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joel.carter131(at)GMAIL.C
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 Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:53 pm Post subject: Crew Door Safety |
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I know this must be a dumb question, but is there a foolproof safety device to prevent starting the left engine with the crew door ajar and to prevent opening the door with the engine turning?
Thanks,
Joel
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cloudcraft(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:07 pm Post subject: Crew Door Safety |
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Joel,
The Turbo Commanders have an electric lock that must be over-ridden if the engine is running.
The piston models depend on common sense. If you don't have a supply of that, you can subscribe to a Safety Management System, become IS-BAO 9000 certified and have a big fat manual with a specific procedure written to prevent yourself from opening the crew door with the engine running.
Either method will work.
Keith S Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.KHND RNAV Lead
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cloudcraft(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:10 pm Post subject: Crew Door Safety |
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In the interest of accuracy, the electric door lock is active when the Master Switch is on on the Turbo Commanders and the AC685. I know Sir Barry is watching ...
Keith S Gordon
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moe-rosspistons(at)hotmai
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:40 pm Post subject: Crew Door Safety |
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Joel,
To the best of my knowledge such a system does not exist. My plane has a plackard by the door window which advises that only the pilot is allowed to open, shut, or lock the door.
Regards,
Moe Mills
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Subject: Crew Door Safety
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 17:52:46 -0400
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I know this must be a dumb question, but is there a foolproof safety device to prevent starting the left engine with the crew door ajar and to prevent opening the door with the engine turning?
Thanks,
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wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.c
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:47 pm Post subject: Crew Door Safety |
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Keith,
Absolutely love your reply.
As we know, all too well, various “advanced” NAAs such as FAA and our CASA mandate the second option.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith S. Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:00 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Crew Door Safety
Joel,
The Turbo Commanders have an electric lock that must be over-ridden if the engine is running.
The piston models depend on common sense. If you don't have a supply of that, you can subscribe to a Safety Management System, become IS-BAO 9000 certified and have a big fat manual with a specific procedure written to prevent yourself from opening the crew door with the engine running.
Either method will work.
Keith S Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
KHND RNAV Lead
FAASTeam Lead Rep, Las Vegas
NBAA Access Committee
Las Vegas Airspace Users' Council, NBAA Rep
Las Vegas RNAV Optimization Work Group, NBAA Rep
Las Vegas Class B Redesign Committee, NBAA Rep
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Heron
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:57 am Post subject: Crew Door Safety |
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Not only the turbine commanders. My 685 had the same system.
The unlocking switch is the far right one on the overhead panel
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[quote] On 1 Jul 2014, at 5:48 pm, "William J Hamilton" <wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Keith,
Absolutely love your reply.
As we know, all too well, various “advanced” NAAs such as FAA and our CASA mandate the second option.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith S. Gordon
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:00 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Crew Door Safety
Joel,
The Turbo Commanders have an electric lock that must be over-ridden if the engine is running.
The piston models depend on common sense. If you don't have a supply of that, you can subscribe to a Safety Management System, become IS-BAO 9000 certified and have a big fat manual with a specific procedure written to prevent yourself from opening the crew door with the engine running.
Either method will work.
Keith S Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
KHND RNAV Lead
FAASTeam Lead Rep, Las Vegas
NBAA Access Committee
Las Vegas Airspace Users' Council, NBAA Rep
Las Vegas RNAV Optimization Work Group, NBAA Rep
Las Vegas Class B Redesign Committee, NBAA Rep
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