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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:56 pm    Post subject: Ring mount to engine Reply with quote

Im am fitting the ring mount to engine. There is a lot of stuff in  the way...for example coolant hoses to the cylinder heads and some of the wiring.
I dont want to remove any more than I have to.  What needs to be removed in order to fit the ring mount?  For example does one need to remove the starter motor?
Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:08 pm    Post subject: Ring mount to engine Reply with quote

Hi William,
If it’s a 912 you are fitting, here is a comprehensive reply from Bud Yearly when I asked the same question. Note the issue of the lower coolant hoses and changing the angle of one of the lower coolant hose nozzles from the water pump while you have it off. All not too difficult when you remove the right bits. I didn’t have to remove the starter motor.

Good luck!

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Keith Hickling
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Im am fitting the ring mount to engine. There is a lot of stuff in the way...for example coolant hoses to the cylinder heads and some of the wiring.
I dont want to remove any more than I have to. What needs to be removed in order to fit the ring mount? For example does one need to remove the starter motor?
Thanks in advance
Will
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:08 am    Post subject: Ring mount to engine Reply with quote

Hi Will,
Keith’s advice is spot on, although I felt I did have to remove the starter motor, also changing the angle of the water outlet slightly. Just take your time, I did mine on the dining room table much to the consternation of my good lady who questioned why I was taking a new engine apart!

Richard

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Im am fitting the ring mount to engine. There is a lot of stuff in the way...for example coolant hoses to the cylinder heads and some of the wiring. I dont want to remove any more than I have to. What needs to be removed in order to fit the ring mount? For example does one need to remove the starter motor? Thanks in advance Will
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:39 am    Post subject: Ring mount to engine Reply with quote

Richard and Keith 
thanks very much very useful.
Richard, I notice that you said "changing the angle" whereas bud's advice is to change the elbow from 80 to 45 deg - did you change the elbow or did you just turn it to get a better angle?
Secondly which manual did you use to dismantle the water pump?
Many thanks
Will 

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[quote]Hi Will,

Keith’s advice is spot on, although I felt I did have to remove the starter motor, also changing the angle of the water outlet slightly. Just take your time, I did mine on the dining room table much to the consternation of my good lady who questioned why I was taking a new engine apart! 
Richard
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On 28 Mar 2015, at 21:55, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com (wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Im am fitting the ring mount to engine. There is a lot of stuff in  the way...for example coolant hoses to the cylinder heads and some of the wiring.
I dont want to remove any more than I have to.  What needs to be removed in order to fit the ring mount?  For example does one need to remove the starter motor?
Thanks in advance
Will
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:22 am    Post subject: Ring mount to engine Reply with quote

Hi Will,
I don’t remember changing the elbow, think I just repositioned it. The clearance is very tight, but it’s a few years ago and I would have to drop the cowling off to remind myself. At the time I was ’smarting’ a bit as Skydrive supplied the mount loose and then informed me I would invalidate the warranty by fitting the mount myself.
I didn’t use any manual for dismantling or reassembly. As a new engine all components were ’sweet’ to pull apart, being an ex-mechanic helped. Thinking about it now reminds me the buggers didn’t fit the top cooling shroud either so I had to take at least one of the manifolds off as well. Shame they lost the Uk distribution.

Richard

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Richard and Keith
thanks very much very useful.

Richard, I notice that you said "changing the angle" whereas bud's advice is to change the elbow from 80 to 45 deg - did you change the elbow or did you just turn it to get a better angle?

Secondly which manual did you use to dismantle the water pump?

Many thanks

Will

William Daniell
LONGPORT+57 310 295 0744

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Richard Scanlan <aspenbuild(at)me.com (aspenbuild(at)me.com)> wrote:
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Hi Will,
Keith’s advice is spot on, although I felt I did have to remove the starter motor, also changing the angle of the water outlet slightly. Just take your time, I did mine on the dining room table much to the consternation of my good lady who questioned why I was taking a new engine apart!

Richard

G-CEIW
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On 28 Mar 2015, at 21:55, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com (wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Im am fitting the ring mount to engine. There is a lot of stuff in the way...for example coolant hoses to the cylinder heads and some of the wiring.I dont want to remove any more than I have to. What needs to be removed in order to fit the ring mount? For example does one need to remove the starter motor?Thanks in advanceWill
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:39 pm    Post subject: Ring mount to engine Reply with quote

Hi William,
Sorry, I had forgotten the issue of changing the outlet if you have an 80 degree one. As you will see in the attachments, I already had 45 degree nozzles and so just needed to rotate the one in question. I’m not sure whether they changed the nozzle angles on all engines after a certain date, but as you can see on the photos mine were all around 40-45 deg as supplied with the engine. I will attach a further reply from Bud to this issue confirming that I just needed to rotate the existing outlet nozzle.

Regards,
Keith.


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Richard and Keith
thanks very much very useful.

Richard, I notice that you said "changing the angle" whereas bud's advice is to change the elbow from 80 to 45 deg - did you change the elbow or did you just turn it to get a better angle?

Secondly which manual did you use to dismantle the water pump?

Many thanks

Will


William Daniell

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+57 310 295 0744


On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Richard Scanlan <aspenbuild(at)me.com (aspenbuild(at)me.com)> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Will,

Keith’s advice is spot on, although I felt I did have to remove the starter motor, also changing the angle of the water outlet slightly. Just take your time, I did mine on the dining room table much to the consternation of my good lady who questioned why I was taking a new engine apart!


Richard


G-CEIW
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On 28 Mar 2015, at 21:55, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com (wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com)> wrote:


Im am fitting the ring mount to engine. There is a lot of stuff in the way...for example coolant hoses to the cylinder heads and some of the wiring.
I dont want to remove any more than I have to. What needs to be removed in order to fit the ring mount? For example does one need to remove the starter motor?
Thanks in advance
Will
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