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 Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:59 am Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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Hi all,
Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my 52. Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
Thanks,
Kind regards
Havard Dale
Norway
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I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
BR,
Jan
On 27/08/14 19:57, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
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<havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
Hi all,
Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my 52.
Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
Thanks,
Kind regards
Havard Dale
Norway
Sendt fra min iPad
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:45 am Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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Hi Jan,
Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or b. Problem is the dimension on depth.
Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is that it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
| Quote: | Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
BR,
Jan
> On 27/08/14 19:57, "HÃ¥vard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
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> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
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> Hi all,
>
> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my 52.
> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>
> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kind regards
> Havard Dale
> Norway
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:03 am Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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Check out the new 8.33 Dynon radio...
Bear
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Viperdoc
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:19 am Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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No kidding! My Becker has gotten to the point that can hardly hear what I receive. Have tried shielding all of the incoming wiring and even thought about shielding the case.
Doc
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| Quote: | On Aug 27, 2014, at 1:44 PM, HÃ¥vard Dale <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
Hi Jan,
Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or b. Problem is the dimension on depth.
Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is that it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
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> I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
> Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
> I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
>
> BR,
>
> Jan
>
>> On 27/08/14 19:57, "HÃ¥vard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my 52.
>> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>>
>> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Havard Dale
>> Norway
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPad
>>
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:52 pm Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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Check and fix your antenna cable, make sure the shielding is good and the
connections are not corroded and are tight. Also make sure the antenna base
is bonded to the aircraft skin.
Frank
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:45 pm Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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I am perfectly satisfied with the Funkwerk, it is very good.
I'm also co-owner of a Yak 52. In the Yak 52 I installed the small Becker
with the PM1200 for intercom.
This also works flawlessly.
But I also replaced the complete cabling (audio cables, push-to-talk
cables, antenna cables).
If you have noise on the Becker, then you should look at the cabling.
Also: I connected all the mass cables on one point for a common mass and
made also sure that this mass point is well connected to the battery.
Verifying and replacing the cables is quite a job of course, but not so
difficult.
You should check the cables before replacing the Becker.
BR,
Jan
PS: consider buying the wiring harness offered as an option with the radio
or the PM 1200. It's generally of a very good quality.
On 27/08/14 20:44, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
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<havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
Hi Jan,
Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or b.
Problem is the dimension on depth.
Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is that
it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
>
>
>
> I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
> Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
> I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
>
> BR,
>
> Jan
>
>> On 27/08/14 19:57, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my
>>52.
>> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>>
>> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Havard Dale
>> Norway
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPad
>>
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>>>Indexes
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>>> 1. 08:21 AM - Re: Air system Flush (Todd McCutchan)
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:05 am Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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Jan,
I also have the small Becker radio in my CJ, in addition to a Garmin SL-30 as my primary radio. Liked it so much, I replaced my transponder with a one by Becker. In spite of their small size, these are very high quality radios.
The PMA4000 intercom/audio panel by PS Engineering matches the size and appearance of the Becker products and installs in a 2 Πinch hole. A nice solution to the problem of limited space.
Zero problems with noise, or interference.
Warren Hill
N464TW
Mesa, AZ
On Aug 27, 2014, at 10:43 PM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> wrote:
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I am perfectly satisfied with the Funkwerk, it is very good.
I'm also co-owner of a Yak 52. In the Yak 52 I installed the small Becker
with the PM1200 for intercom.
This also works flawlessly.
But I also replaced the complete cabling (audio cables, push-to-talk
cables, antenna cables).
If you have noise on the Becker, then you should look at the cabling.
Also: I connected all the mass cables on one point for a common mass and
made also sure that this mass point is well connected to the battery.
Verifying and replacing the cables is quite a job of course, but not so
difficult.
You should check the cables before replacing the Becker.
BR,
Jan
PS: consider buying the wiring harness offered as an option with the radio
or the PM 1200. It's generally of a very good quality.
On 27/08/14 20:44, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>
> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or b.
> Problem is the dimension on depth.
>
> Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is that
> it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
>
> BR
> Havard
>
>
>
> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>
>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
>> Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
>> I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>> On 27/08/14 19:57, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my
>>> 52.
>>> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>>>
>>> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Havard Dale
>>> Norway
>>>
>>> Sendt fra min iPad
>>>
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>>>> formatted
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>>>> Indexes
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>>>> 1. 08:21 AM - Re: Air system Flush (Todd McCutchan)
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Almost next to impossible to fix this problem a Becker Doc. Sell it to a glider pilot. He'll love it.
Mark
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:14 am Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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Copy Mark. Got some glider types trying to populate our airport! Will make them a deal. Sadly I have two!
Doc
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[quote] On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:13 AM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich(at)navy.mil> wrote:
Almost next to impossible to fix this problem a Becker Doc. Sell it to a glider pilot. He'll love it.
Mark
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:29 am Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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Jan, I did get the wiring harness with the radio. Using A/C grade RG 56 cable I believe. Forget who made the antenna but nothing had been a problem until I went to Taylor plug wires then all hell has gradually evolved.
Now this noise is not throttle setting related but with the engine turned off it receives quit clearly? I know, kill the engine to receive! ;^0
Doc
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| Quote: | On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> wrote:
I am perfectly satisfied with the Funkwerk, it is very good.
I'm also co-owner of a Yak 52. In the Yak 52 I installed the small Becker
with the PM1200 for intercom.
This also works flawlessly.
But I also replaced the complete cabling (audio cables, push-to-talk
cables, antenna cables).
If you have noise on the Becker, then you should look at the cabling.
Also: I connected all the mass cables on one point for a common mass and
made also sure that this mass point is well connected to the battery.
Verifying and replacing the cables is quite a job of course, but not so
difficult.
You should check the cables before replacing the Becker.
BR,
Jan
PS: consider buying the wiring harness offered as an option with the radio
or the PM 1200. It's generally of a very good quality.
> On 27/08/14 20:44, "HÃ¥vard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>
>
> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or b.
> Problem is the dimension on depth.
>
> Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is that
> it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
>
> BR
> Havard
>
>
>
> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>
>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
>> Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
>> I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>> On 27/08/14 19:57, "HÃ¥vard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my
>>> 52.
>>> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>>>
>>> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Havard Dale
>>> Norway
>>>
>>> Sendt fra min iPad
>>>
>>>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 09:02 skrev Yak-List Digest Server
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>>>> formatted
>>>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
>>>> Indexes
>>>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII
>>>> version
>>>> of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>>>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
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>>>> HTML Version:
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Well, I also had more noise when I installed the Taylor plug wires, but
then I still had the original Russian radio (a Briz).
Uninstalling the 8mm cables was not an option, so I replaced the Briz by a
Becker.
I took the time to replace ALL the radio wiring (audio, mike,
push-to-talk, antenna, power supply) and also paid attention to have a
good, common earth connection.
I'm far from a specialist in avionics (Mark is the real specialist). So I
suppose I was lucky.
Afterwards I replaced the Becker by a Funkwerk ATR833 because I wanted an
8.33 kHz separation and the Funkwerk was a good buy for the money.
Then I installed my "old" Becker + a PM1200 on our Yak 52.
There too I replaced ALL the audio wiring and made sure to have one
single, good earthing connection point.
I don't claim that this is the better way to do it (Mark?) but it worked
for me.
Our Yak 52 also has Dennis' plug wires.
The installation on my Yak 50 (including my Garrecht transponder) is
checked and approved by a specialized EASA 145 company (imposed by the
French CAA).
BR,
Jan
On 28/08/14 19:29, "Roger Kemp" <f16viperdoc(at)me.com> wrote:
| Quote: |
Jan, I did get the wiring harness with the radio. Using A/C grade RG 56
cable I believe. Forget who made the antenna but nothing had been a
problem until I went to Taylor plug wires then all hell has gradually
evolved.
Now this noise is not throttle setting related but with the engine turned
off it receives quit clearly? I know, kill the engine to receive! ;^0
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> wrote:
>
>
>
> I am perfectly satisfied with the Funkwerk, it is very good.
> I'm also co-owner of a Yak 52. In the Yak 52 I installed the small
>Becker
> with the PM1200 for intercom.
> This also works flawlessly.
> But I also replaced the complete cabling (audio cables, push-to-talk
> cables, antenna cables).
> If you have noise on the Becker, then you should look at the cabling.
> Also: I connected all the mass cables on one point for a common mass and
> made also sure that this mass point is well connected to the battery.
>
> Verifying and replacing the cables is quite a job of course, but not so
> difficult.
> You should check the cables before replacing the Becker.
>
> BR,
>
> Jan
>
> PS: consider buying the wiring harness offered as an option with the
>radio
> or the PM 1200. It's generally of a very good quality.
>
>
>
>> On 27/08/14 20:44, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or b.
>> Problem is the dimension on depth.
>>
>> Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is
>>that
>> it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
>>
>> BR
>> Havard
>>
>>
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>
>>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
>>> Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
>>> I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>> On 27/08/14 19:57, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my
>>>> 52.
>>>> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>>>>
>>>> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Havard Dale
>>>> Norway
>>>>
>>>> Sendt fra min iPad
>>>>
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:03 am Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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Considering the fact that my 50 is pulled apart to rebuild. Right now is a good time to replace wiring. Now all I need is time to get this done.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
| Quote: | On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> wrote:
Well, I also had more noise when I installed the Taylor plug wires, but
then I still had the original Russian radio (a Briz).
Uninstalling the 8mm cables was not an option, so I replaced the Briz by a
Becker.
I took the time to replace ALL the radio wiring (audio, mike,
push-to-talk, antenna, power supply) and also paid attention to have a
good, common earth connection.
I'm far from a specialist in avionics (Mark is the real specialist). So I
suppose I was lucky.
Afterwards I replaced the Becker by a Funkwerk ATR833 because I wanted an
8.33 kHz separation and the Funkwerk was a good buy for the money.
Then I installed my "old" Becker + a PM1200 on our Yak 52.
There too I replaced ALL the audio wiring and made sure to have one
single, good earthing connection point.
I don't claim that this is the better way to do it (Mark?) but it worked
for me.
Our Yak 52 also has Dennis' plug wires.
The installation on my Yak 50 (including my Garrecht transponder) is
checked and approved by a specialized EASA 145 company (imposed by the
French CAA).
BR,
Jan
> On 28/08/14 19:29, "Roger Kemp" <f16viperdoc(at)me.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Jan, I did get the wiring harness with the radio. Using A/C grade RG 56
> cable I believe. Forget who made the antenna but nothing had been a
> problem until I went to Taylor plug wires then all hell has gradually
> evolved.
> Now this noise is not throttle setting related but with the engine turned
> off it receives quit clearly? I know, kill the engine to receive! ;^0
>
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am perfectly satisfied with the Funkwerk, it is very good.
>> I'm also co-owner of a Yak 52. In the Yak 52 I installed the small
>> Becker
>> with the PM1200 for intercom.
>> This also works flawlessly.
>> But I also replaced the complete cabling (audio cables, push-to-talk
>> cables, antenna cables).
>> If you have noise on the Becker, then you should look at the cabling.
>> Also: I connected all the mass cables on one point for a common mass and
>> made also sure that this mass point is well connected to the battery.
>>
>> Verifying and replacing the cables is quite a job of course, but not so
>> difficult.
>> You should check the cables before replacing the Becker.
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> PS: consider buying the wiring harness offered as an option with the
>> radio
>> or the PM 1200. It's generally of a very good quality.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 27/08/14 20:44, "HÃ¥vard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>
>>> Hi Jan,
>>>
>>> Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or b.
>>> Problem is the dimension on depth.
>>>
>>> Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is
>>> that
>>> it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
>>>
>>> BR
>>> Havard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>
>>>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
>>>> Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
>>>> I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
>>>>
>>>> BR,
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/08/14 19:57, "HÃ¥vard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my
>>>>> 52.
>>>>> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Havard Dale
>>>>> Norway
>>>>>
>>>>> Sendt fra min iPad
>>>>>
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:07 am Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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Jan, Doc,
As you know we have tested a Becker radio (the 25kHz spacing one) in the
workshop of my company. The Becker is simply not designed for such a
noisy(from electromagnetic field point of view) as the Yak52. It's been
designed for glider operation. It took me all kinds of tricks to get it free
of noise, I finally achieved it though but I am still going to change to a
new Funkwerk because we have to have 8.33kHz spacing anyway as of the first
of jan 2017.
I'd change to a Funkwerk and have the wiring completely redone with proper
screening, common earth etc.
Hans O.
PH-YAK
Op 28-08-14 19:49, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> schreef:
| Quote: |
Well, I also had more noise when I installed the Taylor plug wires, but
then I still had the original Russian radio (a Briz).
Uninstalling the 8mm cables was not an option, so I replaced the Briz by a
Becker.
I took the time to replace ALL the radio wiring (audio, mike,
push-to-talk, antenna, power supply) and also paid attention to have a
good, common earth connection.
I'm far from a specialist in avionics (Mark is the real specialist). So I
suppose I was lucky.
Afterwards I replaced the Becker by a Funkwerk ATR833 because I wanted an
8.33 kHz separation and the Funkwerk was a good buy for the money.
Then I installed my "old" Becker + a PM1200 on our Yak 52.
There too I replaced ALL the audio wiring and made sure to have one
single, good earthing connection point.
I don't claim that this is the better way to do it (Mark?) but it worked
for me.
Our Yak 52 also has Dennis' plug wires.
The installation on my Yak 50 (including my Garrecht transponder) is
checked and approved by a specialized EASA 145 company (imposed by the
French CAA).
BR,
Jan
On 28/08/14 19:29, "Roger Kemp" <f16viperdoc(at)me.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jan, I did get the wiring harness with the radio. Using A/C grade RG 56
> cable I believe. Forget who made the antenna but nothing had been a
> problem until I went to Taylor plug wires then all hell has gradually
> evolved.
> Now this noise is not throttle setting related but with the engine turned
> off it receives quit clearly? I know, kill the engine to receive! ;^0
>
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am perfectly satisfied with the Funkwerk, it is very good.
>> I'm also co-owner of a Yak 52. In the Yak 52 I installed the small
>> Becker
>> with the PM1200 for intercom.
>> This also works flawlessly.
>> But I also replaced the complete cabling (audio cables, push-to-talk
>> cables, antenna cables).
>> If you have noise on the Becker, then you should look at the cabling.
>> Also: I connected all the mass cables on one point for a common mass and
>> made also sure that this mass point is well connected to the battery.
>>
>> Verifying and replacing the cables is quite a job of course, but not so
>> difficult.
>> You should check the cables before replacing the Becker.
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> PS: consider buying the wiring harness offered as an option with the
>> radio
>> or the PM 1200. It's generally of a very good quality.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 27/08/14 20:44, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>
>>> Hi Jan,
>>>
>>> Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or b.
>>> Problem is the dimension on depth.
>>>
>>> Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is
>>> that
>>> it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
>>>
>>> BR
>>> Havard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>
>>>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
>>>> Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
>>>> I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
>>>>
>>>> BR,
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/08/14 19:57, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my
>>>>> 52.
>>>>> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Havard Dale
>>>>> Norway
>>>>>
>>>>> Sendt fra min iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 09:02 skrev Yak-List Digest Server
>>>>>> <yak-list(at)matronics.com>:
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ==================================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the
>>>>>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest
>>>>>> formatted
>>>>>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
>>>>>> Indexes
>>>>>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>>>>>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Ch
>>>>>> ap
>>>>>> ter 14-08-26&Archive=Yak
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:28 am Post subject: Recomanded radio for Yak 52 |
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Will the Funkwerk interchange with the 2.5 in panel hole Becker is occupying currently?
Doc
Sent from my iPad
| Quote: | On Aug 28, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Hans Oortman <pa3arw(at)ziggo.nl> wrote:
Jan, Doc,
As you know we have tested a Becker radio (the 25kHz spacing one) in the
workshop of my company. The Becker is simply not designed for such a
noisy(from electromagnetic field point of view) as the Yak52. It's been
designed for glider operation. It took me all kinds of tricks to get it free
of noise, I finally achieved it though but I am still going to change to a
new Funkwerk because we have to have 8.33kHz spacing anyway as of the first
of jan 2017.
I'd change to a Funkwerk and have the wiring completely redone with proper
screening, common earth etc.
Hans O.
PH-YAK
Op 28-08-14 19:49, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> schreef:
>
>
> Well, I also had more noise when I installed the Taylor plug wires, but
> then I still had the original Russian radio (a Briz).
>
> Uninstalling the 8mm cables was not an option, so I replaced the Briz by a
> Becker.
>
> I took the time to replace ALL the radio wiring (audio, mike,
> push-to-talk, antenna, power supply) and also paid attention to have a
> good, common earth connection.
>
> I'm far from a specialist in avionics (Mark is the real specialist). So I
> suppose I was lucky.
>
> Afterwards I replaced the Becker by a Funkwerk ATR833 because I wanted an
> 8.33 kHz separation and the Funkwerk was a good buy for the money.
>
> Then I installed my "old" Becker + a PM1200 on our Yak 52.
>
> There too I replaced ALL the audio wiring and made sure to have one
> single, good earthing connection point.
>
> I don't claim that this is the better way to do it (Mark?) but it worked
> for me.
>
> Our Yak 52 also has Dennis' plug wires.
>
> The installation on my Yak 50 (including my Garrecht transponder) is
> checked and approved by a specialized EASA 145 company (imposed by the
> French CAA).
>
>
> BR,
>
> Jan
>
>
>
>> On 28/08/14 19:29, "Roger Kemp" <f16viperdoc(at)me.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Jan, I did get the wiring harness with the radio. Using A/C grade RG 56
>> cable I believe. Forget who made the antenna but nothing had been a
>> problem until I went to Taylor plug wires then all hell has gradually
>> evolved.
>> Now this noise is not throttle setting related but with the engine turned
>> off it receives quit clearly? I know, kill the engine to receive! ;^0
>>
>> Doc
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am perfectly satisfied with the Funkwerk, it is very good.
>>> I'm also co-owner of a Yak 52. In the Yak 52 I installed the small
>>> Becker
>>> with the PM1200 for intercom.
>>> This also works flawlessly.
>>> But I also replaced the complete cabling (audio cables, push-to-talk
>>> cables, antenna cables).
>>> If you have noise on the Becker, then you should look at the cabling.
>>> Also: I connected all the mass cables on one point for a common mass and
>>> made also sure that this mass point is well connected to the battery.
>>>
>>> Verifying and replacing the cables is quite a job of course, but not so
>>> difficult.
>>> You should check the cables before replacing the Becker.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>> PS: consider buying the wiring harness offered as an option with the
>>> radio
>>> or the PM 1200. It's generally of a very good quality.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 27/08/14 20:44, "HÃ¥vard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>
>>>> Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or b.
>>>> Problem is the dimension on depth.
>>>>
>>>> Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is
>>>> that
>>>> it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>> Havard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>>
>>>>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
>>>>> Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
>>>>> I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
>>>>>
>>>>> BR,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/08/14 19:57, "HÃ¥vard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my
>>>>>> 52.
>>>>>> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>> Havard Dale
>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sendt fra min iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 09:02 skrev Yak-List Digest Server
>>>>>>> <yak-list(at)matronics.com>:
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>>>>>>> ==================================================
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the
>>>>>>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest
>>>>>>> formatted
>>>>>>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
>>>>>>> Indexes
>>>>>>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII
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Anyone have a URL for Funkwerks? When I google it here in the colonies I get a Brewery in Fort Collins, Colorado that brews a Belgium Ale??!
Doc
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| Quote: | On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc(at)me.com> wrote:
Jan, I did get the wiring harness with the radio. Using A/C grade RG 56 cable I believe. Forget who made the antenna but nothing had been a problem until I went to Taylor plug wires then all hell has gradually evolved.
Now this noise is not throttle setting related but with the engine turned off it receives quit clearly? I know, kill the engine to receive! ;^0
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> wrote:
>
>
>
> I am perfectly satisfied with the Funkwerk, it is very good.
> I'm also co-owner of a Yak 52. In the Yak 52 I installed the small Becker
> with the PM1200 for intercom.
> This also works flawlessly.
> But I also replaced the complete cabling (audio cables, push-to-talk
> cables, antenna cables).
> If you have noise on the Becker, then you should look at the cabling.
> Also: I connected all the mass cables on one point for a common mass and
> made also sure that this mass point is well connected to the battery.
>
> Verifying and replacing the cables is quite a job of course, but not so
> difficult.
> You should check the cables before replacing the Becker.
>
> BR,
>
> Jan
>
> PS: consider buying the wiring harness offered as an option with the radio
> or the PM 1200. It's generally of a very good quality.
>
>
>
>> On 27/08/14 20:44, "HÃ¥vard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or b.
>> Problem is the dimension on depth.
>>
>> Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is that
>> it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
>>
>> BR
>> Havard
>>
>>
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>
>>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
>>> Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
>>> I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>> On 27/08/14 19:57, "HÃ¥vard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in my
>>>> 52.
>>>> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>>>>
>>>> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Havard Dale
>>>> Norway
>>>>
>>>> Sendt fra min iPad
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I'd rather drink the ale.
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Yes,it will Doc!
Hans O.
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| Quote: | Op 28 aug. 2014 om 21:28 heeft Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc(at)me.com> het volgende geschreven:
Will the Funkwerk interchange with the 2.5 in panel hole Becker is occupying currently?
Doc
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> On Aug 28, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Hans Oortman <pa3arw(at)ziggo.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
> Jan, Doc,
>
> As you know we have tested a Becker radio (the 25kHz spacing one) in the
> workshop of my company. The Becker is simply not designed for such a
> noisy(from electromagnetic field point of view) as the Yak52. It's been
> designed for glider operation. It took me all kinds of tricks to get it free
> of noise, I finally achieved it though but I am still going to change to a
> new Funkwerk because we have to have 8.33kHz spacing anyway as of the first
> of jan 2017.
>
> I'd change to a Funkwerk and have the wiring completely redone with proper
> screening, common earth etc.
>
> Hans O.
> PH-YAK
>
>
>
>
> Op 28-08-14 19:49, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> schreef:
>
>>
>>
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Thanks Hans. Figured you would Mark. *;^)
Doc
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| Quote: | On Aug 28, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Hans Oortman <pa3arw(at)ziggo.nl> wrote:
Yes,it will Doc!
Hans O.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> Op 28 aug. 2014 om 21:28 heeft Roger Kemp <f16viperdoc(at)me.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
>
>
> Will the Funkwerk interchange with the 2.5 in panel hole Becker is occupying currently?
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 28, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Hans Oortman <pa3arw(at)ziggo.nl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Jan, Doc,
>>
>> As you know we have tested a Becker radio (the 25kHz spacing one) in the
>> workshop of my company. The Becker is simply not designed for such a
>> noisy(from electromagnetic field point of view) as the Yak52. It's been
>> designed for glider operation. It took me all kinds of tricks to get it free
>> of noise, I finally achieved it though but I am still going to change to a
>> new Funkwerk because we have to have 8.33kHz spacing anyway as of the first
>> of jan 2017.
>>
>> I'd change to a Funkwerk and have the wiring completely redone with proper
>> screening, common earth etc.
>>
>> Hans O.
>> PH-YAK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Op 28-08-14 19:49, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> schreef:
>>
>>>
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Absolutely!
Jan
On 28/08/14 21:28, "Roger Kemp" <f16viperdoc(at)me.com> wrote:
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Will the Funkwerk interchange with the 2.5 in panel hole Becker is
occupying currently?
Doc
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 28, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Hans Oortman <pa3arw(at)ziggo.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
> Jan, Doc,
>
> As you know we have tested a Becker radio (the 25kHz spacing one) in the
> workshop of my company. The Becker is simply not designed for such a
> noisy(from electromagnetic field point of view) as the Yak52. It's been
> designed for glider operation. It took me all kinds of tricks to get it
>free
> of noise, I finally achieved it though but I am still going to change
>to a
> new Funkwerk because we have to have 8.33kHz spacing anyway as of the
>first
> of jan 2017.
>
> I'd change to a Funkwerk and have the wiring completely redone with
>proper
> screening, common earth etc.
>
> Hans O.
> PH-YAK
>
>
>
>
> Op 28-08-14 19:49, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be> schreef:
>
>>
>>
>> Well, I also had more noise when I installed the Taylor plug wires, but
>> then I still had the original Russian radio (a Briz).
>>
>> Uninstalling the 8mm cables was not an option, so I replaced the Briz
>>by a
>> Becker.
>>
>> I took the time to replace ALL the radio wiring (audio, mike,
>> push-to-talk, antenna, power supply) and also paid attention to have a
>> good, common earth connection.
>>
>> I'm far from a specialist in avionics (Mark is the real specialist).
>>So I
>> suppose I was lucky.
>>
>> Afterwards I replaced the Becker by a Funkwerk ATR833 because I wanted
>>an
>> 8.33 kHz separation and the Funkwerk was a good buy for the money.
>>
>> Then I installed my "old" Becker + a PM1200 on our Yak 52.
>>
>> There too I replaced ALL the audio wiring and made sure to have one
>> single, good earthing connection point.
>>
>> I don't claim that this is the better way to do it (Mark?) but it
>>worked
>> for me.
>>
>> Our Yak 52 also has Dennis' plug wires.
>>
>> The installation on my Yak 50 (including my Garrecht transponder) is
>> checked and approved by a specialized EASA 145 company (imposed by the
>> French CAA).
>>
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 28/08/14 19:29, "Roger Kemp" <f16viperdoc(at)me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan, I did get the wiring harness with the radio. Using A/C grade RG
>>>56
>>> cable I believe. Forget who made the antenna but nothing had been a
>>> problem until I went to Taylor plug wires then all hell has gradually
>>> evolved.
>>> Now this noise is not throttle setting related but with the engine
>>>turned
>>> off it receives quit clearly? I know, kill the engine to receive! ;^0
>>>
>>> Doc
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am perfectly satisfied with the Funkwerk, it is very good.
>>>> I'm also co-owner of a Yak 52. In the Yak 52 I installed the small
>>>> Becker
>>>> with the PM1200 for intercom.
>>>> This also works flawlessly.
>>>> But I also replaced the complete cabling (audio cables, push-to-talk
>>>> cables, antenna cables).
>>>> If you have noise on the Becker, then you should look at the cabling.
>>>> Also: I connected all the mass cables on one point for a common mass
>>>>and
>>>> made also sure that this mass point is well connected to the battery.
>>>>
>>>> Verifying and replacing the cables is quite a job of course, but not
>>>>so
>>>> difficult.
>>>> You should check the cables before replacing the Becker.
>>>>
>>>> BR,
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> PS: consider buying the wiring harness offered as an option with the
>>>> radio
>>>> or the PM 1200. It's generally of a very good quality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/08/14 20:44, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I to go for the 8,33 spacing now. Looking on the Garmin 225a or
>>>>>b.
>>>>> Problem is the dimension on depth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you satisfied with the Funkwerk? Problem now with the Becker is
>>>>> that
>>>>> it pick up to mutch noise from the Aircraft when reciving.
>>>>>
>>>>> BR
>>>>> Havard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>>>
>>>>>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 20:13 skrev Jan Mevis
>>>>>><jan.mevis(at)informavia.be>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd go for an 8.33 kHz separation.
>>>>>> Just a matter of time before it will be imposed in Europe.
>>>>>> I have a German Filser Funkwerk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27/08/14 19:57, "Håvard Dale" <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would like to get some recomandations on which radio to instal in
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>> 52.
>>>>>>> Now have an becker but it will be replaced.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have a new in box PM1200 I/C I would use with a new radio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Havard Dale
>>>>>>> Norway
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sendt fra min iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Den 27. aug. 2014 kl. 09:02 skrev Yak-List Digest Server
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> formatted
>>>>>>>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
>>>>>>>> Indexes
>>>>>>>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII
>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>> of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text
>>>>>>>>editor
>>>>>>>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
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