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cjhukill(at)cox.net
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 Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:48 am Post subject: the other nose gear issue |
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I’m not flying yet and have been holding off doing the SB until the last minute as I am still waiting to hear from Vans about the OTHER failure of the nose gear assembly. A couple of months ago, someone wrote in about the failure of the welds of the vertical post to the gear leg, down by the wheel. He wrote that upon a normal landing, the welds failed and the wheel flew back into the fuselage and wing causing major damage to the aircraft and engine. He inspected the welds and found improper penetration of the welds, and sent the parts to Vans for analysis . There has been no further comments on this issue from anyone on the list or Vans. If there is going to be a need to remove, bead blast and inspect/modify that portion of this Achilles heal, I only want to remove it once. Has anyone heard any follow up on this issue?
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[quote]From: ibspud(at)roadrunner.com
Subject: RE: Rusty RV-8 Steel Parts and other problems
Date: Wed=2C 23 Jul 2014 12:19:55 -0700
Danny Riggs wrote: I'll
give you my tail of woe!
Last Sunday I was making a routine landing at my home airport and on the ro
llout the nose gear departed the plane and then the gear strut stuck into t
he pavement and when the plane continued over it folded up underneath. It w
as a main gear landing at a slow speed. Prop strike=2C very badly mangled f
irewall where the nose gear strut cut into it=2C big gouge on left side whe
re the nose wheel hit fusalage and then into the left flap. All at low spee
d. Gas everywhere. I was fortunate that it didn't roll over when the strut
dug into the pavement. The insurance adjustor come out today and looked it
over. His opinion agreed with me as to cause of accident. The gear strut br
oke at the weld where it attaches to the upright spindle on the wheel assem
bly. Looks to be a very poor weld and not a very robust design to boot. The
weld was very small in width and didn't penetrate very deep. Split right
down the middle of the weld=2C I wonder how many ticking time bombs are out
there ready to blow off the nose gears. Not in a place to check very often
either. Dan> Date: Sun=2C 13 Jul 2014 11:28:20 -0700[b]
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bill.peyton
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:11 am Post subject: Re: the other nose gear issue |
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Was this an RV8 or 10?
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jdriggs49(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:26 am Post subject: the other nose gear issue |
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RV-10. Happened about a month ago. Van's has been trying to blame me for it. Of course!! 😠😠Everybody that looks at it says its a lousy weld. At 34 hours of use nothing should be breaking even if landed hard a couple of time. (It wasn't). Think of all the Cessnas that have been landed on the nose gear repeatably by students with no breaks. I was really surprised when it happened as there had been no reason for it to fail. Dan
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From: peyton.b(at)sbcglobal.net
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 06:11:11 -0700
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Was this an RV8 or 10?
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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philperry9
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:39 am Post subject: the other nose gear issue |
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Sorry to hear about that and I'm sorry I missed it earlier. That's a disaster.
Did you snap any photos before sending it back to Van's for analysis?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49(at)msn.com (jdriggs49(at)msn.com)> wrote:
[quote] RV-10. Happened about a month ago. Van's has been trying to blame me for it. Of course!!  Everybody that looks at it says its a lousy weld. At 34 hours of use nothing should be breaking even if landed hard a couple of time. (It wasn't). Think of all the Cessnas that have been landed on the nose gear repeatably by students with no breaks. I was really surprised when it happened as there had been no reason for it to fail. Dan
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jdriggs49(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:37 am Post subject: the other nose gear issue |
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Yeah I did.
Also had three A&Ps and two welding experts look at it. They all said it was a bad weld. Disaster to the tune of $90k..😂😂😠Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:38:29 -0500
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: the other nose gear issue
From: philperry9(at)gmail.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sorry to hear about that and I'm sorry I missed it earlier. That's a disaster.
Did you snap any photos before sending it back to Van's for analysis?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49(at)msn.com> wrote:
RV-10. Happened about a month ago. Van's has been trying to blame me for it. Of course!! Everybody that looks at it says its a lousy weld. At 34 hours of use nothing should be breaking even if landed hard a couple of time. (It wasn't). Think of all the Cessnas that have been landed on the nose gear repeatably by students with no breaks. I was really surprised when it happened as there had been no reason for it to fail. Dan
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rv10flyer(at)live.com
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:32 am Post subject: the other nose gear issue |
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After reading about Vic & Bill and his airport , I would think they would have suffered the same demise as you did by now. Really sorry about this happening to you Dan!
Bill and or Vic;
Please check that area of your gear for us and tell us what you see since it’s all apart anyway, as this is very concerning. I really feel for you and the work needed to comply with the SB.
From: Danny Riggs (jdriggs49(at)msn.com)
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:35 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Re: the other nose gear issue
Yeah I did.
Also had three A&Ps and two welding experts look at it. They all said it was a bad weld. Disaster to the tune of $90k.. Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:38:29 -0500
Subject: Re: Re: the other nose gear issue
From: philperry9(at)gmail.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sorry to hear about that and I'm sorry I missed it earlier. That's a disaster.
Did you snap any photos before sending it back to Van's for analysis?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49(at)msn.com (jdriggs49(at)msn.com)> wrote:
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