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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:23 am Post subject: Rotax 9xx oil |
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Gents:
This is the oil developed by Shell & Rotax for use in Rotax 4-cycle engines. It's semi-synthetic so it can be used with both MoGas & AvGas.
If you can get it, why use anything else?
Best regards,
Bob Borger
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Jim Kelly
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 7:39 am Post subject: Rotax 9xx oil |
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Hi Bob,
               It's my understanding that any quality branded 4stroke motorcycle oil is recommended !
rgds
Jim
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)> wrote:
[quote] Gents:
This is the oil developed by Shell & Rotax for use in Rotax 4-cycle engines. Â It's semi-synthetic so it can be used with both MoGas & AvGas.
If you can get it, why use anything else?
Best regards,
Bob Borger
Sent from my iPad
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 8:02 am Post subject: Rotax 9xx oil |
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Not exactly. There is a list of recommended oil brands and types. It isn't just any 4-cycle motorcycle oil. It has to be non-foaming, with the correct gear lube properties, etc.
AeroShell Sport Plus 4 is made specifically for the Rotax 9xx engines and is the primary, #1, top-of-the-list oil recommendation. Why not use it?
Best regards,
Robert Borger, President
Geowhiziks & Doodlebugging, Inc.
Certified Petroleum Geophysicist AAPG#101
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
(H) 940-497-2123
(C) 817-992-1117
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On May 5, 2014, at 10:38, James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com (europajimkelly(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Hi Bob,
It's my understanding that any quality branded 4stroke motorcycle oil is recommended !
rgds
Jim
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Gents:
This is the oil developed by Shell & Rotax for use in Rotax 4-cycle engines. It's semi-synthetic so it can be used with both MoGas & AvGas.
If you can get it, why use anything else?
Best regards,
Bob Borger
Sent from my iPad
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Jim Kelly
Joined: 25 Jan 2014 Posts: 70 Location: England
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 8:10 am Post subject: Rotax 9xx oil |
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Dear Robert,
                     Your credentials are advice enough.
Thanks & Best Wishes
Jim
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)> wrote:
[quote]Not exactly. Â There is a list of recommended oil brands and types. Â It isn't just any 4-cycle motorcycle oil. Â It has to be non-foaming, with the correct gear lube properties, etc. Â
AeroShell Sport Plus 4 is made specifically for the Rotax 9xx engines and is the primary, #1, top-of-the-list oil recommendation. Â Why not use it?
Best regards,
Robert Borger, President
Geowhiziks & Doodlebugging, Inc.
Certified Petroleum Geophysicist AAPG#101
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
(H) [url=tel:940-497-2123]940-497-2123[/url]
(C) [url=tel:817-992-1117]817-992-1117[/url]
Sent from my iPad
On May 5, 2014, at 10:38, James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com (europajimkelly(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Hi Bob,
               It's my understanding that any quality branded 4stroke motorcycle oil is recommended !
rgds
Jim
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Gents:
This is the oil developed by Shell & Rotax for use in Rotax 4-cycle engines. Â It's semi-synthetic so it can be used with both MoGas & AvGas.
If you can get it, why use anything else?
Best regards,
Bob Borger
Sent from my iPad
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max8992
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:24 am Post subject: Rotax 9xx oil |
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One reason could be : because it’s the most expensive on the French market. I used it initially but changed for Yacco AVX 500 4T which is 15% less expensive and also highly recommended by Ratox.
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Objet : Re: Rotax 9xx oil
Not exactly. There is a list of recommended oil brands and types. It isn't just any 4-cycle motorcycle oil. It has to be non-foaming, with the correct gear lube properties, etc.
AeroShell Sport Plus 4 is made specifically for the Rotax 9xx engines and is the primary, #1, top-of-the-list oil recommendation. Why not use it?
Best regards,
Robert Borger, President
Geowhiziks & Doodlebugging, Inc.
Certified Petroleum Geophysicist AAPG#101
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
(H) 940-497-2123
(C) 817-992-1117
Sent from my iPad
On May 5, 2014, at 10:38, James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com (europajimkelly(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]
Hi Bob,
It's my understanding that any quality branded 4stroke motorcycle oil is recommended !
rgds
Jim
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com (rlborger(at)mac.com)> wrote:
Gents:
This is the oil developed by Shell & Rotax for use in Rotax 4-cycle engines. It's semi-synthetic so it can be used with both MoGas & AvGas.
If you can get it, why use anything else?
Best regards,
Bob Borger
Sent from my iPad
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Duncan McFadyean
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:54 am Post subject: Rotax 9xx oil |
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I suspect motorcycle oil is probably now difficient in ZDDP (anti scuff agent needed if the valve gear, dog clutch etc is to survive), but apparently now depleted because it poisons catalytic converters. Yes, some bikes do have those (eg BMW).
ZDDP is certainly depleted in modern car oil and it's possible (for use with older engines) to buy the stuff separately as an additive.
I started with good quality m/c oil but gave it up because the dog clutch used to screech (you here that alot on shutdown of many Rotaxes). That issue dissappeared as soon as I used the Shell Rotax stuff.
Duncan Mcf.
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 1:11 pm Post subject: Rotax 9xx oil |
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I am using Aerolube from Skydrive -advertised for Rotax 912/914????
Ken Atkinson G-CEKV
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I suspect motorcycle oil is probably now difficient in ZDDP (anti scuff agent needed if the valve gear, dog clutch etc is to survive), but apparently now depleted because it poisons catalytic converters. Yes, some bikes do have those (eg BMW).
ZDDP is certainly depleted in modern car oil and it's possible (for use with older engines) to buy the stuff separately as an additive.
I started with good quality m/c oil but gave it up because the dog clutch used to screech (you here that alot on shutdown of many Rotaxes). That issue dissappeared as soon as I used the Shell Rotax stuff.
Duncan Mcf.
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