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billvh@ca.rr.com

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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:04 pm Post subject: Stuck wheel

Trying to get the wheels off a 50 I'm working on. No amount of pounding on the tire will get either wheel to budge. (Yes I took off the nuts and washer.)

The backing plate is too thin to pry against. Anyone got a trick or special technique or tool to get the bearing to let go of the axle? BTW it took a 24 inch Johnson bar to get the nuts off.

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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:13 pm Post subject: Stuck wheel

Sounds like someone seriously over torqued the wheel nut and very possibly damaged/crushed the bearings.  Was there a washer behind the nut and in front of the cup?  If not, that is probably why the wheel nut was over torqued; to take up the space because of the missing washer. 

Try spraying the bearing with freezing type spray. You may try an electronics freezing spray or you could even try a can of the cheapest freon available at the auto supply store. 

Dennis



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 Trying to get the wheels off a 50 I'm working on. No amount of pounding on the tire will get either wheel to budge. (Yes I took off the nuts and washer.)

 The backing plate is too thin to pry against. Anyone got a trick or special technique or tool to get the bearing to let go of the axle? BTW it took a 24 inch Johnson bar to get the nuts off.

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:23 pm Post subject: Stuck wheel

I have but a short moment here but if the wheel and axle is the same as a CJ I have a tool for removing it.

Please do not call me until Tuesday.

oug

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 5:10 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

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 Sounds like someone seriously over torqued the wheel nut and very possibly damaged/crushed the bearings.Â  Was there a washer behind the nut and in front of the cup?Â  If not, that is probably why the wheel nut was over torqued; to take up the space because of the missing washer.

 Try spraying the bearing with freezing type spray. You may try an electronics freezing spray or you could even try a can of the cheapest freon available at the auto supply store.

 Dennis

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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:03 pm Post subject: Stuck wheel

Go to a Parker hose dealer they can fix you up.

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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:50 pm Post subject: Stuck wheel

Keith;



Seems to be two subjects here.



1. Yes,  unless Doug has another tool for pulling the wheel,  the puller is 

for the outer (large) bearing only - after the wheel is off.

2. Pipe thread is pipe thread, same everywhere as far as I know.  From 

ancient British steam days.  All you need is the correct size AN12 fitting. 

Believe it is a 1" pipe but just a guess.   Could check it out at the hangar 

tomorrow and call you with the P/N if you give me a phone number.



Walt



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jackpot

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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:31 pm Post subject: Stuck wheel

Gary here. LAS. PIPE THREADS ARE THE SAME THE WORLD OVER. NO SUCH THING AS A METRIC PIPE THREAD. 

CJ. N22YK. 



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 Keith;

 

 Seems to be two subjects here.

 

 1. Yes,  unless Doug has another tool for pulling the wheel,  the puller is for the outer (large) bearing only - after the wheel is off.

 2. Pipe thread is pipe thread, same everywhere as far as I know.  From ancient British steam days.  All you need is the correct size AN12 fitting. Believe it is a 1" pipe but just a guess.   Could check it out at the hangar tomorrow and call you with the P/N if you give me a phone number.

 

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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:25 pm Post subject: Stuck wheel

If you can pack the inside of the axel, the hollow portion with dry ice and keep it packed for about 2 hrs it may shrink the axel enough to allow you to pull the bearing off. I have had success using this procedure on quite a few things. 

Gary.  CJ N22YK 

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On Sep 27, 2015, at 17:20, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]I have but a short moment here but if the wheel and axle is the same as a CJ I have a tool for removing it.

Please do not call me until Tuesday.

oug

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 5:10 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

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 Sounds like someone seriously over torqued the wheel nut and very possibly damaged/crushed the bearings.  Was there a washer behind the nut and in front of the cup?  If not, that is probably why the wheel nut was over torqued; to take up the space because of the missing washer.

 Try spraying the bearing with freezing type spray. You may try an electronics freezing spray or you could even try a can of the cheapest freon available at the auto supply store.

 Dennis

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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:08 am Post subject: Re: Stuck wheel

Thanks Dennis. CRC makes a product called freeze and lube or something like that which I tried but was unable to get the axle cold enough to do the trick. And there was a double tang thick washer under the wheel nut. I have no idea why the folks at Termikas would tighten the nut to that extreme. My next move is what Gary  CJ N22YK suggested. It was going to be my next try but I thought I might get something off the list first.

Bill



 	  dsavarese0812(at)bellsout wrote: 	
		  Sounds like someone seriously over torqued the wheel nut and very possibly damaged/crushed the bearings.  Was there a washer behind the nut and in front of the cup?  If not, that is probably why the wheel nut was over torqued; to take up the space because of the missing washer. 

Try spraying the bearing with freezing type spray. You may try an electronics freezing spray or you could even try a can of the cheapest freon available at the auto supply store. 

Dennis



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 Trying to get the wheels off a 50 I'm working on. No amount of pounding on the tire will get either wheel to budge. (Yes I took off the nuts and washer.)

 The backing plate is too thin to pry against. Anyone got a trick or special technique or tool to get the bearing to let go of the axle? BTW it took a 24 inch Johnson bar to get the nuts off.

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:20 am Post subject: Stuck wheel

You may try freezing the bearing too.

Dennis



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Thanks Dennis. CRC makes a product called freeze and lube or something like that which I tried but was unable to get the axle cold enough to do the trick. And there was a double tang thick washer under the wheel nut. I have no idea why the folks at Termikas would tighten the nut to that extreme. My next move is what Gary  CJ N22YK suggested. It was going to be my next try but I thought I might get something off the list first.

Bill

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		   Sounds like someone seriously over torqued the wheel nut and very possibly damaged/crushed the bearings.  Was there a washer behind the nut and in front of the cup?  If not, that is probably why the wheel nut was over torqued; to take up the space because of the missing washer. 

 Try spraying the bearing with freezing type spray. You may try an electronics freezing spray or you could even try a can of the cheapest freon available at the auto supply store. 

 Dennis

 

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