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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:38 pm    Post subject: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit. I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things. There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway. I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous. On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground. All these were made with full flaps. I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do. Hopefully you won't find it too boring.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:17 pm    Post subject: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

I did the same thing years back,,, got so I could set it down within 20 to 30 ft.   Every time.   Probably should do it again.    I liked the picture in picture.  What editing software?
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Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit.  I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things.   There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway.   I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous.   On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground.   All these were made with full flaps.  I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do.  Hopefully you won't find it too boring.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:52 pm    Post subject: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

Great looking bird.
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Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit. I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things. There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway. I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous. On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground. All these were made with full flaps. I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do. Hopefully you won't find it too boring.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:16 am    Post subject: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

That was very nice. Liked both the control panel, and the inset screen. Do more!

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Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit.  I
setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground
side of things.   There was basically no wind
at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the
threshold of the runway.   I seldom actually
hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end
and they make me nervous.   On all the
landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not
touched until I was on the ground.   All
these were made with full flaps.  I'm sharing this not
because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see,
but because it was fun to do.  Hopefully you won't find
it too boring.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit


Thanks,
Allan




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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:24 am    Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

I've used a number of editing software packages looking for one that is relatively easy to use and still has the features I want. I'm currently using Pinnacle Studio 17 largely because I had a friend who let me see his training video and I have come to like it pretty well but with these things I think it's mainly what you get used to. I tried Corel Video Studio, CyberLink PowerDirector, Avidemux and a few others. I think the Corel was probably the easiest but all of them seem to have strong and weak areas so when I actually purchased one I just chose one with the features I wanted and determined to spend the time to learn it. It's still a struggle because I don't use it often enough to stay up on everything. They all seem to take time to do a decent job and I'm still way back on that curve.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:42 am    Post subject: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

I liked your video, and thought that the instruments being visible when you were doing the landings was nice. For that particular video especially. With my intended applications, it wouldn't work. I guess what I liked about both your software and mine is the ability to record it in MPEG 4, which seems to be the sharpest format. Perhaps you can do some more videos soon. Smile Larry

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I've used a number of editing software packages looking for one that is relatively easy to use and still has the features I want.  I'm currently using Pinnacle Studio 17 largely because I had a friend who let me see his training video and I have come to like it pretty well but with these things I think it's mainly what you get used to.  I tried Corel Video Studio, CyberLink PowerDirector, Avidemux and a few others.  I think the Corel was probably the easiest but all of them seem to have strong and weak areas so when I actually purchased one I just chose one with the features I wanted and determined to spend the time to learn it.  It's still a struggle because I don't use it often enough to stay up on everything.  They all seem to take time to do a decent job and I'm still way back on that curve.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:03 am    Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

The GPS info is just an included file that is combined using the camera software prior to any other editing if desired. I actually think that for what I was trying to do that just a view of the flight instruments would have been more helpful but this looks cool.. lol.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:08 am    Post subject: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

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Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit. I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things. There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway. I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous. On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground. All these were made with full flaps. I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do. Hopefully you won't find it too boring.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit
Thanks,
Allan

Love the format. Seeing the cockpit view, flight data, and the ground

perspective at the same time is really nice.

On the subject of power lines, have you thought about contacting the
power company to have their 'orange balls' added to the lines? They will
probably try to charge you, but one of the original members of my
airpark pitched it this way: when they asked for payment, he pointed out
that the power company owned the lines, and if someone couldn't see them
& it caused a crash, the power company would be liable. They installed
the balls for free.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

Yes that has been discussed with the field management and I have made that suggestion myself. The portion of the field that I was landing on is not actually owned by the airport but is an extension which is privately owned. Typically I land on the 'actual' strip which is another 5 or 6 hundred feet further on. I think the balls would be a great thing to have in any case especially for folks trying to land there who aren't familiar with the place.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:30 am    Post subject: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

The old guys sideslipped before flaps
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Went out this morning and practiced landing a bit.  I setup a camera to see what it looked like from the ground side of things.   There was basically no wind at ground level and I placed the camera 400 feet from the threshold of the runway.   I seldom actually hit the threshold because there are power lines on that end and they make me nervous.   On all the landings power was set at idle on the downwind and not touched until I was on the ground.   All these were made with full flaps.  I'm sharing this not because I think I'm particularly good at it as you can see, but because it was fun to do.  Hopefully you won't find it too boring.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxdXwdWJkFExd2hiWE9fRDRjaXc/edit


Thanks,
Allan


Love the format. Seeing the cockpit view, flight data, and the ground perspective at the same time is really nice.

On the subject of power lines, have you thought about contacting the power company to have their 'orange balls' added to the lines? They will probably try to charge you, but one of the original members of my airpark pitched it this way: when they asked for payment, he pointed out that the power company owned the lines, and if someone couldn't see them & it caused a crash, the power company would be liable. They installed the balls for free.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

Allan,

May I ask what video app did you use to film your short field landings work with that gave real-time airspeed, track etc?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

I tried to find the boring part but was unable. I was surprised at the amount of tailwheeel flutter at 3:19. I guess that's why we use springs.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Short Field Landings Reply with quote

I thought it was an excellent video.. Thanks for sharing.. Smile

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