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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:43 pm    Post subject: Brake Fluid Out Top Of Reservoir Reply with quote

Did a few taxi test runs today before first flight hopefully this Saturday.

When I got her back in the hangar I noticed brake fluid on the belly.
Taking off the top cowl I noticed that brake fluid was coming out the
top of the reservoir vent cap. I assume that I had it too full?

So, how full is full enough where applying the brakes no longer allows
it to seep out the top of the reservoir?

Thanks,

-Sean #40303 (Prepping for first flight)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:02 pm    Post subject: Brake Fluid Out Top Of Reservoir Reply with quote

I think you still had some air trapped in the system somewhere that
forced some fluid back to the reservoir. The expansion was probably due
to the air being heated ..... probably near the brake piston.
It only takes a small bit of oil to look like you lost a gallon ......
I'd bleed the brakes again .... from the bottom. I have a PVC pipe
capped on one end and the other with a female adapter. A plug with a
small hole in the end allows you to fill the pipe, put the plug in and
put some shop air through the hole. Doesn't take much pressure.
Plastic tubing pushed into an undersized hole near the cap on the bottom
feeds the fluid to a fitting screwed into the brake cylinder in place of
the 'pressure relief' fitting.
A barb fitting screwed into the reservoir allows you to capture the
'overflow' and run it into a clean container so you can re-use it. Wait
'till all the bubbles in the line are gone ..... at that point you
should have a 'full' brake system .... at least on that side. Wink
Linn

On 6/9/2014 6:42 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
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Did a few taxi test runs today before first flight hopefully this
Saturday.

When I got her back in the hangar I noticed brake fluid on the belly.
Taking off the top cowl I noticed that brake fluid was coming out the
top of the reservoir vent cap. I assume that I had it too full?

So, how full is full enough where applying the brakes no longer allows
it to seep out the top of the reservoir?

Thanks,

-Sean #40303 (Prepping for first flight)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:28 am    Post subject: Brake Fluid Out Top Of Reservoir Reply with quote

I would remove just a tad from where it is right now so you dont get any more overflow.

Niko

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Did a few taxi test runs today before first flight hopefully this Saturday.

When I got her back in the hangar I noticed brake fluid on the belly. Taking off the top cowl I noticed that brake fluid was coming out the top of the reservoir vent cap. I assume that I had it too full?

So, how full is full enough where applying the brakes no longer allows it to seep out the top of the reservoir?

Thanks,

-Sean #40303 (Prepping for first flight)






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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:46 am    Post subject: Brake Fluid Out Top Of Reservoir Reply with quote

On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:02 AM, RV10-List Digest Server <rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)> wrote:
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Sean,
I don’t think you ever got an answer as to brake fluid level in Master Cylinder. The cylinder does need to have room for expansion of the fluid as it heats up on braking and so about 3/4 is a good working level for me in past RV’s. I put a mark on the outside of the cylinder about 3/4 of the way up from the bottom. Take the cap off. Put a finger on the mark on the outside and look in the cylinder matching the fluid level with your finger on the outside. Of course, use a flashlight if needed. If it is too high, syphon a bit out of the M/C with a small hose.
That said, I also agree that you should bleed the system (both sides) again to make sure you have removed all air from the lines. I like to screw a fitting (something like ACS part # AN840-4D -$4.45) into the M/C top. Then push on several feet of some tight fitting clear tubing so you can see what comes out. Put the other end of the tubing into a container, then go back down to the calipers and bleed away. Remember we are trying to force the fluid into the calipers through the lines and up into the master cylinder. If you are using Vans stock brake lines you can at least see if there is air in the transfer tubes, so carefully check these. Hope that helps…..
Rich

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:47 am    Post subject: Brake Fluid Out Top Of Reservoir Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I'll lower the level a bit in the reservoir and see how it
goes.

I've used the bottom up bleeding method recommended and the brakes were
good. No soft spots noticed on a few taxi runs.

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Karol Hansen <mailto:karolamy(at)roadrunner.com>
June 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Sean,
I don’t think you ever got an answer as to brake fluid level in Master
Cylinder. The cylinder does need to have room for expansion of the
fluid as it heats up on braking and so about 3/4 is a good working
level for me in past RV’s. I put a mark on the outside of the
cylinder about 3/4 of the way up from the bottom. Take the cap off.
Put a finger on the mark on the outside and look in the cylinder
matching the fluid level with your finger on the outside. Of course,
use a flashlight if needed. If it is too high, syphon a bit out of
the M/C with a small hose.

That said, I also agree that you should bleed the system (both sides)
again to make sure you have removed all air from the lines. I like to
screw a fitting (something like ACS part # AN840-4D -$4.45) into the
M/C top. Then push on several feet of some tight fitting clear tubing
so you can see what comes out. Put the other end of the tubing into a
container, then go back down to the calipers and bleed away. Remember
we are trying to force the fluid into the calipers through the lines
and up into the master cylinder. If you are using Vans stock brake
lines you can at least see if there is air in the transfer tubes, so
carefully check these. Hope that helps…..

Rich

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