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n520tx(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:28 am Post subject: Time for Front Seats

Looking for opinions on the front seats.



Anyone have recent input from going the Oregon Aero route wrt pricing ? 

I'm tempted to use that avenue, but the idea of shipping both seat 

frames out and back sounds risky.



I took the cushions and frame to a local auto interior shop to get an 

estimate - while claiming they are 'experts' in aviation upholstery, the 

guy seemed clueless. They refused to give me an estimate beyond "time 

and materials" -- with a time estimate of "could take me 2 hrs, could 

take me 10" (at $75 per hr). I left unfulfilled.



--Ron

schmoboy

Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 130

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:10 am Post subject: Time for Front Seats

I would give Abby at Flightline Interiors a call.  You don't have to 

send here anything and she does a great job.  Very satisfied customer.



http://www.flightlineinteriors.com



-Sean #40303



 	  Quote: 	
		   Ron Walker <mailto:n520tx(at)gmail.com>

 December 19, 2014 at 8:25 AM

 



 Looking for opinions on the front seats.



 Anyone have recent input from going the Oregon Aero route wrt pricing 

 ? I'm tempted to use that avenue, but the idea of shipping both seat 

 frames out and back sounds risky.



 I took the cushions and frame to a local auto interior shop to get an 

 estimate - while claiming they are 'experts' in aviation upholstery, 

 the guy seemed clueless. They refused to give me an estimate beyond 

 "time and materials" -- with a time estimate of "could take me 2 hrs, 

 could take me 10" (at $75 per hr). I left unfulfilled.



 --Ron

Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:26 am Post subject: Time for Front Seats

Depending on where you are, also consider Geoff Combs at Aerosport products. in Columbus OH area for very nice custom seat covering.



The front seats are more easily shipped if you separate the seat back from the seat base.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com (sean(at)stephensville.com)> wrote:[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com (sean(at)stephensville.com)>

 

 I would give Abby at Flightline Interiors a call.  You don't have to send here anything and she does a great job.  Very satisfied customer.

 

 http://www.flightlineinteriors.com

 

 -Sean #40303

 

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 Looking for opinions on the front seats.

 

 Anyone have recent input from going the Oregon Aero route wrt pricing ? I'm tempted to use that avenue, but the idea of shipping both seat frames out and back sounds risky.

 

 I took the cushions and frame to a local auto interior shop to get an estimate - while claiming they are 'experts' in aviation upholstery, the guy seemed clueless. They refused to give me an estimate beyond "time and materials" -- with a time estimate of "could take me 2 hrs, could take me 10" (at $75 per hr). I left unfulfilled.

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:30 am Post subject: Time for Front Seats

Ron;

I went to a rather famous auto upholstery place in Southern California, they 

were very expensive and in the end the work was pretty bad. I ended up 

getting a beautiful seat from Desser for a reasonable price. I do not know 

if they are still doing this as it was during the era when Desser was 

pushing into the RV aftermarket business. If I were to do this again with a 

RV-16 I would go the aircraft uphostery route, albeit Oregon, Desser or 

other upholstery company that has done this before.



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rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:00 am Post subject: Time for Front Seats

It appears that she took all the RV-10 products off her web site 



Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com> wrote:






I would give Abby at Flightline Interiors a call.  You don't have to send here anything and she does a great job.  Very satisfied customer.



http://www.flightlineinteriors.com



-Sean #40303



 	  Quote: 	
		   Ron Walker <mailto:n520tx(at)gmail.com>

 December 19, 2014 at 8:25 AM

 

 

 Looking for opinions on the front seats.

 

 Anyone have recent input from going the Oregon Aero route wrt pricing ? I'm tempted to use that avenue, but the idea of shipping both seat frames out and back sounds risky.

 

 I took the cushions and frame to a local auto interior shop to get an estimate - while claiming they are 'experts' in aviation upholstery, the guy seemed clueless. They refused to give me an estimate beyond "time and materials" -- with a time estimate of "could take me 2 hrs, could take me 10" (at $75 per hr). I left unfulfilled.

 

 --Ron

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flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:01 am Post subject: Time for Front Seats

I had front and rear seats covered in marine vinyl ..... easy to keep 

clean and durable .... for $850 time/materials ..... which included 

tuck/roll for the center panel.  The lady works out of her home in 

Titusville FL which is kinda local for me.

If you have removed the crotch strap from the back seats like I did, be 

sure to tell the upholsterer so they can remove the 'notch' from the 

rear seat bottom.

Linn



On 12/19/2014 9:25 AM, Ron Walker wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Looking for opinions on the front seats.



 Anyone have recent input from going the Oregon Aero route wrt pricing 

 ? I'm tempted to use that avenue, but the idea of shipping both seat 

 frames out and back sounds risky.



 I took the cushions and frame to a local auto interior shop to get an 

 estimate - while claiming they are 'experts' in aviation upholstery, 

 the guy seemed clueless. They refused to give me an estimate beyond 

 "time and materials" -- with a time estimate of "could take me 2 hrs, 

 could take me 10" (at $75 per hr). I left unfulfilled.



 --Ron



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flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:03 am Post subject: Time for Front Seats

I called .... they were 6-9 months lead time.  That's the trouble with 

success!!!

Linn



On 12/19/2014 10:58 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:

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 It appears that she took all the RV-10 products off her web site



 Sent from my iPhone



 On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com> wrote:



 



 I would give Abby at Flightline Interiors a call.  You don't have to send here anything and she does a great job.  Very satisfied customer.



 http://www.flightlineinteriors.com



 -Sean #40303



> Ron Walker <mailto:n520tx(at)gmail.com>

> December 19, 2014 at 8:25 AM

> 

>

> Looking for opinions on the front seats.

>

> Anyone have recent input from going the Oregon Aero route wrt pricing ? I'm tempted to use that avenue, but the idea of shipping both seat frames out and back sounds risky.

>

> I took the cushions and frame to a local auto interior shop to get an estimate - while claiming they are 'experts' in aviation upholstery, the guy seemed clueless. They refused to give me an estimate beyond "time and materials" -- with a time estimate of "could take me 2 hrs, could take me 10" (at $75 per hr). I left unfulfilled.

>

> --Ron

>





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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:20 am Post subject: Time for Front Seats

Yeah, I talked to her not long ago and they really are swamped

with business.  They refuse to raise prices to make the products

less affordable, which keeps them completely swamped.

I didn't know that all RV-10 products were gone, but I knew

carpets and things for sure were.

Tim

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On 12/19/2014 11:00 AM, Linn Walters wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I called .... they were 6-9 months lead time.  That's the trouble with

 success!!!

 Linn



 On 12/19/2014 10:58 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:

> 

>

> It appears that she took all the RV-10 products off her web site

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com>

> wrote:

>

> 

>

> I would give Abby at Flightline Interiors a call.  You don't have to

> send here anything and she does a great job.  Very satisfied customer.

>

> http://www.flightlineinteriors.com

>

> -Sean #40303

>

>> Ron Walker <mailto:n520tx(at)gmail.com>

>> December 19, 2014 at 8:25 AM

>> 

>>

>> Looking for opinions on the front seats.

>>

>> Anyone have recent input from going the Oregon Aero route wrt pricing

>> ? I'm tempted to use that avenue, but the idea of shipping both seat

>> frames out and back sounds risky.

>>

>> I took the cushions and frame to a local auto interior shop to get an

>> estimate - while claiming they are 'experts' in aviation upholstery,

>> the guy seemed clueless. They refused to give me an estimate beyond

>> "time and materials" -- with a time estimate of "could take me 2 hrs,

>> could take me 10" (at $75 per hr). I left unfulfilled.

>>

>> --Ron

>>

>

woxofswa

Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 349
Location: AZ

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Time for Front Seats

One thought about the front seats. One of the greatest builder mods of the whole build was the two seat mods for the front seats.  Trimming the track guard, and nut plating the aft track block, both for easier seat removal.  Hopefully someone can post a link to the instructions for those mods as they are highly worthwhile.  Van's should have just embedded them into the plans they make so much sense.

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rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:39 am Post subject: Time for Front Seats

I would give Geoff at Aerosport Products a call.   He's got more seat options than what is shown on the web site. 



Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Linn Walters <flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com> wrote:






I called .... they were 6-9 months lead time.  That's the trouble with success!!!

Linn



 	  Quote: 	
		   On 12/19/2014 10:58 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:

 

 

 It appears that she took all the RV-10 products off her web site

 

 Sent from my iPhone

 

 On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 I would give Abby at Flightline Interiors a call.  You don't have to send here anything and she does a great job.  Very satisfied customer.

 

 http://www.flightlineinteriors.com

 

 -Sean #40303

 

> Ron Walker <mailto:n520tx(at)gmail.com>

> December 19, 2014 at 8:25 AM

> 

> 

> Looking for opinions on the front seats.

> 

> Anyone have recent input from going the Oregon Aero route wrt pricing ? I'm tempted to use that avenue, but the idea of shipping both seat frames out and back sounds risky.

> 

> I took the cushions and frame to a local auto interior shop to get an estimate - while claiming they are 'experts' in aviation upholstery, the guy seemed clueless. They refused to give me an estimate beyond "time and materials" -- with a time estimate of "could take me 2 hrs, could take me 10" (at $75 per hr). I left unfulfilled.

> 

> --Ron

> 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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aerosport1

Joined: 07 Nov 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:59 pm Post subject: Time for Front Seats

Aerosport Products can do your seats any many colors and fabrics. We can do

custom designs for a small fee.

We now have all RV-10 seat foams in 3D and can generate seat designs much

quicker thru a computer program.

This program is what many of the car manufactures use for designing their

seats patterns . 



We do require you to send the front upper steel frame with the foams and

just the lower front seat foams.

For the back seats we have our own foams we sell that are very similar to

the Vans foams. All we need are Your corrugated rear seat back frames that

the builder assembles. We do offer carpet kits for the RV-10 also.

Give us a call



Thanks Geoff

www.aerosportproducts.com 



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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:23 pm Post subject: Time for Front Seats

My vote is for Abby with Flight Line interiors.  I would bet she has the single most experience in doing RV interiors.

She is extremely easy to work with.  Great quality.



Dave Leikam



[quote] On Dec 19, 2014, at 3:56 PM, Geoff Combs <g.combs(at)aerosportmodeling.com> wrote:

 

 Aerosport Products can do your seats any many colors and fabrics. We can do

 custom designs for a small fee.

 We now have all RV-10 seat foams in 3D and can generate seat designs much

 quicker thru a computer program.

 This program is what many of the car manufactures use for designing their

 seats patterns . 

 

 We do require you to send the front upper steel frame with the foams and

 just the lower front seat foams.

 For the back seats we have our own foams we sell that are very similar to

 the Vans foams. All we need are Your corrugated rear seat back frames that

 the builder assembles. We do offer carpet kits for the RV-10 also.

 Give us a call

 

 Thanks Geoff

 www.aerosportproducts.com 

 

 Aerosport 

 

 

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jchang10

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:46 pm Post subject: Time for Front Seats

Abby and crew is definitely easy to work with, and i have ordered 

several things over the years.



However, the one disappointment i had was with ordering the rear 

passenger seat floor mats. For some reason, they are small and do not 

fit the footwell. They are short about 2 inches or so all around. She 

said that was all they had and did not have anything bigger. It just 

struck me as odd that they couldn't make a simple modification to fully 

fit the footwell?! The fronts fit great.



Jae



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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:00 pm Post subject: Time for Front Seats

On 12/19/2014 6:42 PM, Jae Chang wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Abby and crew is definitely easy to work with, and i have ordered 

 several things over the years.



 However, the one disappointment i had was with ordering the rear 

 passenger seat floor mats. For some reason, they are small and do not 

 fit the footwell. They are short about 2 inches or so all around. She 

 said that was all they had and did not have anything bigger. It just 

 struck me as odd that they couldn't make a simple modification to 

 fully fit the footwell?! The fronts fit great.



 Jae



Mine fit well - did you have carpet installed on the surrounding 
	


vertical surfaces?  I did and I'm thinking that may be a dependency.



I also 2nd the motion on Abby's seat work.  Just pick the materials and 

order, no need to send anything.  They'll fit fine.

woxofswa

Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 349
Location: AZ

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Time for Front Seats

I think the issue is that her rear floor mats are designed to go on top of full rear carpeting that is glued to the floor pan.  



 	  jchang10 wrote: 	
		  Abby and crew is definitely easy to work with, and i have ordered 

several things over the years.



However, the one disappointment i had was with ordering the rear 

passenger seat floor mats. For some reason, they are small and do not 

fit the footwell. They are short about 2 inches or so all around. She 

said that was all they had and did not have anything bigger. It just 

struck me as odd that they couldn't make a simple modification to fully 

fit the footwell?! The fronts fit great.



Jae



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First flight 10/19/2011

Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011

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Mesa, AZ
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:44 pm Post subject: Time for Front Seats

The options weren’t as prevalent when I did my seats, but I went with a local guy that did seats for hot rods.  They turned out great and a very good price, although I don’t recall exactly what.  I’d look into the normal options, but try talking to a local hot rod club as well as anyone that does good work on their seats has the equipment and skill to do yours as well, and since it doesn’t say aviation it might be a lot cheaper.

Marcus



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		  On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)>On 12/19/2014 6:42 PM, Jae Chang wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  --> RV10-List message posted by: Jae Chang <jc-matronics_rv10(at)jline.com (jc-matronics_rv10(at)jline.com)>Abby and crew is definitely easy to work with, and i have ordered several things over the years.However, the one disappointment i had was with ordering the rear passenger seat floor mats. For some reason, they are small and do not fit the footwell. They are short about 2 inches or so all around. She said that was all they had and did not have anything bigger. It just struck me as odd that they couldn't make a simple modification to fully fit the footwell?! The fronts fit great.Jae 	
Mine fit well - did you have carpet installed on the surrounding vertical surfaces?  I did and I'm thinking that may be a dependency.I also 2nd the motion on Abby's seat work.  Just pick the materials and order, no need to send anything.  They'll fit fine.www.homebuilthelp.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contributionhttp://forums.matronics.com

	


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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject: Time for Front Seats

I bought virtually everything that Geoff Combs/Aerosport Products sells for the RV-10 - IP, all interior panels, overhead console, front and rear leather seats with headrests, center console with upholstered arm rest, headliner, and carpet.  Although I do not have everything installed yet, the quality looks great.  And, since Geoff built and flys an RV-10 I have no worries about something not fitting.  His service, responsiveness, and support either directly or through Zac Holcomb have been excellent.



Bruce



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		   On Dec 19, 2014, at 8:25 AM, Ron Walker <n520tx(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Looking for opinions on the front seats.

 

 Anyone have recent input from going the Oregon Aero route wrt pricing ? I'm tempted to use that avenue, but the idea of shipping both seat frames out and back sounds risky.

 

 I took the cushions and frame to a local auto interior shop to get an estimate - while claiming they are 'experts' in aviation upholstery, the guy seemed clueless. They refused to give me an estimate beyond "time and materials" -- with a time estimate of "could take me 2 hrs, could take me 10" (at $75 per hr). I left unfulfilled.

 

 --Ron

tmoushon(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:35 am Post subject: Time for front seats

I met Geoff and Zac a couple years ago at OSH13 and I saw their products up close at OSH14.  I flew to Lancaster to visit Geoffs' facility (worth the time) and drop off my front seats and rear seat backs a couple months ago....  Yesterday, I received the rest of my RV10 order.  WOW!  The workmanship was AWESOME.  I think their abilities come from the years of doing new model interior design work for the automotive industry.  I have heard of several good seat makers....but I think Geoffs' interior design background, his successful completion of his RV10 and Zac push them to the top.

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:53 am Post subject: Time for front seats

I am also close to interior. That's for posting.. I'll use him also.Craig

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 I met Geoff and Zac a couple years ago at OSH13 and I saw their products up close at OSH14.Â  I flew to Lancaster to visit Geoffs' facility (worth the time) and drop off my front seats and rear seat backs a couple months ago....Â  Yesterday, I received the rest of my RV10 order.Â  WOW!Â  The workmanship was AWESOME.Â  I think their abilities come from the years of doing new model interior design work for the automotive industry.Â  I have heard of several good seat makers....but I think Geoffs' interior design background, his successful completion of his RV10 and Zac push them to the top.

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Time for Front Seats

Just a warning. I ordered upholstery from Flight Crafters in Florida three months ago and they never sent the seats or returned my calls after cashing my check. I'm out over 1000 dollars.

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