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graeme bird

Joined: 15 Jul 2010
Posts: 434

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:26 pm Post subject: Facebook/Twitter

I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it reflects the average age? 

I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a while.

Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and blank lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra. Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was reading the recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate, dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, perhaps we should explore and let the next generation into our club.



What will this link do?



https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7

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Graeme Bird
kit4 (Wagstaff) TBD
Kit3 G-CLXU (Gregory) mono 914 xs Woodcomp
Kit2 G-PATS - (kesterton) Mono Classic 912 warpdrive
Kit 1 G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS 912S, Woodcomp G(@)gdbmk.co.uk

gholland(at)content-strea
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 1:48 pm Post subject: Facebook/Twitter

Graeme

I fail to see how the label 'snobby' applies to the comments regarding take up of FB or Twitter.

Most including my own were based on the invasive way both of those media types can come across with superfluous material.

There are many photo gallery Websites that can display as per your FB Page.

Can you name some individuals that have not purchased a Europa or joined the Club as it hasn't invoked FB or Twitter?

Nothing is stopping that next generation.....

Gerry

Curmudgeon and generally a miserable old sod!

peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 2:38 pm Post subject: Facebook/Twitter

Pics are always great, but I'd love to see many more wide angle go-pro style vids on YouTube .... there are sadly extremely few from Europa's. Vids are very motivational for the builders  among us 



Cheers,

Pete



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		   On May 18, 2014, at 5:26 PM, "graeme bird" <graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:

 

 

 

 I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it reflects the average age? 

 I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a while.

 Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and blank lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra. Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was reading the recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate, dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, perhaps we should explore and let the next generation into our club.

 

 What will this link do?

 

 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7

 

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 Graeme Bird

 G-UMPY

 Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W

 Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono 

 g(at)gdbmk.co.uk

 

 

 

 

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 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423417#423417

g-fizy

Joined: 27 May 2012
Posts: 46
Location: uk

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Facebook/Twitter

I never thought so many would dislike facebook or twitter ,i consider my self a old git at 55 but have always been a tech head ,i hope some who wish to will use facebook or twitter ,to post europa pictures and interesting non techno europa info we mite pic up some more interested budding pilots  



regards jim 



my facebook link 



facebook.com/jim.davis.5811877

duanefamly(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 3:58 pm Post subject: Facebook/Twitter

I don't see why we can't run both.......then allow those that are comfortable with either one use the one they like......I believe this would allow for even more information sharing.....especially photos and videos.

   

  Mike Duane

   

   

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kingsnjan(at)westnet.com.
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:36 pm Post subject: Facebook/Twitter

Graham,



It is disappointing you now appear to be wanting to force your ideas onto others notwithstanding almost total rejection of your FB/Twitter suggestion on this list.  I have detected no response that I would consider to be "snobby".  Perhaps those responses you consider to be negative are interpreted that way by you only because those persons didn't agree with you.  



I take umbrage at your suggestion that general rejection of the idea may reflect the average age of list users.  Rather I would suggest that rejection is a result of list users being more mature than the majority of scatterbrains using such marvellous social media.  I was 70 years young last month and quite capable of making my own informed decisions thank you. 



Consider the following:-



There are many lists on the Matronics website servicing probably thousands of users. Are all those users wrong?



The List isn't broken so doesn't need fixing. 



I have been on this list for about 12 years and have not found any shortcomings ....... It suits my needs admirably. 



I have yet to see anything end up better as a result of being changed for the sake of change.



Sorry if I'm snobby!



Kingsley from Oz



Do not archive



Sent from my iPad



 	  Quote: 	
		   On 18 May 2014, at 10:26 pm, "graeme bird" <graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:

 

 

 

 I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it reflects the average age? 

 I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a while.

 Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and blank lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra. Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was reading the recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate, dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, perhaps we should explore and let the next generation into our club.

 

 What will this link do?

 

 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7

 

 --------

 Graeme Bird

 G-UMPY

 Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W

 Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono 

 g(at)gdbmk.co.uk

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423417#423417

max8992

Joined: 28 Jul 2011
Posts: 142

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:48 pm Post subject: Facebook/Twitter

I'm 61 (can't trust it!) but engineer in new techs (IT & electronics).

Nevertheless I don't see (there is not?) any advantage to go FB and Twitter

more than spreading personal data where some can take advantage of it in

spite of me. 

We can share here links to YouTube for videos, so may be the usage can be

improved to share pics easier, Matt?



Max  Cointe

mcointe(at)free.fr

F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear

Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours



F-PLDJ Dyn’Aéro MCR 4S 

Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures




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		   I never thought so many would dislike facebook or twitter ,i consider

myself a old git at 55 but have always been a tech head ,i hope some who
	


wish to will use

 	  Quote: 	
		   facebook or twitter ,to post europa pictures and interesting non techno

europa info we mite pic up some more interested budding pilots
	





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		   Pics are always great, but I'd love to see many more wide angle go-pro

style vids on YouTube .... there are sadly extremely few from Europa's. Vids
	


are very

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		   motivational for the builders  among us 


	




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 I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question,

perhaps it reflects the average age?

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Max8992
Europa XS #560 F-PMLH

alan.twigg775(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 1:07 am Post subject: Facebook/Twitter

Can we drop this theme, we get the point, I have not responded as many have expressed my view but I am close to unsubscribing as my 

 



Sent from my iPhone



 	  Quote: 	
		   On 18 May 2014, at 22:26, "graeme bird" <graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:

 

 

 

 I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it reflects the average age? 

 I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a while.

 Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and blank lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra. Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was reading the recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate, dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, perhaps we should explore and let the next generation into our club.

 

 What will this link do?

 

 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7

 

 --------

 Graeme Bird

 G-UMPY

 Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W

 Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono 

 g(at)gdbmk.co.uk

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423417#423417

duanefamly(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 6:45 am Post subject: Facebook/Twitter

Alan, please don't allow the answers to your post steer you away from the Europa world. I don't understand the almost vehement refusal to even discuss your idea. There is absolutely NO thought of "replacing" our current Forum, but merely adding to our world. No one is demanding that people change the way they share their Europa world, but simply add another means to draw those that use these means of communication. Some people prefer FB/Twitter because that is "their" world.....others, myself included, have relied on our current communication platform for so long that is feels good. But I would not be against having a means of more easily sharing pix of other builders designs, paint schemes, fixes to problems, and especially requesting help with a problem (a picture IS worth a thousand words). Also, unless you are already in the Europa world, people would never search for the Europa website or Builders Forum. On FB/Twitter, our world could attract those that could develop a passion for building or flying Europas. And people need not share any more personal information than they feel comfortable with. Everything that goes on FB/Twitter gets gleaned by so many information gatherers it would make your head spin. 

   

  Mike Duane

   

   

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frans(at)privatepilots.nl
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 10:26 am Post subject: Facebook/Twitter

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		   On FB/Twitter, our world could attract those that could develop a

 passion for building or flying Europas.


	


Why would we want that? Has flying an Europa became a religion and do

we need to spread the word and try to draw more soals into it?

I don't care whether our current fleet would be expanded or remains

stable. No need for growth here. In fact, I think that many of us

wanted to build an Europa to do something special, not because one

felt the urge to follow the herd.

And to me it looks like facebook and twitter are mainly herd things. I

always get the feeling that it is sort of a compensation for people

who are not able to live an interesting live themselves. Making a

picture of their dinner and letting the world know that they are going

to eat it. That kind of stuf.



Oh and BTW, all of us were apparently able to find this little

community without the "help" of facebook or twitter. We don't need it

for that. In fact, I would suggest that anyone who is unable to find

this without the help of facebook or twitter doesn't deserve it. 



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		   Everything that goes on FB/Twitter gets gleaned by so many

 information gatherers it would make your head spin.


	


And that is a good reason against it. I want to share my information

with people I know, and not share it with thousands of friends of

friends of friends... If I wanted to broadcast everything to the

entire world I would easily find opportunities to do so, still without

the help of facebook or twitter.



Frans





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