella MOA at 400 AGL. 

It was a great experience. 



Gary

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On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:30 AM, "L. Bruce Smith" <haveblue1(at)mac.com (haveblue1(at)mac.com)> wrote:

[quote]Gary,

Based upon your experience with the F-16, who makes better jet engines, Pratt & Whitney or GE? I'm assuming here that you have experience with both.

Best,

Bruce Smith



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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:54 am Post subject: Engines

Sounds like some interesting experiences.  You're a luck dog!  Not too many non military folks get fighter jet time.  



Kevin



On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:59 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]Well, since I worked the P&W, I'm partial to P&W. The guys on the other side of the office working GE, liked GE. 

Low altitudes, the P&W out performed the GE due to the larger inlet. GE had smaller inlets and less spillage drag at altitude making it a bit faster. 

I have 12 hours in an F-16 including 3 hrs in air-to-air combat. We did 9gs. I flew 8 point rolls and terrain following through the Sierras in the Isabella MOA at 400 AGL. 

It was a great experience. 



Gary

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Based upon your experience with the F-16, who makes better jet engines, Pratt & Whitney or GE? I'm assuming here that you have experience with both.

Best,

Bruce Smith



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rcmutz

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:13 am Post subject: Engines

Hmmm... 9's..... That explains it!  



Richard



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On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:03 AM, "Gary L Vogt" <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]Well, since I worked the P&W, I'm partial to P&W. The guys on the other side of the office working GE, liked GE. 

Low altitudes, the P&W out performed the GE due to the larger inlet. GE had smaller inlets and less spillage drag at altitude making it a bit faster. 

I have 12 hours in an F-16 including 3 hrs in air-to-air combat. We did 9gs. I flew 8 point rolls and terrain following through the Sierras in the Isabella MOA at 400 AGL. 

It was a great experience. 



Gary

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On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:30 AM, "L. Bruce Smith" <haveblue1(at)mac.com (haveblue1(at)mac.com)> wrote:

[quote]Gary,

Based upon your experience with the F-16, who makes better jet engines, Pratt & Whitney or GE? I'm assuming here that you have experience with both.

Best,

Bruce Smith



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