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Been watching and reading. Never flown a firefly but i have a bunch of the rest. Had an original firestar with a 447. Nice flyer but in the bumps it will wear you out. Flew a couple of the marks and was impressed. My love goes to the slingshot although I would not mind having a Kobra. My slingshot started with a 582 which really was plenty of power. Went to a 912/80hp and am so happy. Constant climb factor. Best thing about slingshot it lands almost exactly where you want without excessive glide. Bad fuel filter put me down in field with less than two hundred ft roll. No problem. Not for the squeemish or faint of heart to fly. Really sensitive but cuts through the bumps and lumps like a knife. Cruises at 75-95 if you wish. Enough back seat for smallish person or full camping gear plus ten gals of gas. Made a mistake in putting two five gal tanks in back instead of custom fifteen. No complaints or problems. Gotta get them custom made or buy used now. They are a handfull on the ground with torque and P factor but not to hard to overcome. I really love the three gals an hour at 85 mph!!! Dont need vortex generators cause you really DONT want to float this one in. When it drops its tail and ready to flair, you better be really close to ground. Just wanted to add to the mix. Ted Cowan slingshot 912 zoom zoom
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1. 07:22 AM - q (kinne russ)
2. 09:13 AM - Re: Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures (chris davis)
3. 09:17 AM - Re: q (Dennis Rowe)
4. 12:45 PM - Re: q (Richard Girard)
5. 01:01 PM - Re: q (Robert Laird)
6. 02:28 PM - Re: q (Arizona Flyer)
7. 06:29 PM - Re: Re: q (Dennis Rowe)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 07:22:31 AM PST US
From: kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com>
Subject: q
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Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or bad experience
with the various suppliers?
Thanx, Russ K
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Time: 09:13:19 AM PST US
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Post Your Kolb Pictures
Tony- I was considering a 503 on my Firefly and was discouraged by Kolb a
s it would take considerable frame stengthing to make the Firefly able to s
tand the extra power and vibration from the 503 . just an aside to consider
. Chris=0A=0A=0A-=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabl
ed from crash building Firefly=0AOn Monday, April 14, 2014 10:41 PM, George
Alexander <gtalexander(at)att.net> wrote:=0A =0A--> Kolb-List message posted
by: "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net>=0A>=0A>=0A>Rick Lewis wrote:
=0A>> It would be nice to get lots of pictures of many kolbs planes but doe
sn't seem possible with out multiple searches.- really- is a shame....
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Time: 09:17:48 AM PST US
From: Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: q
John Gilpin a fellow Kolb lister sells VGs, I've heard good things about his.
Otherwise I have no experience with them.
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:22 AM, kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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> Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
> Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or bad experience
with the various suppliers?
> Thanx, Russ K
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 12:45:15 PM PST US
Subject: Re: q
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Russ, I bought VG's from Free Bird Innovations on eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Generators-Experimental-Aircraft-Ultralight-/200746539447?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item2ebd6d19b7&vxp=mtr
Good service, can't say if they're any worse or better than others.
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net>wrote:
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> John Gilpin a fellow Kolb lister sells VGs, I've heard good things about
> his.
> Otherwise I have no experience with them.
>
> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:22 AM, kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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>> List
>> Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
>> Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or bad
> experience with the various suppliers?
>> Thanx, Russ K
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 01:01:15 PM PST US
Subject: Re: q
From: Robert Laird <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>
No guarantee the URLs are still valid, but this is my source list for VGs:
- STOLSpeed <http://www.stolspeed.com/>
- Air Wave <http://www.sportlite103.com/html/vortex_generators.html> and Air
Wave <http://flyfbi.com/html/vortex_generators.html> and
AirWave<http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Generators-Experimental-Aircraft-Ultralight-/200746539447?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item2ebd6d19b7&vxp=mtr>
- home-made <http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/Vortex%20Generators.html>
- LandShorter <http://www.landshorter.com/>
-- Robert
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> Russ, I bought VG's from Free Bird Innovations on eBay.
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-Generators-Experimental-Aircraft-Ultralight-/200746539447?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&hash=item2ebd6d19b7&vxp=mtr
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> Good service, can't say if they're any worse or better than others.
>
> Rick Girard
> do not archive
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net>wrote:
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>> John Gilpin a fellow Kolb lister sells VGs, I've heard good things about
>> his.
>> Otherwise I have no experience with them.
>>
>> Dennis "Skid" Rowe
>> Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
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>>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:22 AM, kinne russ <russk50(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Need some advice on VG's. I need about 60 to put on one wing of an Xtra.
>>> Is one brand much better than another? Anyone have specially good or
>> bad experience with the various suppliers?
>>> Thanx, Russ K
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Time: 02:28:03 PM PST US
Subject: Re: q
From: "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com>
If I ever take the time to install VG's I like the Stolspeed ones. Adhesive backing, no drilling, cleaner nicer look and easier to wash/wax the wings without them catching your brush or towel to much. Here is an article about VG's you might enjoy... http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20Vortex%20Generators.html
Stolspeed... http://www.stolspeed.com/
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Time: 06:29:49 PM PST US
From: Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Re: q
Stolspeed is John Gilpin's company. He's a stand up guy!
Dennis "Skid" Rowe
Mk3, 690L-70, Leechburg, PA
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 5:27 PM, "Arizona Flyer" <heracesthesun(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> If I ever take the time to install VG's I like the Stolspeed ones. Adhesive backing, no drilling, cleaner nicer look and easier to wash/wax the wings without them catching your brush or towel to much. Here is an article about VG's you might enjoy... http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20Vortex%20Generators.html
> Stolspeed... http://www.stolspeed.com/
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