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Dee One
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 Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:52 pm Post subject: Flying Mark III with no doors. |
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I've taught flying for 20 years out of a Kolb Twister; i.e. completely open cockpit. Currently rebuilding a Mk3. I'm contemplating flying the Mk3 with the doors off via removing the wire on the piano hinges. This should provide more of an open-cockpit experience for the summer months.
My question is: What's your experience flying with doors removed from the Mk3? Any adverse handling characteristics besides more drag? Thanks for your feedback.
Dee
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Richard Pike
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Flying Mark III with no doors. |
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Tried it once, no change in flying characteristics, but the amount of wind drawn through by the shape of the cockpit was incredible. I suggest half doors, which is what I use in the summer. Open cockpit without the wind. It is easy enough to have 2 sets of doors; one set for the winter, one for the summer.
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Dee One
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:39 pm Post subject: Flying Mark III with no doors. |
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Is this half door of your own design? Do you have a photo? Sounds like a good compromise. Dee LeBlanc
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| Quote: | On Aug 24, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron(at)charter.net (thegreybaron(at)charter.net)> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net (thegreybaron(at)charter.net)>Tried it once, no change in flying characteristics, but the amount of wind drawn through by the shape of the cockpit was incredible. I suggest half doors, which is what I use in the summer. Open cockpit without the wind. It is easy enough to have 2 sets of doors; one set for the winter, one for the summer.--------Richard PikeKolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)Kingsport, TN 3TN0Would you consider yourself to be a good person?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7ARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446339#446339Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040729_small_535.jpg
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Richard Pike
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Flying Mark III with no doors. |
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They are identical to stock MKIII doors with that back half cut off and the curved back vertical moved forward and reattached with some of the curve taken out. I started with the Lexan extending back further, a straight edge, and kept cutting it away until I could see past it and still not have a lot of wind.
Anyway, the top hinged piece extends up 29" from the edge of the fiberglass fairing, the rest of it is just eyeballed to suit, I doubt it is at all critical. I have used these since 1998, replaced the Lexan a couple times as it gets scratched.
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Dee One
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:21 pm Post subject: Flying Mark III with no doors. |
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Thanks Richard, I plan to give it a try. Maybe I’ll start with old Lexan and trim to my liking for a pattern. Dee LeBlanc
leblancds(at)cox.net (leblancds(at)cox.net)
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| Quote: | On Aug 25, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron(at)charter.net (thegreybaron(at)charter.net)> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net (thegreybaron(at)charter.net)>They are identical to stock MKIII doors with that back half cut off and the curved back vertical moved forward and reattached with some of the curve taken out. I started with the Lexan extending back further, a straight edge, and kept cutting it away until I could see past it and still not have a lot of wind. Anyway, the top hinged piece extends up 29" from the edge of the fiberglass fairing, the rest of it is just eyeballed to suit, I doubt it is at all critical. I have used these since 1998, replaced the Lexan a couple times as it gets scratched.--------Richard PikeKolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)Kingsport, TN 3TN0Would you consider yourself to be a good person?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7ARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446390#446390
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Richard Pike
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Flying Mark III with no doors. |
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Excellent plan!
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