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 Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:33 am Post subject: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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Looking for a landing gear strut on kolb M 3 xtra. 33" L X 1-3/8 " Dia. Chrome Molly.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:07 am Post subject: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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I have a right side steel landing gear strut for a Kolb Mk III. I beleve
it is the same as in the Extra although it was used in a classic. It is
1-1/3 in in dia. and hardened 4130 steel.
Ron
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barry9315
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:03 am Post subject: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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Sounds perfect. do u mean 1-3/8 " dia? Is it about 33" long?
I believe they can be used on either side. what do want for it?
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lcottrell
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:59 am Post subject: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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Why not contact Travis (at)Kolb for the strut that you need. I am pretty sure that he can fix you up, and you can be assured that the one that you do get will be new and will fit as well.Just a thought,
LarryÂ
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:05 am Post subject: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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i am ready to taxi test and crow hop a firefly I would like to talk on the phone to some firefly pilots please call me for some advise i have owned a fire star and a mk2 and have over 1,200 hrs in lite planes and flew a fire fly a couple times several years ago, please call somebody
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:09 am Post subject: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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Thanks much
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:18 am Post subject: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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Dont do it. If it will fly get well clear of the ground,do some stalls to fix a landing speed. 1200 hours in Light planes will not prepare you for the way a Kolb will lose flying speed when you close the throttle.There is no inertia like a `normal` plane. She will just stop. Keep a trickle of power on right down to the ground, inches, not feet .Hold her off with progressive back stick and she will settle beautifully.
Pat
From: Malcolm Brubaker (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:05 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra
i am ready to taxi test and crow hop a firefly I would like to talk on the phone to some firefly pilots please call me for some advise i have owned a fire star and a mk2 and have over 1,200 hrs in lite planes and flew a fire fly a couple times several years ago, please call somebody
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:51 AM
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Need left seat pilot side strut. can you take photo and text it me or email. 843-566-3104?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:27 am Post subject: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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Patrick L/Kolbers:
Quit trying to scare new FF pilots. If one is half a pilot he probably has enough aptitude to maintain airspeed, airspeed over altitude.
The FF will not stop if power is retarded, and it does have inertia, just not as much as a heavier, cleaner aircraft. The FF is a normal Kolb aircraft.
Only thing abnormal about Kolbs is the pilots.
john h
mkIII
Conway, Arkansas
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pat Ladd
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:18 AM
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Dont do it. If it will fly get well clear of the ground,do some stalls to fix a landing speed. 1200 hours in Light planes will not prepare you for the way a Kolb will lose flying speed when you close the throttle.There is no inertia like a `normal` plane. She will just stop. Keep a trickle of power on right down to the ground, inches, not feet .Hold her off with progressive back stick and she will settle beautifully.
Pat
From: Malcolm Brubaker (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:05 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra
i am ready to taxi test and crow hop a firefly I would like to talk on the phone to some firefly pilots please call me for some advise i have owned a fire star and a mk2 and have over 1,200 hrs in lite planes and flew a fire fly a couple times several years ago, please call somebody
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
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Need left seat pilot side strut. can you take photo and text it me or email. 843-566-3104?
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:51 pm Post subject: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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John I have to side wit Pat. I thought he gave Malcolm some sound advice. The Kolb Quit is real. With all that flat plat drag airspeed bleeds fast when the throttle is cut. My M3xtra has a single control stick. I made the mistake of letting my best friend try to land it (an ATP with 8500 hrs). I warned him the best I could, but at 3 foot he chopped the power and tried to land it like a Cessna. Airspeed instantly bled off and we hit hard. I had to replace the right landing gear. I've found if I carry power till the wheels touch, I never have a problem.
Scott Hudson
N424AL
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Patrick L/Kolbers:
Quit trying to scare new FF pilots. If one is half a pilot he probably has enough aptitude to maintain airspeed, airspeed over altitude.
The FF will not stop if power is retarded, and it does have inertia, just not as much as a heavier, cleaner aircraft. The FF is a normal Kolb aircraft.
Only thing abnormal about Kolbs is the pilots.
john h
mkIII
Conway, Arkansas
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Pat Ladd
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:18 AM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra
Dont do it. If it will fly get well clear of the ground,do some stalls to fix a landing speed. 1200 hours in Light planes will not prepare you for the way a Kolb will lose flying speed when you close the throttle.There is no inertia like a `normal` plane. She will just stop. Keep a trickle of power on right down to the ground, inches, not feet .Hold her off with progressive back stick and she will settle beautifully.
Pat
From: Malcolm Brubaker (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:05 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra
i am ready to taxi test and crow hop a firefly I would like to talk on the phone to some firefly pilots please call me for some advise i have owned a fire star and a mk2 and have over 1,200 hrs in lite planes and flew a fire fly a couple times several years ago, please call somebody
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
From: barry9315 <barbob5742(at)gmail.com (barbob5742(at)gmail.com)>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:51 AM
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Need left seat pilot side strut. can you take photo and text it me or email. 843-566-3104?
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George Alexander
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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| colin.scott.hudson(at)gma wrote: | John I have to side wit Pat. I thought he gave Malcolm some sound advice.
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i am ready to taxi test and crow hop a firefly I would like to talk on the phone to some firefly pilots please call me for some advise � i have owned a fire star and a mk2 and have over 1,200 hrs in lite planes and flew a fire fly a couple times several years ago,� please call somebody
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What may have been overlooked from Malcolm's original post is that he has owned (and I assume flown some of those 1200 hours) in a Firestar and a MK 2. The FireFly will be only slightly different in handling on landing than the Firestar.
A hundred hours in other Kolbs prepares one to land a FireFly much better than thousands of hours in heavier aircraft.
IMO...
Worth what you paid for it.
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John Hauck
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:01 pm Post subject: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra |
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Learn to fly the airplane, no matter what it is.
Without power, engine at idle, try landing the airplane on the ground, not three feet in the air. This maneuver does not take power to accomplish and the Kolb, no matter what model, will not fall out of the air, e.g., "Kolb quit", unless it gets below stall speed. All fixed wing airplanes quit flying when they get below stall speed. We keep our Kolbs above stall speed by pushing the nose down, maintaining airspeed above stall.Â
Again, learn to fly the airplane.
Your friend should be aware, when he is flying a Kolb, not to try to fly it like a Cessna. An ATP with 8500 hours, he should know how to fly by now.
I have been flying Kolbs for 30 years as of this month. I taught myself to fly fixed wing aircraft, a Kolb Ultrastar, the first of three Kolbs I built and flew. I still fly my MKIII. My first fixed wing flight was also my test flight for the Ultrastar. Did pretty good on the first landing. No "Kolb quit". Not bad for a newbie, but ran out of cow pasture before I had finished my landing roll (no brakes installed). These little Kolbs are easy to fly, forgiving, with no real surprises, unless one quits flying at 3 feet when they are attempting to land.
Kolbs do not stop flying when power is reduced to idle. As a matter of fact, Kolbs are great fun to fly dead stick. They really handle well. Makes good practice for the time when the engine stops.
john h
mkIII
Memphis, Tennessee
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin Hudson
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:51 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra
John I have to side wit Pat. I thought he gave Malcolm some sound advice. The Kolb Quit is real. With all that flat plat drag airspeed bleeds fast when the throttle is cut. My M3xtra has a single control stick. I made the mistake of letting my best friend try to land it (an ATP with 8500 hrs). I warned him the best I could, but at 3 foot he chopped the power and tried to land it like a Cessna. Airspeed instantly bled off and we hit hard. I had to replace the right landing gear. I've found if I carry power till the wheels touch, I never have a problem.
Scott Hudson
N424AL
ATP/CFII
10,200+
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2014, at 2:26 PM, "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:
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Quit trying to scare new FF pilots. If one is half a pilot he probably has enough aptitude to maintain airspeed, airspeed over altitude.
The FF will not stop if power is retarded, and it does have inertia, just not as much as a heavier, cleaner aircraft. The FF is a normal Kolb aircraft. Â
Only thing abnormal about Kolbs is the pilots.
john h
mkIII
Conway, Arkansas
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Pat Ladd
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:18 AM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra
Dont do it. If it will fly get well clear of the ground,do some stalls to fix a landing speed. 1200 hours in Light planes will not prepare you for the way a Kolb will lose flying speed when you close the throttle.There is no inertia like a `normal` plane. She will just stop. Keep a trickle of power on right down to the ground, inches, not feet .Hold her off with progressive back stick and she will settle beautifully.
Pat
From: Malcolm Brubaker (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 5:05 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra
i am ready to taxi test and crow hop a firefly I would like to talk on the phone to some firefly pilots please call me for some advise i have owned a fire star and a mk2 and have over 1,200 hrs in lite planes and flew a fire fly a couple times several years ago, please call somebody
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com
LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
for Ultralight & Light Sport
(989)513-3022
From: barry9315 <barbob5742(at)gmail.com (barbob5742(at)gmail.com)>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: looking for a landing gear strut on on kolb M 3 xtra
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Need left seat pilot side strut. can you take photo and text it me or email. 843-566-3104?
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