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altman51

Joined: 17 Sep 2012
Posts: 14
Location: Savannah, GA

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:44 pm Post subject: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir

I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the aircraft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) explored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure but the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not getting out. 

Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and made its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We had to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the reservoir.  It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspection.

Ernie

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 513

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:56 pm Post subject: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir

This is not the first time I've heard of this. Search the archives, I'm sure you'll find several examples.



Hope no damage was done.

Ernie



On Friday, August 14, 2015, altman51 <waltman51(at)comcast.net (waltman51(at)comcast.net)> wrote:

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 I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the aircraft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) explored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure but the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not getting out.

 Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and made its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We had to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the reservoir.Â  It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspection.

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:22 pm Post subject: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir

A plastic magnet usually helps.

 

 

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:27 pm Post subject: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir

I so distrust myself that I remove the cap from a quart of oil and drop it  on the ground before even nearing the airplane. Murphy and I are well acquainted. 



Blitz Fox415-307-2405

On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]This is not the first time I've heard of this. Search the archives, I'm sure you'll find several examples.



Hope no damage was done.

Ernie



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 I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the aircraft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) explored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure but the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not getting out.

 Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and made its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We had to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the reservoir.  It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspection.

 

 

 

 

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Viperdoc

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:47 pm Post subject: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir

Another idea. Take the cap off of you oil bottle and leave the cap on the wing root while you are pouring the oil in the tank. 

Doc



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		   On Aug 14, 2015, at 6:44 PM, altman51 <waltman51(at)comcast.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the aircraft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) explored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure but the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not getting out. 

 Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and made its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We had to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the reservoir.  It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspection.

 

 

 

 

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Viperdoc

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:48 pm Post subject: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir

Yep. Know the gentleman quite well.

Doc



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On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Byron Fox <byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]I so distrust myself that I remove the cap from a quart of oil and drop it  on the ground before even nearing the airplane. Murphy and I are well acquainted. 



Blitz Fox415-307-2405

On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		  This is not the first time I've heard of this. Search the archives, I'm sure you'll find several examples.



Hope no damage was done.

Ernie



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 I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the aircraft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) explored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure but the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not getting out.

 Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and made its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We had to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the reservoir.  It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspection.

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:09 pm Post subject: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir

Great idea on reservoir inspection, I'll add that to my annual insp list, thanks-

Justin Drafts

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On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:44 PM, altman51 <waltman51(at)comcast.net (waltman51(at)comcast.net)> wrote:

[quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "altman51" <waltman51(at)comcast.net (waltman51(at)comcast.net)>

 

 I recently started the engine on my CJ6 intending to fly but noticed that the oil pressure had dropped to zero. The engine was shut down and the aircraft secured. 6 days later my mx guy (Jason Berman) and I (Jason mostly) explored the problem. We determine that the oil pump was putting out pressure but the oil was not getting out of the reservoir. Oil was returning but not getting out.

 Long story short we found after drawing all the oil out that a plastic oil cap from a quart oil container had somehow gotten into the reservoir and made its way to the oil outlet and blocked it. It had probably been there for along time and just happened to make its way to block the oil outlet. We had to remove the oil reservoir in order to extract the oil cap. I would guess that most people when they change the oil do not inspect the inside of the reservoir.Â  It would probably be a good idea to start doing such an inspection.

 

 

 

 

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richard.goode(at)russiana
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:36 pm Post subject: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir

We had a customer with oil pressure problems in a Yak 18T, and after some

investigation found no less than 17 oil caps or their retaining rings in the

oil tank!



Richard Goode



Rhodds Farm 

Lyonshall 

Hereford 

HR5 3LW 

United Kingdom 

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Tel:   +44 (0) 1544 340120 

Fax:  +44 (0) 1544 340129 

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Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:30 am Post subject: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir

That's incredible!

Keeping a pair of long, mechanical fingers in your tool box for that "just in case" situation helps in removing the caps and rings instead of the possibility of having to remove the oil tank.  How do I know this works?  Anyone want to guess?  ) http://www.lowes.com/pd_79041-56005-70396_1z0x3hu__?productId=3139045&pl=1 

Dennis



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We had a customer with oil pressure problems in a Yak 18T, and after some

investigation found no less than 17 oil caps or their retaining rings in the

oil tank!



Richard Goode



Rhodds Farm 

Lyonshall 

Hereford 

HR5 3LW 

United Kingdom 

 Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka)

Tel:   +44 (0) 1544 340120 

Fax:  +44 (0) 1544 340129 

www.russianaeros.com

Iâ€™m currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is

+94 779 132 160.



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altman51

Joined: 17 Sep 2012
Posts: 14
Location: Savannah, GA

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:40 am Post subject: Re: Foreign Object in CJ6 Oil Reservoir

In regard to using forceps to remove the cap...don't believe you could do that as the hole in the baffling is too small for the cap to go thru and it would be almost impossible to get forceps down the left side and even if you did it would be a tight squeeze coming up that side.

Etienne Verhellen

Joined: 13 Apr 2007
Posts: 141
Location: Belgium

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:11 am Post subject: Mistakes while flying Yaks (Yak-52 and Yak-50) ...

Have been there ... done that ...



Think I have done most mistakes one can do when flying Yaks !



But I 'm sure there is still room for 'improvement' !      



Was hoping to get there today with a friend's Yak-52 :

http://flyin.dac.be/

But the weather is not playing ball today (

It's raining cats and dogs here !



Have a great WE.

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