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capedavis(at)yahoo.com
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 Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:30 pm Post subject: firefly cables |
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Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill
cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the design since the plans were drawn?Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:29 am Post subject: Re: firefly cables |
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Go to page 7 of this list and open Kolbd detail photos. Pictures of stick connections, turn buckles and boom pulley.
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stuart(at)harnerfarm.net
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:09 am Post subject: firefly cables |
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Here are some greatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need.
If you want to see the original files email me directly and I can send them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis
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Subject: firefly cables
Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill
cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the design since the plans were drawn?
Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Androidk
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Herbgh(at)nctc.com
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 3:32 pm Post subject: firefly cables |
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Stewart
On my first Friefly, the sling seat allowed my rear end stretch the sling seat enough to touch the cables...Is that what you see? Herb
On 05/16/2015 10:09 AM, Stuart Harner wrote:
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Here are some greatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need.
If you want to see the original files email me directly and I can send them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of chris davis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 PM
To: Kolb-List Diget Server; .Kolb-List(at)matronics.com
Subject: firefly cables
Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill
cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the design since the plans were drawn?
Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Androidk
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capedavis(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 6:25 pm Post subject: firefly cables |
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Stuartthank you for the pics they are very clear Ithonk that I can nloe them up on my compiter I have A wuestion the two brackets tjay hpld the pulleys Arethey parrilell. To the cross bar?Mine appear to be at about 26-30 degreeup on the outsideand that seems to be the reason that the cables dont run true to the pulleys .I will check out your picms on the big screen a.d if I cant figure it out i will write you off list and ask you to send me the full original files . Thanks again CHRIS
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>
Date:Sat, May 16, 2015 at 11:18 AM
Subject:RE: firefly cables
Uu
Here are some grefttplpatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need.
If you want to see the original files email me directly and I can send them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davisSent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 PMTo: Kolb-List Diget Server; .Kolb-List(at)matronics.comSubject: firefly cables
Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill
cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the design since the plans were drawn?
Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Androidk
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stuart(at)harnerfarm.net
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:18 pm Post subject: firefly cables |
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Herb,
Not that I have noticed. Guess I will have to have someone look at it from the side while I am in the seat. I did install the seat as tight as I could get it, but it does stretch a little when I am in it. It also “recovers” in a couple of hours.
Did you have the sling on the top of the tube at the back of your butt, or did it wrap under it?
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:26 AM
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Subject: Re: firefly cables
Stewart
On my first Friefly, the sling seat allowed my rear end stretch the sling seat enough to touch the cables...Is that what you see? Herb
On 05/16/2015 10:09 AM, Stuart Harner wrote:
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Here are some greatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need.
If you want to see the original files email me directly and I can send them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of chris davis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 PM
To: Kolb-List Diget Server; .Kolb-List(at)matronics.com (.Kolb-List(at)matronics.com)
Subject: firefly cables
Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill
cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the design since the plans were drawn?
Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Androidk
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stuart(at)harnerfarm.net
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:18 pm Post subject: firefly cables |
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Chris,
Not they are not parallel to the tube, they are angled up a little.
I had some trouble getting the pulleys into the bracket. Bryan at the factory said it was fine to “bend” them a little to get things to line up. I also had to use different bolts that were called out in the plans.
A bit of a trick figuring it all out, but it worked fine in the end.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris davis
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:25 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RE: firefly cables
Stuartthank you for the pics they are very clear Ithonk that I can nloe them up on my compiter I have A wuestion the two brackets tjay hpld the pulleys Arethey parrilell. To the cross bar?Mine appear to be at about 26-30 degreeup on the outsideand that seems to be the reason that the cables dont run true to the pulleys .I will check out your picms on the big screen a.d if I cant figure it out i will write you off list and ask you to send me the full original files . Thanks again CHRIS
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
From:"Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net (stuart(at)harnerfarm.net)>
Date:Sat, May 16, 2015 at 11:18 AM
Subject:RE: firefly cables
Uu
Here are some grefttplpatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need.
If you want to see the original files email me directly and I can send them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of chris davis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 PM
To: Kolb-List Diget Server; .Kolb-List(at)matronics.com (.Kolb-List(at)matronics.com)
Subject: firefly cables
Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill
cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the design since the plans were drawn?
Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Androidk
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lcottrell
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 9:09 pm Post subject: firefly cables |
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On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net (stuart(at)harnerfarm.net)> wrote:
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Not that I have noticed. Guess I will have to have someone look at it from the side while I am in the seat. I did install the seat as tight as I could get it, but it does stretch a little when I am in it. It also “recovers” in a couple of hours.
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I didn't feel all that good with the sling bottom. I riveted a thin alum sheet onto the framework for the seat and put me a nice temper foam pad down to sit on. I would hate to set down HARD and end up with a suppository.
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| Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:53 am Post subject: firefly cables |
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over the top Stuart... as you say the seat webbing sags a bit , no matter how tight..and the space between that and the cables is small..
The original builder of my new Firefly project added a reinforced aluminum pan between the two seat cross members.. Pretty heavy..and I am considering going back to the sling seat...He made some good touches but all add weight... For one he built an aluminum storage box to fit into the triangular space behind the fuel tank,( a good place to carry tie downs, oil and a small mixing tank)....and he fully enclosed the fuselage including a door on the Right side to access the fuel and the storage box.. I will need to have the box loaded when I do the wt and bal...
Another touch that I like is a couple of cro molly tie downs added to the far outboard end of the wings...they are at the end of the leading edge tube and would have been better placed if attached to the ends of the main spar...I always used the lift struts to attach tie down rope...
Gonna be interesting at weigh in time... 285 to 290 is as heavy as I want with full enclosure ..Herb
On 05/16/2015 11:16 PM, Stuart Harner wrote:
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Herb,
Not that I have noticed. Guess I will have to have someone look at it from the side while I am in the seat. I did install the seat as tight as I could get it, but it does stretch a little when I am in it. It also “recovers” in a couple of hours.
Did you have the sling on the top of the tube at the back of your butt, or did it wrap under it?
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Herb
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:26 AM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: firefly cables
Stewart
On my first Friefly, the sling seat allowed my rear end stretch the sling seat enough to touch the cables...Is that what you see? Herb
On 05/16/2015 10:09 AM, Stuart Harner wrote:
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Here are some greatly reduced images. Hopefully they are what you need.
If you want to see the original files email me directly and I can send them to you. They are about 1.5 MB each.
Stuart
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of chris davis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:30 PM
To: Kolb-List Diget Server; .Kolb-List(at)matronics.com (.Kolb-List(at)matronics.com)
Subject: firefly cables
Hi KOLBERS as you may know i am building a handicap Kolb Firefly . it id the second Kolb Ivhave buit my firstwas a Fiestar fat and fast .I have a request does anybodyvhave a picture of thier Firefly cables after they leave the stick and rudder pedals they go overfour pulleys then under four pulleys then into the fusalage tube .My prblem is thwt ill
cant find a plan or an explanaton of how the first four are rigged TRAVIS has sent me plans and a new construction kanual as I.had to move my roject from Fl. To Ma. And somehow it disapeared Travis said they use washrs to pace them but the angle seems wrongvthe cables don travel strait over the pulley when you run them throughvth next set so a PIC or two would help a lot TRAVIS Said tha BRIAN changed the design since the plans were drawn?
Thankq you CHRIS DAVIS
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