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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:01 pm    Post subject: are twisted pairs necessary for RS-232? Reply with quote

Dynon Skyview uses RS-232 serial communication. Is twisted wire a requirement for RS-232? The installation manual makes no mention, other than for their "Skyview Network" which is separate from the RS-232 found in the harness.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject: are twisted pairs necessary for RS-232? Reply with quote

Twisted pairs for RS-232 won't accomplish much. If you twist RX and
TX together you'll be actively hurting the signal. It's a
single-ended signal and can't take advantage of the common-mode
rejection provided by a twisted pair.
If you have signal integrity problems with it (and can't use the
differential equivalent RS-422) then shielded cable is probably the
way to go.

Henry

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Ken Ryan <keninalaska(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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Dynon Skyview uses RS-232 serial communication. Is twisted wire a
requirement for RS-232? The installation manual makes no mention, other than
for their "Skyview Network" which is separate from the RS-232 found in the
harness.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:32 pm    Post subject: are twisted pairs necessary for RS-232? Reply with quote

Thanks Henry. My next question was whether or not it would be acceptable to splice the RS-232 wires. Specifically I would like to connect them to one side of a terminal strip, and then resume them from the other side. It sounds like that should not cause any problem?

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Twisted pairs for RS-232 won't accomplish much.  If you twist RX and
TX together you'll be actively hurting the signal.  It's a
single-ended signal and can't take advantage of the common-mode
rejection provided by a twisted pair.
If you have signal integrity problems with it (and can't use the
differential equivalent RS-422) then shielded cable is probably the
way to go.

Henry

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Ken Ryan <keninalaska(at)gmail.com (keninalaska(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
> Dynon Skyview uses RS-232 serial communication. Is twisted wire a
> requirement for RS-232? The installation manual makes no mention, other than
> for their "Skyview Network" which is separate from the RS-232 found in the
> harness.
>
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:01 pm    Post subject: are twisted pairs necessary for RS-232? Reply with quote

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Ken Ryan <keninalaska(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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Thanks Henry. My next question was whether or not it would be acceptable to
splice the RS-232 wires. Specifically I would like to connect them to one
side of a terminal strip, and then resume them from the other side. It
sounds like that should not cause any problem?

Yes that should be fine.


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