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dean.psiropoulos(at)veriz
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights

Those who have been here already...when you put the steam gauges in your

panel, how do you fit the ones with the knobs sticking out of one corner?

For the (United Instruments) altimeter it looks like I won't have a choice

and will have to hog out some of the corner of the panel where the knob goes

(big bump in the case under the knob).  However, for the MD200 OBS (VOR/ILS

indicator) and the 2 inch G meter (Falcon Gauge) the knobs have small posts

that would likely fit through the screw hole if the knob were removed before

installing the gauge.  Can the knobs on these gauges be removed prior to

installing the gauge and then re-attached afterwords?  Or am I just going to

have to make a small slot between the cutout and the screw hole? Also, what

exactly is the bit size used to drill these screw holes?  #6 screws???



Annunciator lights, I'd like to find some square ones with the colored

plastic and engraved text that shows what subsystem is having a problem

(commercial airline pilots know them well).  I have had some great input

from an RV-6A pilot who rolled his own.  I've perused the web quite a while

and haven't found much that might work for my application (mostly round

lampholders with colored lenses but you couldn't really engrave them with

text like I'm wanting). Any suggestions on this one?  The only other option

I can see is to use the round lampholders and have engraved text underneath

each one with the subsystem being annunciated. Not the optimum solution but

given what I've found so far, looking more and more viable all the time

(probably simpler and quicker too).  Thanks.



Dean Psiropoulos

RV-6A N197DM

Gonna fly this spring!!!

khorton01(at)rogers.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:53 am Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights

On 16 Jan 2006, at 24:52, DEAN PSIROPOULOS wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <dean.psiropoulos(at)verizon.net>



 Those who have been here already...when you put the steam gauges in  

 your

 panel, how do you fit the ones with the knobs sticking out of one  

 corner?

 For the (United Instruments) altimeter it looks like I won't have a  

 choice

 and will have to hog out some of the corner of the panel where the  

 knob goes

 (big bump in the case under the knob).  However, for the MD200 OBS  

 (VOR/ILS

 indicator) and the 2 inch G meter (Falcon Gauge) the knobs have  

 small posts

 that would likely fit through the screw hole if the knob were  

 removed before

 installing the gauge.  Can the knobs on these gauges be removed  

 prior to

 installing the gauge and then re-attached afterwords?  Or am I just  

 going to

 have to make a small slot between the cutout and the screw hole?  

 Also, what

 exactly is the bit size used to drill these screw holes?  #6 screws???


	


I've got an MD200, and the Falcon G meter.  Both need a cut out for  

the knobs in the corner.  The knob on the G meter is closer to the  

hole than a screw hold would be, if I recall correctly, so don't  

drill the holes until you have the gauge in your hands.



#6 screw = #28 drill bit.



Kevin Horton         RV-8 (finishing kit)

Ottawa, Canada

http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8

icubob(at)newnorth.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights

kevin,

 ''hog out the corner''. been there last week. if you look careful you will 

see the face of the alt. is built up around the shaft you are talking about. 

that bit of panel needs to be removed to make it fit.

  bob noffs

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Bruce(at)glasair.org
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:50 am Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights

Why don't you lay the panel out in an AutoCAD compatible CAD program, when

everything is the way you want it, send the DFX file to a laser cutter and

be done with it. All 3 of my panel inserts were done that way, cost was

around $100 per panel including 0.090 aluminum sheet. The time saved was

tremendous.



Bruce

www.glasair.org

rv-9a-online(at)telus.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:58 am Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights

Dean:  See

http://vx-aviation.com/page_2.html



Are these what you're looking for?  The lamps are available individually 

or as part of integrated controllers.



There are also NKK 'UB' series illuminators availabe from Digi-Key.  

They must be panel mounted individually and are harder to install.  I 

think John Schroeder has used them for his Lancair.



Vern Little



DEAN PSIROPOULOS wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  ...

Annunciator lights, I'd like to find some square ones with the colored

plastic and engraved text that shows what subsystem is having a problem

(commercial airline pilots know them well).  I have had some great input

from an RV-6A pilot who rolled his own.  I've perused the web quite a while

and haven't found much that might work for my application (mostly round

lampholders with colored lenses but you couldn't really engrave them with

text like I'm wanting). Any suggestions on this one?  ...

Bill Denton

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 97
Location: Chicago, IL USA

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights

A lot of the instrument MANUFACTURERS have mounting templates for their

instruments on their web sites; some of them in .pdf format that can be

printed actual size. It's probably a good idea to only use them for planning

purposes since, due to manufacturing tolerances, actual sizes may vary...



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europa(at)triton.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:11 am Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights

Dean,



Yes the knobs can be taken off.  There should be a set screw in the knob.



For switches, Tyco makes a nice version.  See their Command Series 16mm.

Available from www.Newarkinone.com  stock number 46F3130.  We used these

switches (164SL and 164SL5) and the same family lighted indicator (164-SZ)

in our install.  Rather than engraving there is a plastic lens inside the

switch which can be screen printed.  I had this done by Precision Dial Co.

(www.precisiondial.com) (I formerly owned the company).



Jim Butcher

Europa XS N241BW

jschroeder(at)perigee.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights

Vern -



Thank you for the reference. I used the LB series lights - rectangular.  

The also come in round and square shapes.



Cheers,



John

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:57:00 -0800, rv-9a-online <rv-9a-online(at)telus.net>  

wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   There are also NKK 'UB' series illuminators availabe from Digi-Key.

 They must be panel mounted individually and are harder to install.  I

 think John Schroeder has used them for his Lancair.

 Vern Little


	


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Peter Laurence

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 50

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights

Bruce,



Who did tou use?

Peter

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 	  Quote: 	
		   Why don't you lay the panel out in an AutoCAD compatible CAD program, when

 everything is the way you want it, send the DFX file to a laser cutter and

 be done with it. All 3 of my panel inserts were done that way, cost was

 around $100 per panel including 0.090 aluminum sheet. The time saved was

 tremendous.



 Bruce

 www.glasair.org

Bruce(at)glasair.org
Guest

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights

Aircraft Engravers, www.engravers.net, ask for Wayne.



Bruce

www.glasair.org

 



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