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west1m

Joined: 19 Apr 2014
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Location: Hastings, MN

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:46 pm Post subject: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

I went out the other day for the longest distance I have ever done. Nothing like the rest of you, going to Alaska and the like... But for me it was great.

I went from New Richmond to Chetek to Rice lake to Cumberland and back to New Richmond. In all a bit over one hundred miles. Yeah yeah, big deal!

Any way, had a great time, froze my fanny off on the way to Chetek, where a guy gave me a ride into town where I purchased a sweat shirt. All was well until about Turtle lake when I had a slight wardrobe malfunction...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI

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lcottrell

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:28 pm Post subject: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

Thanks for the video. I laughed as much as you probably did, after you landed and saw the footage. As John Hauck is always saying those long flights were made up of short hops, just like you did that day.



I am sure that you are happy with your little bird, it looks like a sweet one. However if you would like to make it more suitable for those long hops, it wouldn't take much. I used to use the short wind screen when I first started, but the wind would hit me just about the top of the head, so I was always worried about my hat, and the wind would make my nose run. I got tired of snot on my glasses, so I bought a full enclosure from Kolb and put it on. Besides giving me about 5 MPH more speed, I was a lot warmer. The wind beating on you while going around the patch is nothing. Multiply that over a hundred miles and your senses are reeling.

Oh, if you should decide that you want to get the enclosure, don't use the part that closes off the back, that will negate the additional speed that you gained with the full screen. I made a hot air capture device for my 447 and could fly in temps as low as 50 degrees in a tee shirt.

Thanks for the video,

Larry

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 I went out the other day for the longest distance I have ever done. Nothing like the rest of you, going to Alaska and the like... But for me it was great.

 I went from New Richmond to Chetek to Rice lake to Cumberland and back to New Richmond. In all a bit over one hundred miles. Yeah yeah, big deal!

 Any way, had a great time, froze my fanny off on the way to Chetek, where a guy gave me a ride into town where I purchased a sweat shirt. All was well until about Turtle lake when I had a slight wardrobe malfunction...

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:59 pm Post subject: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

Congratulations.  All cross country flights are made up of

legs.  To make a long cross country flight takes a few more

legs than the short ones.



Enjoyed your video.  Glad you did not lose your hat or get

beat to death with you hoodie draw strings.



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west1m

Joined: 19 Apr 2014
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

Thanks guys. Larry I would appreciate a picture of your heat device.

And Larry, you are the Video King!

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michaelrorth

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:20 pm Post subject: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

A couple of S/S woodscrews would cure that flying-hat problem.

  

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lcottrell

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:39 pm Post subject: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

You are lucky, I managed to find the pictures on my wife's computer. 



The way the heater works is that it captures the hot air coming out of the shroud and is funneled into a scat tube that I ran to the nose pod. In the image- Tools to bend- I used a 1 1/2 or 2 inch chunk of pipe with a thin piece of flat stock welded to the pipe to hold the aluminum that will make up the tube. I drilled a hole in the end to stick a piece of 3/8 rod to give me leverage enough to bend the piece. I left the alum about three inches longer than the opening in the shroud so that I could fit the scat tubing over it. The next picture- tools for flanges- is merely a piece of 2x4 with a kerf cut about 1/2 inch deep is to bend enough of the tubing into a flange so that you can rivet it to the shroud. I then cut a circle that I could close off one end of the tube. In the picture- heater open you can see that I cut out panels so that I could allow all the heat to escape if I didn't need it. I used a push pull cable to activate the door, and I placed that in the cockpit. Once you get it made, put down a strip of high temp silicone sealer and rivet it to the shroud.

Even with the back of the enclosure open I was able to fly mine all winter long and still be able to stay pretty comfortable. 

If any of this is not plain, feel free to ask for clarification.

Larry

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:11 pm Post subject: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

A staple gun is quicker and easier[quote]On Aug 29, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Michael Orth <mosurf(at)xplornet.com (mosurf(at)xplornet.com)> wrote:

    A couple of S/S woodscrews would cure that flying-hat problem.

  

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:41 pm Post subject: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

Nice video...nearly Larry quality...  Good looking bird too!

     

       I agree with having the full enclosure... only way to go...this     last Firefly came in at 266 lbs  with full enclosure..

     

      Easy to make...from raw stock...The lexan; 1/16th inch cost 40 some     bucks at the local plastic outlet...one of the few things that has     not gone up in price ... Think I bought 3/4 of a sheet...?  The     tubing was from stock..The first time I made one...I  looked at a     picture...then ran some straight edge material from the nose to the     approximate area for the top bow..I used 1x1 aluminum angle on both     sides...Attached the left side to the frame and attached the other     side to the lexan and  some simple latches..Works well... Herb

     

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     [quote]       Thanks for the video. I laughed as much as you         probably did, after you landed and saw the footage. As John         Hauck is always saying those long flights were made up of short         hops, just like you did that day.         

         

         I am sure that you are happy with your little bird, it           looks like a sweet one. However if you would like to make it           more suitable for those long hops, it wouldn't take much. I           used to use the short wind screen when I first started, but           the wind would hit me just about the top of the head, so I was           always worried about my hat, and the wind would make my nose           run. I got tired of snot on my glasses, so I bought a full           enclosure from Kolb and put it on. Besides giving me about 5           MPH more speed, I was a lot warmer. The wind beating on you           while going around the patch is nothing. Multiply that over a           hundred miles and your senses are reeling.

         

         

         Oh, if you should decide that you want to get the           enclosure, don't use the part that closes off the back, that           will negate the additional speed that you gained with the full           screen. I made a hot air capture device for my 447 and could           fly in temps as low as 50 degrees in a tee shirt.

         

         

         Thanks for the video,

         Larry

       

       

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             I went out the other day for the longest distance I have             ever done. Nothing like the rest of you, going to Alaska and             the like... But for me it was great.

             I went from New Richmond to Chetek to Rice lake to             Cumberland and back to New Richmond. In all a bit over one             hundred miles. Yeah yeah, big deal!

             Any way, had a great time, froze my fanny off on the way to             Chetek, where a guy gave me a ride into town where I             purchased a sweat shirt. All was well until about Turtle             lake when I had a slight wardrobe malfunction...

             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP9irkNoMTI

             

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

Larry, the heater system looks great! I have not heard of "scat tube" before but I can see it on the side of the picture. I tried to look it up on the internet but all I came up with was a ton of porn sites. 



The enclosed front end sounds like the way to go. It isn't getting any warmer here in Minnesota any time soon. I'll have to look at some picts of that too and see if I can make one. I have seen a few pictures here and there.



The staple gun is probably a better way to go, I am kind of clumsy so I would hate to stab my self with a screwdriver trying to use the wood screws.

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lcottrell

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:39 pm Post subject: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

LOL, sorry about that. I am having trouble typing still, but I looked up a link for you.Larry

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/scat.php

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 Larry, the heater system looks great! I have not heard of "scat tube" before but I can see it on the side of the picture. I tried to look it up on the internet but all I came up with was a ton of porn sites.

 

 The enclosed front end sounds like the way to go. It isn't getting any warmer here in Minnesota any time soon. I'll have to look at some picts of that too and see if I can make one. I have seen a few pictures here and there.

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:02 am Post subject: Hat's off to Turtle lake WI.

West, SCAT tubing is well-known and used in nearly all certificated aircraft. 

Many sizes & styles. Check Aircraft Spruce.

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 Larry, the heater system looks great! I have not heard of "scat tube" before but I can see it on the side of the picture. I tried to look it up on the internet but all I came up with was a ton of porn sites. 

 

 The enclosed front end sounds like the way to go. It isn't getting any warmer here in Minnesota any time soon. I'll have to look at some picts of that too and see if I can make one. I have seen a few pictures here and there.

 

 The staple gun is probably a better way to go, I am kind of clumsy so I would hate to stab my self with a screwdriver trying to use the wood screws.

 

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