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Alan Carter



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:37 am    Post subject: Mogas from the garage. Reply with quote

Hello All.
This is just for UK Pilots.
Read in the LAA magazine to check the Ethanol content displayed at the garage petrol pump.
Just the Octane rating is displayed, and the staff don,t know what Ethanol is.
Is it a legal requirement to display the Ethanol content on the forecourt pump, and should the manager have the details of what is in his storage tanks. ????????????

Alan


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:58 am    Post subject: Mogas from the garage. Reply with quote

Hi Alan

I asked the same question the other day in my local Shell garage - they
could not even tell me the BS number despite searching about in the
office paperwork!

This would suggest it is not a requirement or if it is the local trading
standards people don't realize it.

Regards

Pete

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Hello All.
This is just for UK Pilots.
Read in the LAA magazine to check the Ethanol content displayed at the garage petrol pump.
Just the Octane rating is displayed, and the staff don,t know what Ethanol is.
Is it a legal requirement to display the Ethanol content on the forecourt pump, and should the manager have the details of what is in his storage tanks. ????????????

Alan


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Mogas from the garage. Reply with quote

Hi Peter.
Is it or , is it not a legal requirement .
Lets hope the LAA Legal team know, maybe they should be phoning the trading standards department.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:38 am    Post subject: Mogas from the garage. Reply with quote

Alan

I was very surprised that the garage could not tell me what the BS
number was for the fuel they were selling. I had expected to find that
on the pump.

Pete

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Hi Peter.
Is it or , is it not a legal requirement .
Lets hope the LAA Legal team know, maybe they should be phoning the trading standards department.

Alan


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject: Mogas from the garage. Reply with quote

Alan, Although the revised version of BS EN228 (2012) allows up to 10%
ethanol in fuel the maximum currently being used is 5%. This is technically
described as E5 fuel but I have never seen it described as such in the UK.
Most suppliers use a brand name. If you buy either 95 RON or 97 RON (
much preferred for R912ULS) you will be OK. I have not looked at all pumps
but most have a label on them saying "EN228".. Most suppliers are reluctant
to tell the public how much ethanol is in any particular batch of fuel. The
AA say that there is no requirement to label fuels using up to 5% ethanol
but it is legal requirement to label E10 (10% ethanol) - when it is
introduced at some time in the future. So, no label = up to 5% ethanol.

If you are unsure you should carry out the water test as described in TL
2.26 which should give you an estimate of how much ethanol is in the fuel.
Personally I have never got this test to work reliably but...

I hope this helps. These are the reasons it has taken so long to get Mogas
with ethanol approved for our use.

Regards

Brian Davies

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Mogas from the garage. Reply with quote

Hi Brian.
Many thanks for the information, I have heard that 97 has no Ethanol,
Some time ago I did a test with a jar and some water, and did notice a difference between the two, it appeared to confirm the 97 was Ethanol
free.

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Alan


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