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 Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:52 pm Post subject: Fwd: weird hole |
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Hello,
Interesting and "colourful" opinions.
My question was motivated by the fact that switches with this characteristic are pretty frequent (mouser, digikey, jameco, etc.).
Obviously I thought of drilling a small hole and enlarging it to fit the required dimensions, as suggested. At this point of my project, I have learnt to make holes of any size, any shape. And a few of them even end up the size and shape as I wanted!
It's true that making these holes would be a bit of a pain, but not as much as the holes I made for the Hartwell latches on my wing lockers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evD30x62UwU
So, in case I find the switch I want, this will not stop me.
Someone suggested a toggle switch.
Thanks, but I think they can hurt in case of an accident (probably the reason why cars don't have toggle switches on the panel since what, the fifties?).
I found that Carling makes some nice ones (Aveo sells them with custom design), but I think they are too big - the hole is close to 2' tall.
Folks, thanks for the comments. Now back to building (or flying).
Cheers
Carlos
CH601-HD, CH650 canopy, maybe a Corvair engine?
Dynon D180? Choosing is half the fun!
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From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52(at)gmail.com (carlossa52(at)gmail.com)>
Date: 11 March 2014 19:53
Subject: weird hole
To: "zenith-list(at)matronics.com (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)" <zenith-list(at)matronics.com (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)>
Hello,
Does anyone know how to drill a hole as indicated in this pdf?
http://switches-connectors-custom.cwind.com/Asset/GRB213B03BB.pdf
Is there a special tool? Just curious...
Thanks
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
inspection this summer
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:41 pm Post subject: Fwd: weird hole |
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I suggested a standard toggle switch. If I impact my panel getting poked by a toggle will be the least of my worries 
A few things I don't like about some of the newer, prettier switches:
1. I find them to be more fragile that the classic toggles
2. They are manufacturer-specific. If you break one in 10 years (see item 1) you may have a hard time finding a replacement.
3. Depending on what the switch operates I like the fact that a standard toggle has a more positive action. And if it is really important I can put a guard on it. And if it is really really important I can put a spring-loaded cover over it.
4. standard toggles are available with many different switching circuits: single/double poll, single/double throw, center off, momentary or not.
-- Craig
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Carlos Sa <carlossa52(at)gmail.com (carlossa52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] Hello,
Interesting and "colourful" opinions.
My question was motivated by the fact that switches with this characteristic are pretty frequent (mouser, digikey, jameco, etc.).
Obviously I thought of drilling a small hole and enlarging it to fit the required dimensions, as suggested. At this point of my project, I have learnt to make holes of any size, any shape. And a few of them even end up the size and shape as I wanted!
It's true that making these holes would be a bit of a pain, but not as much as the holes I made for the Hartwell latches on my wing lockers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evD30x62UwU
So, in case I find the switch I want, this will not stop me.
Someone suggested a toggle switch.
Thanks, but I think they can hurt in case of an accident (probably the reason why cars don't have toggle switches on the panel since what, the fifties?).
I found that Carling makes some nice ones (Aveo sells them with custom design), but I think they are too big - the hole is close to 2' tall.
Folks, thanks for the comments. Now back to building (or flying).
Cheers
Carlos
CH601-HD, CH650 canopy, maybe a Corvair engine?
Dynon D180? Choosing is half the fun!
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From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52(at)gmail.com (carlossa52(at)gmail.com)>
Date: 11 March 2014 19:53
Subject: weird hole
To: "zenith-list(at)matronics.com (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)" <zenith-list(at)matronics.com (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)>
Hello,
Does anyone know how to drill a hole as indicated in this pdf?
http://switches-connectors-custom.cwind.com/Asset/GRB213B03BB.pdf
Is there a special tool? Just curious...
Thanks
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
inspection this summer
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BARRY CHECK 6
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:07 pm Post subject: Fwd: weird hole |
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GOOD POINT Craig!Better than GOOD... EXCELLENT!
Carlos's logic on this point just does not make sense. He better do away with the STICK or the YOKE. After all they are sitting there right in front of your chest! Mater of fact all planes with toggle switches should be grounded.
And you wonder why the government wants to take away our GA privileges.
Barry
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014, Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com (craig(at)craigandjean.com)> wrote:
[quote]I suggested a standard toggle switch. If I impact my panel getting poked by a toggle will be the least of my worries
A few things I don't like about some of the newer, prettier switches:
1. I find them to be more fragile that the classic toggles
2. They are manufacturer-specific. If you break one in 10 years (see item 1) you may have a hard time finding a replacement.
3. Depending on what the switch operates I like the fact that a standard toggle has a more positive action. And if it is really important I can put a guard on it. And if it is really really important I can put a spring-loaded cover over it.
4. standard toggles are available with many different switching circuits: single/double poll, single/double throw, center off, momentary or not.
-- Craig
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Carlos Sa <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carlossa52(at)gmail.com');]carlossa52(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
| Quote: | Hello,
Interesting and "colourful" opinions.
My question was motivated by the fact that switches with this characteristic are pretty frequent (mouser, digikey, jameco, etc.).
Obviously I thought of drilling a small hole and enlarging it to fit the required dimensions, as suggested. At this point of my project, I have learnt to make holes of any size, any shape. And a few of them even end up the size and shape as I wanted!
It's true that making these holes would be a bit of a pain, but not as much as the holes I made for the Hartwell latches on my wing lockers.
hartwell latch operation
So, in case I find the switch I want, this will not stop me.
Someone suggested a toggle switch.
Thanks, but I think they can hurt in case of an accident (probably the reason why cars don't have toggle switches on the panel since what, the fifties?).
I found that Carling makes some nice ones (Aveo sells them with custom design), but I think they are too big - the hole is close to 2' tall.
Folks, thanks for the comments. Now back to building (or flying).
Cheers
Carlos
CH601-HD, CH650 canopy, maybe a Corvair engine?
Dynon D180? Choosing is half the fun!
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From: Carlos Sa <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carlossa52(at)gmail.com');]carlossa52(at)gmail.com[/url]>
Date: 11 March 2014 19:53
Subject: weird hole
To: "[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zenith-list(at)matronics.com');]zenith-list(at)matronics.com[/url]" <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zenith-list(at)matronics.com');]zenith-list(at)matronics.com[/url]>
Hello,
Does anyone know how to drill a hole as indicated in this pdf?
http://switches-connectors-custom.cwind.com/Asset/GRB213B03BB.pdf
Is there a special tool? Just curious...
Thanks
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
inspection this summer
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject: Fwd: weird hole |
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Hi Carlos,
Many years ago I had the opportunity to sit in a real Mig 21. The
panels of switches and the few instruments were very crude but
functional. There were lots of those bat handled toggle switches.
My plane has a few of those too.
Paul.
On 3/12/2014 4:51 PM, Carlos Sa wrote:
| Quote: | nteresting and "colourful" opinions.
My question was motivated by the fact that switches with this
characteristic are pretty frequent (mouser, digikey, jameco, etc.).
Obviously I thought of drilling a small hole and enlarging it to fit
the required dimensions, as suggested. At this point of my project, I
have learnt to make holes of any size, any shape. And a few of them
even end up the size and shape as I wanted!
It's true that making these holes would be a bit of a pain, but not as
much as the holes I made for the Hartwell latches on my wing lockers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evD30x62UwU
So, in case I find the switch I want, this will not stop me.
Someone suggested a toggle switch.
Thanks, but I think they can hurt in case of an accident (probably the
reason why cars don't have toggle switches on the panel since what,
the fifties?).
I found that Carling makes some nice ones (Aveo sells them with custom
design), but I think they are too big - the hole is close to 2' tall.
Folks, thanks for the comments. Now back to building (or flying).
Cheers
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steve.freeman(at)syntaxds
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:26 pm Post subject: Fwd: weird hole |
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I don’t want to be the list police…
But personal attacks are really not needed on this list.
<< Carlos's logic on this point just does not make sense… And you wonder why the government wants to take away our GA privileges.>>
This is totally uncalled for.
It never ceases to amaze which topics garner the most responses.
Steve Freeman
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of FLYaDIVE
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Fwd: weird hole
GOOD POINT Craig!
Better than GOOD... EXCELLENT!
Carlos's logic on this point just does not make sense. He better do away with the STICK or the YOKE. After all they are sitting there right in front of your chest! Mater of fact all planes with toggle switches should be grounded.
And you wonder why the government wants to take away our GA privileges.
Barry
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014, Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com (craig(at)craigandjean.com)> wrote:
I suggested a standard toggle switch. If I impact my panel getting poked by a toggle will be the least of my worries
A few things I don't like about some of the newer, prettier switches:
1. I find them to be more fragile that the classic toggles
2. They are manufacturer-specific. If you break one in 10 years (see item 1) you may have a hard time finding a replacement.
3. Depending on what the switch operates I like the fact that a standard toggle has a more positive action. And if it is really important I can put a guard on it. And if it is really really important I can put a spring-loaded cover over it.
4. standard toggles are available with many different switching circuits: single/double poll, single/double throw, center off, momentary or not.
-- Craig
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Carlos Sa <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'carlossa52(at)gmail.com\');]carlossa52(at)gmail.com[/url]> wrote:
Hello,
Interesting and "colourful" opinions.
My question was motivated by the fact that switches with this characteristic are pretty frequent (mouser, digikey, jameco, etc.).
Obviously I thought of drilling a small hole and enlarging it to fit the required dimensions, as suggested. At this point of my project, I have learnt to make holes of any size, any shape. And a few of them even end up the size and shape as I wanted!
It's true that making these holes would be a bit of a pain, but not as much as the holes I made for the Hartwell latches on my wing lockers.
hartwell latch operation
So, in case I find the switch I want, this will not stop me.
Someone suggested a toggle switch.
Thanks, but I think they can hurt in case of an accident (probably the reason why cars don't have toggle switches on the panel since what, the fifties?).
I found that Carling makes some nice ones (Aveo sells them with custom design), but I think they are too big - the hole is close to 2' tall.
Folks, thanks for the comments. Now back to building (or flying).
Cheers
Carlos
CH601-HD, CH650 canopy, maybe a Corvair engine?
Dynon D180? Choosing is half the fun!
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From: Carlos Sa <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'carlossa52(at)gmail.com\');]carlossa52(at)gmail.com[/url]>
Date: 11 March 2014 19:53
Subject: weird hole
To: "[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'zenith-list(at)matronics.com\');]zenith-list(at)matronics.com[/url]" <[url=javascript:_e(%7B%7D,\'cvml\',\'zenith-list(at)matronics.com\');]zenith-list(at)matronics.com[/url]>
Hello,
Does anyone know how to drill a hole as indicated in this pdf?
http://switches-connectors-custom.cwind.com/Asset/GRB213B03BB.pdf
Is there a special tool? Just curious...
Thanks
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
inspection this summer
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The list I remember so well is back...
Hey guys!
Sabrina
(21 round hole toggle switches.)
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:57 am Post subject: Fwd: weird hole |
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Hi Sabrina,
How are you and your airplane doing?
Paul
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Hey Paul,
Great! My qualifying orals are tentatively set for December of this year. Normally, they take place the summer before your G3 or G4 year. I am a G1.
I took four classes last semester, three A+ and my highest average of the four in the one (AMOII) that does not hand out A+s. Two awards: top female G1 in AdStatMech and 'best in the class' in QFT I.
This semester I have three one-on-one classes, a teaching class and QFT II.
I tried to get my plane out of the snow and slush in early December but decided to just run it up instead. I am told it is behind 30' of snow right now. I fly to Chicago tomorrow to check it out and to vote on Tuesday.
How are you doing?
Sabrina
P.S. Just this morning, I lucked out and drew my same really cool dorm room again for this summer.
P.P.S. I gave my first 'paid' speech a couple weeks back: http://sabrinaaerospace.com/index.php?p=1_13
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Hi Sabrina,
I won't pretend I understand all those apparently random combinations of
letters, but it sounds like you are still staying ahead of the sheriff
and also beating all the competition to a pulp. I am delighted to hear
you are doing well and wish you the best.
I am doing OK. My Zodiac is finished with phase I. I did all the test
flying myself. Indeed the plane has about 50 hours on it and nobody but
me has ever flown it for even a few seconds. I am trying to get excited
about cross country flying but I seem to lack motivation. The 100
dollar hamburger sounds good but it doesn't really meet my dietary
limits. I am looking forward to a time when the bill in congress makes
flying anything with pistons legal without needing a medical from the
FAA tyrants. I don't really need a different plane but I might get a
complex high performance one to fly around just because I can. (I did
both complex and high performance transitions several decades ago when
it was still possible I might be a professional pilot.)
I 'm looking forward to the day when you run for president.
Paul
Camas, WA
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Hey Paul,
Great! My qualifying orals are tentatively set for December of this year. Normally, they take place the summer before your G3 or G4 year. I am a G1.
I took four classes last semester, three A+ and my highest average of the four in the one (AMOII) that does not hand out A+s. Two awards: top female G1 in AdStatMech and 'best in the class' in QFT I.
This semester I have three one-on-one classes, a teaching class and QFT II.
I tried to get my plane out of the snow and slush in early December but decided to just run it up instead. I am told it is behind 30' of snow right now. I fly to Chicago tomorrow to check it out and to vote on Tuesday.
How are you doing?
Sabrina
P.S. Just this morning, I lucked out and drew my same really cool dorm room again for this summer.
P.P.S. I gave my first 'paid' speech a couple weeks back: http://sabrinaaerospace.com/index.php?p=1_13
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