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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 563

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:30 am Post subject: Propellor Redux

Hi



I have been carefully weighing all the comments regarding the Hartzell / MT options for the -10. I really, really like the idea of the MT but am concerned about service issues that cause props to go back to German for repair.



Has anyone had serious issues that have grounded them (other that prop strikes). 



Is there a repair station in Canada/US that negates the need for a prop vacation to Germany?



 I am still leaning towards the Hartzell but really wish the decision was more clear cut.



Cheers



Les

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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:58 am Post subject: Propellor Redux

We've used several local prop shops for MT service.  They're all service centers.  I don't think we've ever sent one back to Germany.

  



The biggest problem we've had was with blisters near the root;  that said, there's some allowable criteria, not that big a deal.

  



http://www.mt-propeller.com/en/entw/services_can.htm



  And I love my Hartzell...

--Dave



 



On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 10:30 AM, kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca (kearney(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:

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 I have been carefully weighing all the comments regarding the Hartzell / MT options for the -10. I really, really like the idea of the MT but am concerned about service issues that cause props to go back to German for repair.

   

 Has anyone had serious issues that have grounded them (other that prop strikes).

 

 Is there a repair station in Canada/US that negates the need for a prop vacation to Germany?

 

  I am still leaning towards the Hartzell but really wish the decision was more clear cut.

 

 Cheers

 

 Les

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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:22 am Post subject: Propellor Redux

There is a MT propellor shop on Deland airport.  KDED.

linn

On 6/15/2014 1:30 PM, kearney wrote:

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 Hi



 I have been carefully weighing all the comments regarding the Hartzell / MT options for the -10. I really, really like the idea of the MT but am concerned about service issues that cause props to go back to German for repair.



 Has anyone had serious issues that have grounded them (other that prop strikes).



 Is there a repair station in Canada/US that negates the need for a prop vacation to Germany?



   I am still leaning towards the Hartzell but really wish the decision was more clear cut.



 Cheers



 Les

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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:08 pm Post subject: Propellor Redux

MT USA is In Deland FL. Very good service and no need to send props back to Germany. I bought my prop from the late Jim Ayers and had it shipped completely assembled from Germany. This is possible if you live close enough to an airport with international cargo capabilities. Probably true in Canada as well. Saved significant $$ avoiding having to ship to a service center, having it assembled there, and then transporting to my location. 



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		   On Jun 15, 2014, at 1:30 PM, kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:

 

 

 

 Hi

 

 I have been carefully weighing all the comments regarding the Hartzell / MT options for the -10. I really, really like the idea of the MT but am concerned about service issues that cause props to go back to German for repair.

 

 Has anyone had serious issues that have grounded them (other that prop strikes). 

 

 Is there a repair station in Canada/US that negates the need for a prop vacation to Germany?

 

 I am still leaning towards the Hartzell but really wish the decision was more clear cut.

 

 Cheers

 

 Les

 #40643

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424880#424880

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:23 pm Post subject: Propellor Redux

There is a MT factory service center in Florida. They service and overhaul MT propellers exclusively. They are owned and operated by MT Propeller inc. 

http://www.mt-propellerusa.com/

Their contact info is under the "contact" link



 



On Jun 15, 2014, at 11:22, Linn Walters <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com (flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com)> wrote:

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There is a MT propellor shop on Deland airport.  KDED.

linn

On 6/15/2014 1:30 PM, kearney wrote:

[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "kearney" <kearney(at)shaw.ca (kearney(at)shaw.ca)>



Hi



I have been carefully weighing all the comments regarding the Hartzell / MT options for the -10. I really, really like the idea of the MT but am concerned about service issues that cause props to go back to German for repair.



Has anyone had serious issues that have grounded them (other that prop strikes).



Is there a repair station in Canada/US that negates the need for a prop vacation to Germany?



  I am still leaning towards the Hartzell but really wish the decision was more clear cut.



Cheers



Les

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kearney

Joined: 20 Sep 2008
Posts: 563

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:41 pm Post subject: Propellor Redux

David

Your comment about local assembly is interesting. Another local builder had to have a local shop assemble his prop even though we have an international airport here. 

I'll have to look into this. 

I take comfort that repairs can be fine on this continent. 

Cheers

Les

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		   On Jun 15, 2014, at 2:07 PM, David Maib <dmaib(at)me.com> wrote:

 MT USA is In Deland FL. Very good service and no need to send props back to Germany. I bought my prop from the late Jim Ayers and had it shipped completely assembled from Germany. This is possible if you live close enough to an airport with international cargo capabilities. Probably true in Canada as well. Saved significant $$ avoiding having to ship to a service center, having it assembled there, and then transporting to my location. 

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2014, at 1:30 PM, kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Hi

> 

> I have been carefully weighing all the comments regarding the Hartzell / MT options for the -10. I really, really like the idea of the MT but am concerned about service issues that cause props to go back to German for repair.

> 

> Has anyone had serious issues that have grounded them (other that prop strikes). 

> 

> Is there a repair station in Canada/US that negates the need for a prop vacation to Germany?

> 

> I am still leaning towards the Hartzell but really wish the decision was more clear cut.

> 

> Cheers

> 

> Les

> #40643

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Read this topic online here:

> 

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424880#424880

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Propellor Redux

I see on MT website that they have seven MT service centers in Canada.

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New Smyrna Beach, FL

partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:19 pm Post subject: Propellor Redux

If not anything else, prop stike less likely because with the MT there's a lot more clearance.



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		   On Jun 15, 2014, at 10:30 AM, "kearney" <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:

 

 

 

 Hi

 

 I have been carefully weighing all the comments regarding the Hartzell / MT options for the -10. I really, really like the idea of the MT but am concerned about service issues that cause props to go back to German for repair.

 

 Has anyone had serious issues that have grounded them (other that prop strikes). 

 

 Is there a repair station in Canada/US that negates the need for a prop vacation to Germany?

 

 I am still leaning towards the Hartzell but really wish the decision was more clear cut.

 

 Cheers

 

 Les

 #40643

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424880#424880

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:51 pm Post subject: Propellor Redux

If you consider 2" a LOT more clearance. Hartzell is 80" diameter, MT 76".

Seems like outside of hitting a taxiway/runway light or doing a hard 

nose wheel first porpoise; prop strike should not be all that likely 

unless someone has designed a retract gear assembly.



On 6/15/2014 6:18 PM, Don Mc Donald wrote:

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 If not anything else, prop stike less likely because with the MT there's a lot more clearance.



 Sent from my iPad



> On Jun 15, 2014, at 10:30 AM, "kearney" <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:

>

> 

>

> Hi

>

> I have been carefully weighing all the comments regarding the Hartzell / MT options for the -10. I really, really like the idea of the MT but am concerned about service issues that cause props to go back to German for repair.

>

> Has anyone had serious issues that have grounded them (other that prop strikes).

>

> Is there a repair station in Canada/US that negates the need for a prop vacation to Germany?

>

> I am still leaning towards the Hartzell but really wish the decision was more clear cut.

>

> Cheers

>

> Les

> #40643

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424880#424880

>

>

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johngoodman

Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 530
Location: GA

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Propellor Redux

 	  Kellym wrote: 	
		  If you consider 2" a LOT more clearance. Hartzell is 80" diameter, MT 76".

Seems like outside of hitting a taxiway/runway light or doing a hard 

nose wheel first porpoise; prop strike should not be all that likely 

unless someone has designed a retract gear assembly.



	




Hmmm, the Hartzell Van shipped to me was 82". Is there something I need to know about?

John

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1705
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:08 pm Post subject: Propellor Redux

The only two Hartzell props Van's has in their catalog for O (IO)-540:

Compact hub Constant-speed prop for (I)O-540 (260hp) 80"

Part Number = PROP C2YR-1BFP/F8068D

Price = $7500.00



Three-blade Constant-speed prop for (I)O-540 (260hp) 78" dia

Part Number = PROP C3Y1R-1N/N7605C

Price = $16795.00

MT Prop:

(I)O-540, 76" only for 540 3 Blade, hydraulic pitch change

Part Number = PROP MTV12B/193-53

Price = $10500.00

On 6/16/2014 6:31 AM, johngoodman wrote:

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 Kellym wrote:

> If you consider 2" a LOT more clearance. Hartzell is 80" diameter, MT 76".

> Seems like outside of hitting a taxiway/runway light or doing a hard

> nose wheel first porpoise; prop strike should not be all that likely

> unless someone has designed a retract gear assembly.



 Hmmm, the Hartzell Van shipped to me was 82". Is there something I need to know about?

 John



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