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riddon(at)sent.com
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 Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:16 am Post subject: Carbon Fibre |
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Not quite a Europa question but I note that several contributors have made parts for the Europa with carbon Fibre. I need to make a repair to a part for a boat out of carbon fibre (sorry, not the plane). Is it the same as working with epoxy / glassfibre? Can I use the same resin or are there special considerations for working with carbon?
Richard Iddon.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:41 am Post subject: Carbon Fibre |
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Richard
You can use the same resin for carbon fibre work. The major considerations come with sanding etc. make sure you wear a very good mask and watch out for getting "carbon splinters" in your skin.
I am sure others would have more advice.
Dave Watts
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Not quite a Europa question but I note that several contributors have made parts for the Europa with carbon Fibre. I need to make a repair to a part for a boat out of carbon fibre (sorry, not the plane). Is it the same as working with epoxy / glassfibre? Can I use the same resin or are there special considerations for working with carbon?
Richard Iddon.
G-RIXS
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nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:31 am Post subject: Carbon Fibre |
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Richard, I have built polyester canoes and have played around with
carbon fibre - so have experience of both systems. It's not clear from
your mail whether your boat is constructed out of carbon and you need
to repair it, or if you just fancy repairing a glass fibre boat using
carbon.
The actual techniques are broadly the same but I would always
recommend repairing like with like. If your boat is made out of
chopped strand mat (CSM) and polyester resign, then use the same to
repair it.
There is a lot of miss-understanding concerning carbon and if used in
the wrong place, can actually result in a weaker repair. Because
carbon is so stiff, it can take all of the load in a structure,
meaning the weaker material (glass) takes less; the then overloaded
carbon simply fractures. Imagine bonding a piece of glass to a hose
pipe - then flexing it.
Nigel
Quoting Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com>:
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Not quite a Europa question but I note that several contributors
have made parts for the Europa with carbon Fibre. I need to make a
repair to a part for a boat out of carbon fibre (sorry, not the
plane). Is it the same as working with epoxy / glassfibre? Can I use
the same resin or are there special considerations for working with
carbon?
Richard Iddon.
G-RIXS
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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:43 am Post subject: Carbon Fibre |
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Absolutely right Nigel, and better than I could have put it.
Graham
From: "nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk" <nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Carbon Fibre
--> Europa-List message posted by: nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk (nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk)
Richard, I have built polyester canoes and have played around with carbon fibre - so have experience of both systems. It's not clear from your mail whether your boat is constructed out of carbon and you need to repair it, or if you just fancy repairing a glass fibre boat using carbon.
The actual techniques are broadly the same but I would always recommend repairing like with like. If your boat is made out of chopped strand mat (CSM) and polyester resign, then use the same to repair it.
There is a lot of miss-understanding concerning carbon and if used in the wrong place, can actually result in a weaker repair. Because carbon is so stiff, it can take all of the load in a structure, meaning the weaker material (glass) takes less; the then overloaded carbon simply fractures. Imagine bonding a piece of glass to a hose pipe - then flexing it.
Nigel
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Not quite a Europa question but I note that several contributors have made parts for the Europa with carbon Fibre. I need to make a repair to a part for a boat out of carbon fibre (sorry, not the plane). Is it the same as working with epoxy / glassfibre? Can I use the same resin or are there special considerations for working with carbon?
Richard Iddon.
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