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alienwes
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 Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:17 pm Post subject: Kolb STOL |
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Can a Kolb Mark 3 take off like other STOL aircraft? I have been watching youtube videos on short takeoffs. Lots of Zenith, Kitfox, and Cubs. Is is just because their are less Kolb out there?
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John Hauck
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:47 am Post subject: Kolb STOL |
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This is not a take off, but a short field landing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMYsdarPcnY
Here's a takeoff and landing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXmqZBeWOrs
Kolbs are great super STOL aircraft.
john h
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Rifle, Colorado
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Frankd
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb STOL |
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Hi Wesley
My MkIII Xtra only has a Jabiru 2200 80HP motor but with one person I routinely take off in 300 feet and land in 400 or less. I'm sure with a 912 100HP it would take off in less.
That by most would be good STOL.
When I was getting to know the plane and I tried full flaps and engine at idle I quite surprised my self at the decent angle to keep 55 MPH, it felt like I was standing on the rudder pedals and going straight down.. as soon as you get to 5 feet over the runway level off and the speed goes AWAY. But I soon got to love that approach, stay at 500Ft on final until just short of the runaway and then drop in..
With two people its a different aircraft and I fly it faster 60MPH , all the way to touchdown, so that I can maintain good flare control on landing, but its still slows down very quickly.
One thing that is interesting is that with the high pusher configuration you can pull back on the stick , full throttle, and it will stall, but the engine pushes the nose over and it starts flying again and climbs, stalls, nose pushed forward, climbs, etc..etc.. That is a great design feature that gives you some interesting climb out angles, if you dare..
YEP... stol.
Frankd
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alienwes
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb STOL |
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John, thanks for the links to your videos. I bet your were off the ground in under 200 feet. Is that a 912 100 hp?
Frank, thanks for sharing your experiences and how you shoot approaches.
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John Hauck
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:45 am Post subject: Kolb STOL |
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Wes:
Yes, 100hp 912ULS.
Those of us that have flown the Kolbs a bit forget what it
is like to fly other aircraft. We get used to the great
performance and forgiving attitude Homer Kolb designed into
them.
john h
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:24 am Post subject: Kolb STOL |
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full throttle, and it will stall, but the engine pushes the nose over and
it starts flying again.>>. You dont need full throttle to do that. Works
just a as well at idle or cruise unless you have a very strange C of G of
course. Pat
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