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I like landing in a short field but my roll out is very long and my prop gets green stuff all over it and needs re building every time I take off from there I have already taken off the breaks because I cant find a good way to keep the grass from getting clogged in them and beefed up the pito tube so it wont get ripped off by the grass coming over the nose cone any moo.r any suggestions on how to shorten up my ground rol.l
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Man, I would cut the grass, but that won't help shorten your roll outs.
Dennis "Skid" RoweMk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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I like landing in a short field but my roll out is very long and my prop gets green stuff all over it and needs re building every time I take off from there I have already taken off the breaks because I cant find a good way to keep the grass from getting clogged in them and beefed up the pito tube so it wont get ripped off by the grass coming over the nose cone any moo.r any suggestions on how to shorten up my ground rol.l
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
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LSRM-A, PPC, WS
Great Sails - Sailmaker
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Perhaps you should check out what kind of grass you have planted on your runway. Seriously. We have one section of Cherokee Strip that is a type of Bermuda grass spec'd out for us by the Kansas Agricultural Extension Service. We keep it at about 3", although the ag guys say 2" is better, but when I mow it I can feel the tractor, a 36 hp Kubota, pulled down in that section of the runway. I feel the same thing when I land in it. It's like rolling into molasses.The other thing you need to consider is that your buddies at the Friendly Aviation Administration can call you for a prop strike if you have grass stains on your prop. Sounds silly, but it's been done. When I was a student pilot I landed at an old US Navy base on the Olympic Peninsula that had since passed over to another agency and was no longer maintained very well with 4 foot high weeds coming up through the cracks in the concrete. When I got back to Renton my instructor passed the story along. Since this is the airport that Boeing was flying new 737's out of every day we had a bit higher FAA presence than a grass strip might have. Still, you happen upon the wrong bureaucrat on the wrong day.....
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| Quote: | Man, I would cut the grass, but that won't help shorten your roll outs.
Dennis "Skid" RoweMk3, Rotax 670,Â
Leechburg, PA
On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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 I like landing in a short field but my roll out is very long and my prop gets green stuff all over it and needs re building every time I take off from there I have already taken off the breaks because I cant find a good way to keep the grass from getting clogged in them and beefed up the pito tube so it wont get ripped off by the grass coming over the nose cone  any moo.r    any suggestions on how to shorten up my ground rol.l
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It could cut down on the repairs however. Just how tall is this "grass"? Maybe you could give demo's on how to land in cornfield or Bean fields.Larry
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net (rowedenny(at)windstream.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Man, I would cut the grass, but that won't help shorten your roll outs.
Dennis "Skid" RoweMk3, Rotax 670,Â
Leechburg, PA
On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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 I like landing in a short field but my roll out is very long and my prop gets green stuff all over it and needs re building every time I take off from there I have already taken off the breaks because I cant find a good way to keep the grass from getting clogged in them and beefed up the pito tube so it wont get ripped off by the grass coming over the nose cone  any moo.r    any suggestions on how to shorten up my ground rol.l
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/
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Great Sails - Sailmaker
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: long rool out |
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Just realized this original post has to be a joke, seriously, grass over the nosecone and wrecking the prop on every take off? No way. Not to mention a long run out in this jungle in any Kolb? Mine stops in 200 feet of short grass almost every time.
We've been had.😜
Dennis "Skid" RoweMk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]It could cut down on the repairs however. Just how tall is this "grass"? Maybe you could give demo's on how to land in cornfield or Bean fields.Larry
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net (rowedenny(at)windstream.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Man, I would cut the grass, but that won't help shorten your roll outs.
Dennis "Skid" RoweMk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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I like landing in a short field but my roll out is very long and my prop gets green stuff all over it and needs re building every time I take off from there I have already taken off the breaks because I cant find a good way to keep the grass from getting clogged in them and beefed up the pito tube so it wont get ripped off by the grass coming over the nose cone any moo.r any suggestions on how to shorten up my ground rol.l
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
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Could be Dennis, but some of the old timers here at Cherokee Strip talk about years when everyone was APO with everyone else and no one would mow the runway or taxiways. Some Kansas grasses grow to 4 feet tall so you could easily do as Malcolm describes.Whatever.
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On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net (rowedenny(at)windstream.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Just realized this original post has to be a joke, seriously, grass over the nosecone and wrecking the prop on every take off? No way. Not to mention a long run out in this jungle in any Kolb? Mine stops in 200 feet of short grass almost every time.
We've been had.😜
Dennis "Skid" RoweMk3, Rotax 670,Â
Leechburg, PA
On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | It could cut down on the repairs however. Just how tall is this "grass"? Maybe you could give demo's on how to land in cornfield or Bean fields.Larry
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net (rowedenny(at)windstream.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Man, I would cut the grass, but that won't help shorten your roll outs.
Dennis "Skid" RoweMk3, Rotax 670,Â
Leechburg, PA
On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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 I like landing in a short field but my roll out is very long and my prop gets green stuff all over it and needs re building every time I take off from there I have already taken off the breaks because I cant find a good way to keep the grass from getting clogged in them and beefed up the pito tube so it wont get ripped off by the grass coming over the nose cone  any moo.r    any suggestions on how to shorten up my ground rol.l
Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
http://michigansportpilotrepair.com/
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LOL Yes it was But this is no Joke, today we are delivering another fire fly to a NEW kolb owner in Lema Ohio we will forword the kolb list to him, this makes just another plane I have had around that I have not had the experience of flying , I suppose it is like Dick Rayhill once told me when it comes to airplanes, " never a lender nor or a Barrower be" then "unless you have money to throw to the wind" I like to say!
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Just realized this original post has to be a joke, seriously, grass over the nosecone and wrecking the prop on every take off? No way. Not to mention a long run out in this jungle in any Kolb? Mine stops in 200 feet of short grass almost every time.
We've been had.😜Dennis "Skid" RoweMk3, Rotax 670,
Leechburg, PA
On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]It could cut down on the repairs however. Just how tall is this "grass"? Maybe you could give demo's on how to land in cornfield or Bean fields.LarryOn Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net (rowedenny(at)windstream.net)> wrote: | Quote: | Man, I would cut the grass, but that won't help shorten your roll outs.Dennis "Skid" RoweMk3, Rotax 670,
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On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com (brubakermal(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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I like landing in a short field but my roll out is very long and my prop gets green stuff all over it and needs re building every time I take off from there I have already taken off the breaks because I cant find a good way to keep the grass from getting clogged in them and beefed up the pito tube so it wont get ripped off by the grass coming over the nose cone any moo.r any suggestions on how to shorten up my ground rol.l
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That new kind of grass is called PINE
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[quote] On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps you should check out what kind of grass you have planted on your runway. Seriously. We have one section of Cherokee Strip that is a type of Bermuda grass spec'd out for us by the Kansas Agricultural Extension Service. We keep it at about 3", although the ag guys say 2" is better, but when I mow it I can feel the tractor, a 36 hp Kubota, pulled down in that section of the runway. I feel the same thing when I land in it. It's like rolling into molasses.
The other thing you need to consider is that your buddies at the Friendly Aviation Administration can call you for a prop strike if you have grass stains on your prop. Sounds silly, but it's been done. When I was a student pilot I landed at an old US Navy base on the Olympic Peninsula that had since passed over to another agency and was no longer maintained very well with 4 foot high weeds coming up through the cracks in the concrete. When I got back to Renton my instructor passed the story along. Since this is the airport that Boeing was flying new 737's out of every day we had a bit higher FAA presence than a grass strip might have. Still, you happen upon the wrong bureaucrat on the wrong day.....
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> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Dennis Rowe <rowedenny(at)windstream.net> wrote:
> Man, I would cut the grass, but that won't help shorten your roll outs.
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>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> I like landing in a short field but my roll out is very long and my prop gets green stuff all over it and needs re building every time I take off from there I have already taken off the breaks because I cant find a good way to keep the grass from getting clogged in them and beefed up the pito tube so it wont get ripped off by the grass coming over the nose cone any moo.r any suggestions on how to shorten up my ground rol.l
>> Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker
>> Michigan Sport Pilot Repair
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>> for Ultralight & Light Sport.
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