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Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
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Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 5:56 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Hi All

Rotax 914  warning lights. TCU switch ON.

I have a Europa 914, 

Red warning light ?!!!!! 

Amber warning light ?!!!!



What are they for, What should I know about them.

Many thanks.

Alan

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 6:23 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Alan,

If you don't have copies of the various 914 manuals, go to Rotax-Owner.com and download them.

Rotax Operators Manual, Section 4.4) Caution lamps -- Page 4-4 Subsections 4.4.1-4.4.3 describes the illumination of the red and orange warning lamps and what the meaning is.

Section 3.4) Engine start -- page 3-7 Lamps describes the self test illumination on start.

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Bob Borger

Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914 w/ Intercooler & Airmaster C/S Prop

Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming AEIO-320 EXP

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX 76208-5331

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On May 23, 2014, at 08:56 AM, Alan Carter <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> wrote:

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Hi All

Rotax 914 warning lights. TCU switch ON.

I have a Europa 914, 

Red warning light ?!!!!! 

Amber warning light ?!!!!



What are they for, What should I know about them.

Many thanks.

Alan





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Alan Carter

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Hi Bob.

Hope you are well, nice weather here in the UK.

Well ," Blinking" lot to remember.

I will make up a small emergency check list for that lot.

Many thanks,

Alan

Alan Carter

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 10:26 am Post subject: Re: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Hi Bob.

Warning Lamps. 

I have a small plastic reservoir for the engine coolant, I take it the unit is a sealed radiator system, but I have noticed over a period of time the level has gone down a little, is this normal.

Also why is there not a warning light which illuminates if the coolant level

is getting low.

Regards.

Alan

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:13 pm Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Hi Alan,



Reasonably well over here.  On the final stages of getting my Europa back in the air after the fuel tank replacement.  Have to do some engine ground run tests tomorrow morning.  Positive tests and weather permitting I might have it back in the air on Sunday.  Weather may go to poop on Sunday though.  And is certain forecast for poop on Monday.  And I depart for Chennai, India on Tuesday.  Will be there for almost 4 weeks on business.  I’d like to have the Europa ready to fly when I get back so I can have some fun and do some cross country travel.



Yes, “Blinking” lot to remember.  Mostly remember that if they come on in flight it’s a bad thing.  



Not a bad idea to add to the emergency check list either.



As to the coolant levels.  Yes, they seem to go down over time.  I’m not sure why.  Give me some recent flight time starting in late June and we’ll see what we come up with.  As to a warning light for coolant level, I guess that’d be your coolant or CHT temperature indicators.  



Enjoy the good weather while you can!



Best,

Bob

On May 23, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Alan Carter <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> wrote:






Hi Bob.

Hope you are well, nice weather here in the UK.

Well ," Blinking" lot to remember.

I will make up a small emergency check list for that lot.

Many thanks,

Alan

Ivor Phillips

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 253
Location: London UK

Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 12:44 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

I fitted a small float to my expansion bottle wired to a led on my panel, and pleased to say it's performed well over the last five years, 

A couple of years ago one of my water bleed screws developed a leak and it gave me a heads up earlier than a high water temperature would have done, so worth doing IMO,

The Rotax900 series are renowned for loosing a bit of coolant from the water pump  drain hole if left inactive for any length of time,

Ivor Phillips 

Sent from my iPad



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		   On 23 May 2014, at 22:13, Robert Borger <rlborger(at)mac.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Hi Alan,

 

 Reasonably well over here.  On the final stages of getting my Europa back in the air after the fuel tank replacement.  Have to do some engine ground run tests tomorrow morning.  Positive tests and weather permitting I might have it back in the air on Sunday.  Weather may go to poop on Sunday though.  And is certain forecast for poop on Monday.  And I depart for Chennai, India on Tuesday.  Will be there for almost 4 weeks on business.  Iâ€™d like to have the Europa ready to fly when I get back so I can have some fun and do some cross country travel.

 

 Yes, â€œBlinkingâ€ lot to remember.  Mostly remember that if they come on in flight itâ€™s a bad thing.  

 

 Not a bad idea to add to the emergency check list either.

 

 As to the coolant levels.  Yes, they seem to go down over time.  Iâ€™m not sure why.  Give me some recent flight time starting in late June and weâ€™ll see what we come up with.  As to a warning light for coolant level, I guess thatâ€™d be your coolant or CHT temperature indicators.  

 

 Enjoy the good weather while you can!

 

 Best,

 Bob

 

 

 On May 23, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Alan Carter <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 Hi Bob.

 Hope you are well, nice weather here in the UK.

 Well ," Blinking" lot to remember.

 I will make up a small emergency check list for that lot.

 Many thanks,

 Alan

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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 3:37 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Ivor> I fitted a small float to my expansion bottle wired to a led on my panel



Hi Ivor,

Do you have a reference for the part you used for the float?

Regards,

sacha

Alan Carter

Joined: 02 Jul 2012
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Location: Kent, England.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Hello Ivor.

Looks like Lydd is going to become more active know Manston is closed.

I would like to fit an indicator the same as you have done, sounds a good idea, is there something you can drill and attach to the filler cap.

Can you give some info on this.

Regards.

Alan

Ivor Phillips

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 253
Location: London UK

Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 12:36 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Hi alan

I drilled into the side of the plastic expansion bottle that Rotax supplied, I put her midway so the level would need to drop to minimum  before the sensor triggered,

I will try and turn up the type of float sensor I used from my records and let you no,

It's a simple wiring job once you are through the firewall,

Regards

Ivor

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		   On 26 May 2014, at 08:51, "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 Hello Ivor.

 Looks like Lydd is going to become more active know Manston is closed.

 I would like to fit an indicator the same as you have done, sounds a good idea, is there something you can drill and attach to the filler cap.

 Can you give some info on this.

 Regards.

 Alan

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 2:19 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Alan, For my money it doesn't really matter what level the 

fluid is in the bottle as long as the level in the header 

tank is OK, and I assume you check that frequently as part 

of your preparation for flight. The bottle is just there 

to make any fluid pushed out by thermal expansion 

recoverable as I see it. Why add weight and complication? 

regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ

On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:35:12 +0100

  Ivor Phillips <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

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<ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com>

 

 Hi alan

 I drilled into the side of the plastic expansion bottle 

that Rotax supplied, I put her midway so the level would 

need to drop to minimum  before the sensor triggered,

 I will try and turn up the type of float sensor I used 

from my records and let you no,

 It's a simple wiring job once you are through the 

firewall,

 Regards

 Ivor

 Sent from my iPad

 

> On 26 May 2014, at 08:51, "Alan Carter" 

><alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> wrote:

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><alancarteresq(at)onetel.net>

> 

> Hello Ivor.

> Looks like Lydd is going to become more active know 

>Manston is closed.

> I would like to fit an indicator the same as you have 

>done, sounds a good idea, is there something you can 

>drill and attach to the filler cap.

> Can you give some info on this.

> Regards.

> Alan

> 

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Ivor Phillips

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:42 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

I don't quite agree David, if unbeknown to you one of your hoses/ connections developed a leak when airborne you would be unaware until the level dropped below the pressure cap bottle,

Once it had done so it would effectively stop circulating through the radiator and your temperature would start climbing upwards, 

The sensor is a couple of grams at most and IMO would give me a heads up long before it got critical, 

My expansion bottle is centre of the firewall as high as possible so cannot be seen without removing the top cowl, I of course visually check it but on a long flight it nice to know that nothing untoward is happening,

For people interested in the sensor I used its a DE4 PPS 10 A01.    Website

http://www.deeter.co.uk/products/float-switch-liquid-level-sensors-overview/40-series-horizontal-liquid-level-sensor-float-switch

Regards

Ivor

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		   On 26 May 2014, at 11:19, "David Joyce" <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk> wrote:

 Alan, For my money it doesn't really matter what level the fluid is in the bottle as long as the level in the header tank is OK, and I assume you check that frequently as part of your preparation for flight. The bottle is just there to make any fluid pushed out by thermal expansion recoverable as I see it. Why add weight and complication? regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ

 On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:35:12 +0100

 Ivor Phillips <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

> 

> Hi alan

> I drilled into the side of the plastic expansion bottle that Rotax supplied, I put her midway so the level would need to drop to minimum  before the sensor triggered,

> I will try and turn up the type of float sensor I used from my records and let you no,

> It's a simple wiring job once you are through the firewall,

> Regards

> Ivor

> Sent from my iPad

>> On 26 May 2014, at 08:51, "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> wrote:

>> 

>> Hello Ivor.

>> Looks like Lydd is going to become more active know Manston is closed.

>> I would like to fit an indicator the same as you have done, sounds a good idea, is there something you can drill and attach to the filler cap.

>> Can you give some info on this.

>> Regards.

>> Alan

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:33 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Ivor Phillips a écrit :

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 I don't quite agree David, if unbeknown to you one of your hoses/ connections developed a leak when airborne you would be unaware until the level dropped below the pressure cap bottle,


	


Ivor and all,



In my opinion, monitoring the coolant *pressure* would be preferable, 

since pressure would be more closely related to the primary cause -leak 

in the circuit - than the consequence - low coolant level.

Be prepared for some additional head-scratching, like is always the case 

when you monitor a new parameter.



One word of caution : anytime one opens the pressure cap of the 

expansion tank, one breaks the syphon, so it's not the best way to check 

the coolant level. Better monitor the level in the translucent overflow 

bottle, without disturbing the coolant circuit.



Best regards,

-- 

Gilles

http://contrails.free.fr

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:59 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Ivor, It is not often I disagree with you, but I would 

guess that a leaking or burst  hose will let fluid out and 

air out of/in to the radiator system without producing 

sufficient suction to empty out the overflow bottle, so 

that you could boil without your level sensor saying 

anything. On the other hand boiling the coolant is 

something that is very noticeable in air - you get blue 

fluid all over the screen - experienced when I was trying 

to do a 5 min full power climb to satisfy the LAA with one 

of my early model props.!

Regards, David

On Tue, 27 May 2014 10:41:43 +0100

  Ivor Phillips <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

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<ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com>

 

 I don't quite agree David, if unbeknown to you one of 

your hoses/ connections developed a leak when airborne 

you would be unaware until the level dropped below the 

pressure cap bottle,

 Once it had done so it would effectively stop 

circulating through the radiator and your temperature 

would start climbing upwards, 

 The sensor is a couple of grams at most and IMO would 

give me a heads up long before it got critical, 

 My expansion bottle is centre of the firewall as high as 

possible so cannot be seen without removing the top cowl, 

I of course visually check it but on a long flight it 

nice to know that nothing untoward is happening,

For people interested in the sensor I used its a DE4 PPS 

10 A01.    Website

 

 http://www.deeter.co.uk/products/float-switch-liquid-level-sensors-overview/40-series-horizontal-liquid-level-sensor-float-switch

 

 Regards

 Ivor

 Sent from my iPad

 

> On 26 May 2014, at 11:19, "David Joyce" 

><davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk> wrote:

> 

> 

><davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk>

> 

> Alan, For my money it doesn't really matter what level 

>the fluid is in the bottle as long as the level in the 

>header tank is OK, and I assume you check that frequently 

>as part of your preparation for flight. The bottle is 

>just there to make any fluid pushed out by thermal 

>expansion recoverable as I see it. Why add weight and 

>complication? regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ

> 

> 

> On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:35:12 +0100

> Ivor Phillips <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> 

>><ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com>

>> Hi alan

>> I drilled into the side of the plastic expansion bottle 

>>that Rotax supplied, I put her midway so the level would 

>>need to drop to minimum  before the sensor triggered,

>> I will try and turn up the type of float sensor I used 

>>from my records and let you no,

>> It's a simple wiring job once you are through the 

>>firewall,

>> Regards

>> Ivor

>> Sent from my iPad

>>> On 26 May 2014, at 08:51, "Alan Carter" 

>>><alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> wrote:

>>> 

>>><alancarteresq(at)onetel.net>

>>> Hello Ivor.

>>> Looks like Lydd is going to become more active know 

>>>Manston is closed.

>>> I would like to fit an indicator the same as you have 

>>>done, sounds a good idea, is there something you can 

>>>drill and attach to the filler cap.

>>> Can you give some info on this.

>>> Regards.

>>> Alan

>>> Read this topic online here:

>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423797#423797

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Many Thanks All.

Ivan thanks for your link.

I would think with a small leak which could occur in flight or a leak that occurs when warming up and stops when the engine is hot would take coolant from the reservoir, as you can not see the reservoir with the cowlings on I think it is a nice idea to have a warning light as its so simple to install. Myself I would like to find a Small sensor probe that I could drill a hole in the reservoir filler cap and fix this sensor probe.  Anybody know of such a think,? Can always find a new cap.

Regards.

Alan

PS,

I don't understand about breaking the syphon, when removing the pressure cap?. plus you can not see the reservoir tank on a pre flight check .

Ivor Phillips

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 253
Location: London UK

Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:05 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

I see what you are say David but in my case it works well, my Expansion bottle is set high in the centre of the firewall and has a positive head of pressure back to the filler cap,

Twice I have had small leaks, one from a hose clip before changing to the spring clamp type and once from a bottom hose bleed nipple that I had fitted,

Both times I was aware of the coolant loss long before it became critical,

I take your point that with a burst hose it probably wouldn't react quickly enough but thats were my water temperature sender with voice activated Dynon shouting high temperature in my ears would get my complete attention,



Regards

ivor



Sent from my iPad



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		   On 27 May 2014, at 14:58, "David Joyce" <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk> wrote:

 

 

 

 Ivor, It is not often I disagree with you, but I would guess that a leaking or burst  hose will let fluid out and air out of/in to the radiator system without producing sufficient suction to empty out the overflow bottle, so that you could boil without your level sensor saying anything. On the other hand boiling the coolant is something that is very noticeable in air - you get blue fluid all over the screen - experienced when I was trying to do a 5 min full power climb to satisfy the LAA with one of my early model props.!

 Regards, David

 

 

 On Tue, 27 May 2014 10:41:43 +0100

 Ivor Phillips <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

> 

> I don't quite agree David, if unbeknown to you one of your hoses/ connections developed a leak when airborne you would be unaware until the level dropped below the pressure cap bottle,

> Once it had done so it would effectively stop circulating through the radiator and your temperature would start climbing upwards, The sensor is a couple of grams at most and IMO would give me a heads up long before it got critical, My expansion bottle is centre of the firewall as high as possible so cannot be seen without removing the top cowl, I of course visually check it but on a long flight it nice to know that nothing untoward is happening,

> For people interested in the sensor I used its a DE4 PPS 10 A01.    Website

> http://www.deeter.co.uk/products/float-switch-liquid-level-sensors-overview/40-series-horizontal-liquid-level-sensor-float-switch

> Regards

> Ivor

> Sent from my iPad

>> On 26 May 2014, at 11:19, "David Joyce" <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk> wrote:

>> 

>> Alan, For my money it doesn't really matter what level the fluid is in the bottle as long as the level in the header tank is OK, and I assume you check that frequently as part of your preparation for flight. The bottle is just there to make any fluid pushed out by thermal expansion recoverable as I see it. Why add weight and complication? regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ

>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:35:12 +0100

>> Ivor Phillips <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> Hi alan

>>> I drilled into the side of the plastic expansion bottle that Rotax supplied, I put her midway so the level would need to drop to minimum  before the sensor triggered,

>>> I will try and turn up the type of float sensor I used from my records and let you no,

>>> It's a simple wiring job once you are through the firewall,

>>> Regards

>>> Ivor

>>> Sent from my iPad

>>>> On 26 May 2014, at 08:51, "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> Hello Ivor.

>>>> Looks like Lydd is going to become more active know Manston is closed.

>>>> I would like to fit an indicator the same as you have done, sounds a good idea, is there something you can drill and attach to the filler cap.

>>>> Can you give some info on this.

>>>> Regards.

>>>> Alan

>>>> Read this topic online here:

>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423797#423797

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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 9:21 pm Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

What if the overflow bottle was mounted on the cockpit side of the firewall where it was visible at all times?

On May 28, 2014, at 2:04 AM, Ivor Phillips <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:



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 I see what you are say David but in my case it works well, my Expansion bottle is set high in the centre of the firewall and has a positive head of pressure back to the filler cap,

 Twice I have had small leaks, one from a hose clip before changing to the spring clamp type and once from a bottom hose bleed nipple that I had fitted,

 Both times I was aware of the coolant loss long before it became critical,

 I take your point that with a burst hose it probably wouldn't react quickly enough but thats were my water temperature sender with voice activated Dynon shouting high temperature in my ears would get my complete attention,

 

 Regards

 ivor

 

 Sent from my iPad

 

> On 27 May 2014, at 14:58, "David Joyce" <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Ivor, It is not often I disagree with you, but I would guess that a leaking or burst  hose will let fluid out and air out of/in to the radiator system without producing sufficient suction to empty out the overflow bottle, so that you could boil without your level sensor saying anything. On the other hand boiling the coolant is something that is very noticeable in air - you get blue fluid all over the screen - experienced when I was trying to do a 5 min full power climb to satisfy the LAA with one of my early model props.!

> Regards, David

> 

> 

> On Tue, 27 May 2014 10:41:43 +0100

> Ivor Phillips <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> 

>> I don't quite agree David, if unbeknown to you one of your hoses/ connections developed a leak when airborne you would be unaware until the level dropped below the pressure cap bottle,

>> Once it had done so it would effectively stop circulating through the radiator and your temperature would start climbing upwards, The sensor is a couple of grams at most and IMO would give me a heads up long before it got critical, My expansion bottle is centre of the firewall as high as possible so cannot be seen without removing the top cowl, I of course visually check it but on a long flight it nice to know that nothing untoward is happening,

>> For people interested in the sensor I used its a DE4 PPS 10 A01.    Website

>> http://www.deeter.co.uk/products/float-switch-liquid-level-sensors-overview/40-series-horizontal-liquid-level-sensor-float-switch

>> Regards

>> Ivor

>> Sent from my iPad

>>> On 26 May 2014, at 11:19, "David Joyce" <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk> wrote:

>>> 

>>> Alan, For my money it doesn't really matter what level the fluid is in the bottle as long as the level in the header tank is OK, and I assume you check that frequently as part of your preparation for flight. The bottle is just there to make any fluid pushed out by thermal expansion recoverable as I see it. Why add weight and complication? regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ

>>> On Mon, 26 May 2014 09:35:12 +0100

>>> Ivor Phillips <ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> Hi alan

>>>> I drilled into the side of the plastic expansion bottle that Rotax supplied, I put her midway so the level would need to drop to minimum  before the sensor triggered,

>>>> I will try and turn up the type of float sensor I used from my records and let you no,

>>>> It's a simple wiring job once you are through the firewall,

>>>> Regards

>>>> Ivor

>>>> Sent from my iPad

>>>>> On 26 May 2014, at 08:51, "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq(at)onetel.net> wrote:

>>>>> 

>>>>> Hello Ivor.

>>>>> Looks like Lydd is going to become more active know Manston is closed.

>>>>> I would like to fit an indicator the same as you have done, sounds a good idea, is there something you can drill and attach to the filler cap.

>>>>> Can you give some info on this.

>>>>> Regards.

>>>>> Alan

>>>>> Read this topic online here:

>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423797#423797

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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 11:47 pm Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

When the fluid boils the cockpit could be filled with steam.  That would

certainly get your attention!



Regards



Brian Davies



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Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 5:41 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Thats the whole point right   

On May 31, 2014, at 1:46 AM, Brian Davies <brian.davies(at)clara.co.uk (brian.davies(at)clara.co.uk)> wrote:

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When the fluid boils the cockpit could be filled with steam.  That would

certainly get your attention!



Regards



Brian Davies



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Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 12:44 pm Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

I was once comfortable checking the overflow bottle level. not any more. A 

friend had a small leak in one of his hoses and the first indication he had 

was an overheat indication. When he landed his over flow bottle was at the 

normal level but he had no coolant in the  pressure reservoir.

Over time the coolant had slowly leaked ender pressure and on cool down the 

system sucked in air instead of coolant from the reserve bottle.

I now check for leaks, bottle level and coolant in the pressure tank.

Carl

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richard collings

Joined: 08 Jul 2011
Posts: 73
Location: warwickshire england

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:19 am Post subject: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning Lights

Hi everyone.

 I think the experienced pilots amongst our community need to stop this  right now and I donâ€™t class myself in that group.  Imagine the situation,  say on take off, your busy in the cockpit to say the least and you see the  engine temp rise into the red, 

   what do you do, you canâ€™t shut down, you must  expedite  a safe landing asap. If you have time before the engine seizes  try to do an abbreviated circuit and radio your intention with a Pan call and  pray you can get back down in one piece. I am sure other pilots will offer  differing scenarios. The point is if on top of the considerable work load the  pilot has, he now has to somehow  manage boiling water and steam in the  cabin, he isnâ€™t going to do it.

 Sorry for being blunt.

 Richard 

 only 700ish hrs 75 on type

  From: Joel Milloway (dirtfly7(at)yahoo.com) 

 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 2:40 PM

 To: rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com (rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com)  

 Subject: Re: Re: Rotax 914 Turbo Warning  Lights

  



 Thats  the whole point right   

  On May 31, 2014, at 1:46 AM, Brian Davies <brian.davies(at)clara.co.uk (brian.davies(at)clara.co.uk)>  wrote:

 [quote]   -->    RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" <brian.davies(at)clara.co.uk (brian.davies(at)clara.co.uk)>



When    the fluid boils the cockpit could be filled with steam.  That    would

certainly get your attention!



Regards



Brian    Davies



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