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william(at)wbliss.co.uk
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:14 pm Post subject: Bright Lights

Hello All



I want to be seen by anything in front. Something like a 20 degree wide

cone of strong white light (maybe flashing) would be reassuring. I would

prefer LED. Any suggestions on what to look for specification wise and

where such a light could be mounted as well as modification approval

experience with the LAA appreciated.



Thanks



William Bliss Europa XS cowled G-WUFF

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pmorgans

Joined: 02 May 2014
Posts: 11
Location: West Wales

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:37 pm Post subject: Bright Lights

Hi William,

I've just bought a couple of Cree daytime running lights, as used on motorbikes. These 3 watt LEDs have a particularly bright white light and cost about £25.00 the pair. Just search 'Cree daytime running lights' and you'll get a host of options. I was thinking of installing 3 or 4 of these in a cluster at slightly different angles. I'm also hoping to be able to crib the installation and LAA approval from someone else.

Regards

Peter Morgans

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Hello All



I want to be seen by anything in front. Something like a 20 degree wide

cone of strong white light (maybe flashing) would be reassuring. I would

prefer LED. Any suggestions on what to look for specification wise and

where such a light could be mounted as well as modification approval

experience with the LAA appreciated.



Thanks



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kheindl(at)msn.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:42 pm Post subject: Bright Lights

Hi William,



I installed landing lights using bulbs with the MR16 standard. There is a huge choice of LED and Halogen types with a choice of narrow and wide beam. They cost around £ 3 each including postage from China. Their diameter is 50mm and I mounted mine in the upper portion of the two inlets at the front of the XS cowling. The 9 watt LED narrow beam bulbs are amazingly bright.

I copied the idea from one of the Czech LSA aircraft.  I think it is called Aerotrek, and it is based on the Kitfox.

Karl



[quote] Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 20:14:03 +0000

 From: william(at)wbliss.co.uk

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Bright Lights

 

 --> Europa-List message posted by: William Bliss <william(at)wbliss.co.uk>

 

 Hello All

 

 I want to be seen by anything in front. Something like a 20 degree wide

 cone of strong white light (maybe flashing) would be reassuring. I would

 prefer LED. Any suggestions on what to look for specification wise and

 where such a light could be mounted as well as modification approval

 experience with the LAA appreciated.

 

 Thanks

 

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Fred Klein

Joined: 26 Mar 2012
Posts: 503

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:08 pm Post subject: Bright Lights

I too have opted for LEDs conforming to the MR16 standard…the brightest I’ve found are:

- Premium 2 LED MR16 GU5.3 10W 12V 10 Deg 3000K 80CRI, 	and

- Premium 2 LED MR16 GU5.3 11.5W 12V 25 Deg 3000K 80CRI 



manufactured and sold by Soraa.



(still a-building…)



F.





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		  On Mar 13, 2015, at 2:42 PM, Karl Heindl <kheindl(at)msn.com (kheindl(at)msn.com)> wrote:

Hi William,

I installed landing lights using bulbs with the MR16 standard. There is a huge choice of LED and Halogen types with a choice of narrow and wide beam. They cost around £ 3 each including postage from China. Their diameter is 50mm and I mounted mine in the upper portion of the two inlets at the front of the XS cowling. The 9 watt LED narrow beam bulbs are amazingly bright.

I copied the idea from one of the Czech LSA aircraft.  I think it is called Aerotrek, and it is based on the Kitfox.

Karl> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 20:14:03 +0000> From: william(at)wbliss.co.uk (william(at)wbliss.co.uk)> To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)> Subject: Bright Lights> > --> Europa-List message posted by: William Bliss <william(at)wbliss.co.uk (william(at)wbliss.co.uk)>> > Hello All> > I want to be seen by anything in front. Something like a 20 degree wide> cone of strong white light (maybe flashing) would be reassuring. I would> prefer LED. Any suggestions on what to look for specification wise and> where such a light could be mounted as well as modification approval> experience with the LAA appreciated.> > Thanks> > William Bliss Europa XS cowled G========================> > > 

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spcialeffects

Joined: 29 Aug 2012
Posts: 306
Location: Kent

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:27 am Post subject: Re: Bright Lights

Hi William. I too wanted landing lights and bought Fred K's lenses to fair them into the wing tips with nav lights BUT have decided to fit landing lights into the outrigger fairing. The lights i have chosen are these from this vans site.

http://www.rvplane.com/?categoryid=10000&dayid=1143

They are pricey but are FANTASTIC!

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rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 791

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:20 am Post subject: Re: Bright Lights

Hi Group



My build partner and I have been doing some off road mountain biking at night. You can buy a NICE helmet mounted light for a lot of dollars.

I purchased a CHEAP China unit for a fraction of the price, made a mount and it really does the job. It has high, medium, low, flash mode (high) and SOS (high). It also comes with a Lithium Ion battery pack (and case) and charger.



Here's the link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/9600Lm-8X-CREE-XM-L-U2-LED-Head-Front-Bicycle-Lamp-Bike-Light-Headlamp-Headlight-/151262604417?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2337f42c81



I think I saw it as low as 61$. 



Worth considering for Europa.



Here's some testing we did including Kunzleman and Aero Sun:

http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=30987



Ron Parigoris

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clivesutton

Joined: 23 Jan 2013
Posts: 187
Location: KENILWORTH

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Bright Lights

Hello William,



I did just this on G-TAGR and got LAA MOD approval 13072 in 2011 - using a 'Parts for Aircraft' sourced 55W H3 halogen light kit including bracket mounted to the air intake aluminium ducting as image uploaded.  I later swapped the bulb to an LED as the current drain is dramatically reduced and equally as bright.  If you wanted to do the same an repeat MOD application would be needed - citing 13072 to save you work.  Went to quite a lot of trouble to make sure it would not go into resonance as a result of excitation vibration from e.g. prop or engine out of balance forces.



regards,

Clive

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