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fdombroski

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Location: Westfield NJ

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:43 pm Post subject: RV-10 Paint Quantity

I am ordering paint for the RV-10.  Does anyone that used PPG Deltron 2000 know the paint quantity required for the base color and clear coat?  



Also the quantity of Epoxy Primer needed?



Many Thanks,

Frank

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Frank Dombroski
Multiple Offender RV-8, 7A, 10 x 2
RV-10 2.0 N46VT 2015
KSMQ Somerset Airport NJ

flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:13 pm Post subject: RV-10 Paint Quantity

I really can't answer the question because I'm just getting ready to 

paint the fuselage.  I bought a gallon of Grey primer and a gallon of 

white from Sherwin Williams Auto Paint.  I can buy more as I need it.



I do not want to do base/clear coat ..... I look at all the cars with 

peeling clear coat and think "If the best experienced paint shops can't 

paint clear coat without it peeling .... what chance do I have of 

getting it right???"

Linn



On 9/2/2014 5:43 PM, fdombroski wrote:

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 I am ordering paint for the RV-10.  Does anyone that used PPG Deltron 2000 know the paint quantity required for the base color and clear coat?



 Also the quantity of Epoxy Primer needed?



 Many Thanks,

 Frank



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 KSMQ Somerset Airport NJ





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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:38 pm Post subject: RV-10 Paint Quantity

PPG base/clear coat is very high quality and forgiving to the amateur

painter (like me).  I did two planes with this and will do the next one the

same.  The first plane is now 10 years after painting and still looks like

the day it came out of the paint booth.



For the RV-10, start with a gallon of PPG DP-40LF primer but you will most

likely need another two quarts.  Assuming you will do a primary, secondary

and then some accents in another color, start with a gallon of primary

color, two or three quarts of secondary and one quart of the accent color

(get more as needed).  You will need two gallons of clear.  You will need

about four gallons of PPG reducer (get the right one for the temperature

that you will be painting).  Plan on  ~$2500 for materials.  I am just 4

miles from a PPG distributor.  If you have to order and such then get more

to start.



Use PPG Alumi Prep with ScotchBrite pads, one good coat of primer, two coats

of color, two coats of clear.  If you are using a tri coat (like a lot of

metallic reds or pearl yellows) do two coats of base, two coats of pearl (or

candy) and then two coats of clear.  Follow the times listed with the

product for flash, recoat, tape and top coat exactly.



Paint with the wings, empennage, ailerons, flaps, doors and cowl off.  The

RV-10 is so big your arm will get tired so be prepared.  Paint the wings

first as they are the easiest so you get the hang of it.  Prep, prime, color

and top coat the wings in one weekend, the cowl and doors the next, then

empennage and control surfaces, and the fuselage last (the hardest part as

it is so big and you get to spend a lot of time on your back).



Attached is a homemade air/water separator that did a very nice job for me.

Note the water drain valve.  Fill the tub with water and ice.



Carl



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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:29 pm Post subject: RV-10 Paint Quantity

Thanks for the data Carl!

       More questions on the water separator ...... which is air in and       out?

       Describe the stuff at the bottom of the vertical pipe .... and the       drain valve ... that's hidden by the tub.

       Linn

       

       On 9/2/2014 9:38 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:

     

     [quote]       [quote]PPG base/clear coat is very high quality and forgiving to the amateur painter (like me).  I did two planes with this and will do the next one the same.  The first plane is now 10 years after painting and still looks like the day it came out of the paint booth.  For the RV-10, start with a gallon of PPG DP-40LF primer but you will most likely need another two quarts.  Assuming you will do a primary, secondary and then some accents in another color, start with a gallon of primary color, two or three quarts of secondary and one quart of the accent color (get more as needed).  You will need two gallons of clear.  You will need about four gallons of PPG reducer (get the right one for the temperature that you will be painting).  Plan on  ~$2500 for materials.  I am just 4 miles from a PPG distributor.  If you have to order and such then get more to start.  Use PPG Alumi Prep with ScotchBrite pads, one good coat of primer, two coats of color, two coats of clear.  If you are using a tri coat (like a lot of metallic reds or pearl yellows) do two coats of base, two coats of pearl (or candy) and then two coats of clear.  Follow the times listed with the product for flash, recoat, tape and top coat exactly.  Paint with the wings, empennage, ailerons, flaps, doors and cowl off.  The RV-10 is so big your arm will get tired so be prepared.  Paint the wings first as they are the easiest so you get the hang of it.  Prep, prime, color and top coat the wings in one weekend, the cowl and doors the next, then empennage and control surfaces, and the fuselage last (the hardest part as it is so big and you get to spend a lot of time on your back).  Attached is a homemade air/water separator that did a very nice job for me. Note the water drain valve.  Fill the tub with water and ice.  Carl  --

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:53 am Post subject: RV-10 Paint Quantity

Linn,

 

There are a lot of ways to do this.  This example uses a coil of 3/8” aluminum tubing from Aircraft Spruce and some standard fittings.  The coil shape is maintained by three pieces of wood and tie wraps.  The air goes in at the top (red hose).  The coil ends at a PVC “T” fitting.  The opposite side of the “T” fitting connects via PVC fittings, out a hole in the side of the tub and to the brass drain valve.  The top of the “T” fitting goes up out of the water where you see the yellow air out hose connected.  I also ran the out hose 6 feet or so vertically so any condensed but still entrained water would drain back down into the PVC pipe.  I blew the water out of the tub every hour or so.  I made some ice blocks from gallon milk jugs and floated about four of them in the water while painting.  When not in use empty the tube as the aluminum coil will corrode if left in water.

 

This water separator was the third in line from my compressor.  The first is a 10’ up run of ½” copper pipe, then a standard air filter, then this.  Without this finally water separator I got water at the paint gun.  With it I was always dry.

 

Have fun.  After painting an RV-10 you will find out why commercial paint shops get so much money for a paint job.



Carl 

 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters

Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:27 PM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: RV-10 Paint Quantity

 

Thanks for the data Carl!

More questions on the water separator ...... which is air in and out?

Describe the stuff at the bottom of the vertical pipe .... and the drain valve ... that's hidden by the tub.

Linn



On 9/2/2014 9:38 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:

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