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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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 Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:03 am Post subject: My toggle switch quest... |
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At 09:09 AM 7/4/2014, you wrote:
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I'm searching for a two-position, momentary, DPDT, full size (panel mount, ideally with tab terminations but screws would be fine too) toggle switch and I have been unable to find one from Carling or others.
Do you know of a source? Is it in the Carling catalog and I'm just not seeing it? I'm having trouble believing it's not readily available but I'm just not seeing it...
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The Carling catalog is a convoluted thing . . . but
yes . . . what you want is in there.
[img]cid:7.1.0.9.0.20140706105559.04d5c338(at)aeroelectric.com.0[/img]
The part number works out to be 6GL5B-73 which you can find in
the top item listed at:
http://tinyurl.com/qyb4ck8
They have 94 in stock
Bob . . .
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wynaire(at)citlink.net
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:59 am Post subject: My toggle switch quest... |
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Thanks for the info, fellows. Timely, as usual! Just the place I needed to search for a replacement flap-switch for the yet unfinished [but close?] LNC2 dream-machine. Now to find the paddle-tab. Interesting how age becomes a threat to finishing, versus inspiration...
Mike
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:05 pm Post subject: My toggle switch quest... |
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At 03:47 PM 7/6/2014, you wrote:
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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:33 pm Post subject: My toggle switch quest... |
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Found this tabulation of Carling switches that makes it a bit
easier to identify a part number for our favorite series of
swtiches.
[img]cid:7.1.0.9.0.20140706173055.04e0d170(at)aeroelectric.com.1[/img]
Bob . . .
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JOHN TIPTON
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: My toggle switch quest... |
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Or: http://www.aerosportproducts.com/flapswitch.htm
Sent from my iPad
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On 6 Jul 2014, at 11:04 pm, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
[quote] At 03:47 PM 7/6/2014, you wrote:
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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: My toggle switch quest... |
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At 05:36 PM 7/6/2014, you wrote:
Good find . . . OOPS . . .just remembered.
If you're going to do a DIY flap switch,
you need a toggle switch with a captive
handle. It needs to pivot on a shaft so
that the flap tab stays oriented horizontally.
The Carling switches have ball-joints on their
metal 'bat' handles and will spin.
The Microswitch part for this application is
a 2TL1-5
http://tinyurl.com/n67zy9z
. . . which is a bit pricey . . . the prefab
assembly from aero sport products starts
looking like a pretty good deal.
Bob . . . [quote][b]
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fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:22 pm Post subject: My toggle switch quest... |
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Is that flap looking like switch a requirement for certified aircraft? I never really understood why one would pay so much for a switch that "sort" of looks like a flap. In fact, the first few airplanes I flew had them but I never really thought of it as looking like a flap. It's just what flap switches look like. I guess I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
BTW, Does this mean there are meanings for the shapes of the pitch and mixture knobs too? About to feel even dumber.
Bevan
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 3:58 PM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: My toggle switch quest...
At 05:36 PM 7/6/2014, you wrote:
Good find . . . OOPS . . .just remembered.
If you're going to do a DIY flap switch,
you need a toggle switch with a captive
handle. It needs to pivot on a shaft so
that the flap tab stays oriented horizontally.
The Carling switches have ball-joints on their
metal 'bat' handles and will spin.
The Microswitch part for this application is
a 2TL1-5
http://tinyurl.com/n67zy9z
. . . which is a bit pricey . . . the prefab
assembly from aero sport products starts
looking like a pretty good deal.
Bob . . . [quote]
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email(at)jaredyates.com
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:34 pm Post subject: My toggle switch quest... |
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I figured the pointy bits on the mixture knob were there to remind me of pointy flames, while the rounded bits on the prop knob were there to remind me of what most prop tips look like when they aren't shortened. Maybe that's just me imprinting my own meaning though. I suppose it doesn't matter what the shapes actually are, as long as they are different enough that I can identify them by feel.
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 8:21 PM, B Tomm <fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net (fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net)> wrote:
[quote] Is that flap looking like switch a requirement for certified aircraft? I never really understood why one would pay so much for a switch that "sort" of looks like a flap. In fact, the first few airplanes I flew had them but I never really thought of it as looking like a flap. It's just what flap switches look like. I guess I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
BTW, Does this mean there are meanings for the shapes of the pitch and mixture knobs too? About to feel even dumber.
Bevan
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:55 pm Post subject: My toggle switch quest... |
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At 07:21 PM 7/6/2014, you wrote:
| Quote: | Is that flap looking like switch a requirement for certified aircraft? I never really understood why one would pay so much for a switch that "sort" of looks like a flap. In fact, the first few airplanes I flew had them but I never really thought of it as looking like a flap. It's just what flap switches look like. I guess I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
BTW, Does this mean there are meanings for the shapes of the pitch and mixture knobs too? About to feel even dumber. |
Yes, attention has been paid to human factors
in cockpit design and layout since day-one . . .
although the earliest efforts just made sure
the pilot could reach the rudder pedals.
Since the Wright brother's days, the list
of noteworthy concerns has grown both
as a matter of policy and regulation. Same
thing goes on with cars and other machines.
The list of 'good things to do' necessarily
includes controls for shape, colors, locations
and forces needed to operate them.
Bottom line is that while not required for
your OMAM aircraft, it's a good thing not
to depart greatly from legacy cockpit
design philosophies . . . if only to make
your airplane less risky for the next pilot
who owns it.
Somewhere in the archives I have a copy of
the cert plan for a couple of airplanes.
They are lengthy documents and touch on
hundreds of things seldom considered in
OBAM aircraft. I'll see if I can find
one and publish . . . interesting reading.
Bob . . . [quote][b]
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JOHN TIPTON
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:08 pm Post subject: My toggle switch quest... |
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Tom: you forgot to mention the colour of the knobs too
Sent from my iPad
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On 7 Jul 2014, at 01:21 am, "B Tomm" <fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net (fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net)> wrote:
[quote] Is that flap looking like switch a requirement for certified aircraft? I never really understood why one would pay so much for a switch that "sort" of looks like a flap. In fact, the first few airplanes I flew had them but I never really thought of it as looking like a flap. It's just what flap switches look like. I guess I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
BTW, Does this mean there are meanings for the shapes of the pitch and mixture knobs too? About to feel even dumber.
Bevan
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 3:58 PM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: My toggle switch quest...
At 05:36 PM 7/6/2014, you wrote:
Good find . . . OOPS . . .just remembered.
If you're going to do a DIY flap switch,
you need a toggle switch with a captive
handle. It needs to pivot on a shaft so
that the flap tab stays oriented horizontally.
The Carling switches have ball-joints on their
metal 'bat' handles and will spin.
The Microswitch part for this application is
a 2TL1-5
http://tinyurl.com/n67zy9z
. . . which is a bit pricey . . . the prefab
assembly from aero sport products starts
looking like a pretty good deal.
Bob . . .
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