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jmjones2000(at)mindspring
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:57 pm Post subject: Stratux Build

For those of you looking for an inexpensive solution for an ADS-B in (with AHRS if desired), this appears to be a relatively easy project. I am going to tackle it early next month.  



The website has step-by-step instructions and a list of exact parts to purchase.



https://github.com/ssokol/stratux/wiki/Stratux-Beginner's-Guide

markdonahue

Joined: 16 Dec 2012
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Location: bainbridge island washington

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:15 pm Post subject: Stratux Build

Would love to hear how your project works out and how difficult it is (was)

to get it put together an place in service.

Mark Donahue



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n992dn(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:40 pm Post subject: Stratux Build

Me too  

Would like to hear the progress, interesting......  

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NatiÂ Niv  



On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Mark Donahue <marktdonahue(at)comcast.net (marktdonahue(at)comcast.net)> wrote:

[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mark Donahue" <marktdonahue(at)comcast.net (marktdonahue(at)comcast.net)>

 

 Would love to hear how your project works out and how difficult it is (was)

 to get it put together an place in service.

 Mark Donahue

 

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yellowduckduo(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:59 pm Post subject: Stratux Build

I bought the exact items except the (battery) and it seems to work fine. 

I use fltplango (it's free) on an ipad.

To my surprise there were no tricks or hassles involved. Anyone who can 

type on this list and download a program should have no problem.

My only reservation is that it is one more thing to distract me from 

looking outside...

Ken



On 12/11/2015 7:55 PM, Justin Jones wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 For those of you looking for an inexpensive solution for an ADS-B in (with AHRS if desired), this appears to be a relatively easy project. I am going to tackle it early next month.



 The website has step-by-step instructions and a list of exact parts to purchase.



 https://github.com/ssokol/stratux/wiki/Stratux-Beginner's-Guide



   





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deej(at)deej.net
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:02 pm Post subject: Stratux Build

On 11/12/2015 7:55 PM, Justin Jones wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   For those of you looking for an inexpensive solution for an ADS-B in (with AHRS if desired), this appears to be a relatively easy project. I am going to tackle it early next month.


	




It is very easy.  I gathered the parts together and assembled it inside 

a 3D printed case during one of our EAA meetings.



I had a chance to fly with it a couple of weeks ago, and the 

iPad/Stratux/WingX combination saw the same ADS-B traffic as the 

SkyRadar/GRT-HX combination.



There is a beginners guide here:



https://github.com/ssokol/stratux/wiki/Stratux-Beginner's-Guide



The 3D case files can be found at:



http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1019324



-Dj

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Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87

Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/

Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/

bbradburry(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:48 am Post subject: Stratux Build

As I understand it, this device is an ADS-B in only.  Aren't we going to

need ADS-B out as well??



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deej(at)deej.net
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:57 am Post subject: Stratux Build

On 11/13/2015 11:47 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   As I understand it, this device is an ADS-B in only.  Aren't we going to

 need ADS-B out as well??


	




Correct, as of Jan 2020.



-Dj



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Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87

Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/

Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/

kboatright1(at)comcast.ne
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:04 am Post subject: Stratux Build

Yes, but there are some less expensive "out" options you could combine with the Stratux to wind up with a low cost overall solution.



Sent from my iPhone



[quote] On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:47 AM, "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry(at)verizon.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 As I understand it, this device is an ADS-B in only.  Aren't we going to

 need ADS-B out as well??

 

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jmjones2000(at)mindspring
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:22 am Post subject: Stratux Build

 	  Quote: 	
		   On Nov 14, 2015, at 01:47, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry(at)verizon.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 As I understand it, this device is an ADS-B in only.  Aren't we going to

 need ADS-B out as well??


	


It depends on the type of flying you do. If you fly in uncontrolled airspace under 10k feet and do not enter a mode C ring, then you won't need it. If you do that sort of flying, then you will. 



There are guys up here in Alaska without an electrical system, that fly in and out of Lake Hood (Class C and right next to Anchorage international). They will not need the "out" either. Many of them use an iPad and foreflight (or similar) to fly as it requires no aircraft power source. 





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schmoboy

Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 130

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:46 am Post subject: Stratux Build

Here's a good link to some videos.  Chapter two defines when 978 vs 1090ES.

http://www.freeflightsystems.com/ads-b-university

[quote] Justin Jones <mailto:jmjones2000(at)mindspring.com>

 November 13, 2015 at 11:21 AM

> On Nov 14, 2015, at 01:47, Bill Bradburry<bbradburry(at)verizon.net>  wrote:

>

> 

>

> As I understand it, this device is an ADS-B in only.  Aren't we going to

> need ADS-B out as well??

 It depends on the type of flying you do. If you fly in uncontrolled airspace under 10k feet and do not enter a mode C ring, then you won't need it. If you do that sort of flying, then you will.

 There are guys up here in Alaska without an electrical system, that fly in and out of Lake Hood (Class C and right next to Anchorage international). They will not need the "out" either. Many of them use an iPad and foreflight (or similar) to fly as it requires no aircraft power source.

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bbradburry(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:18 am Post subject: Stratux Build

What are those options?  Can both in and out be combined in one box?  Does

the Stratux have an out option?



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deej(at)deej.net
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:37 am Post subject: Stratux Build

On 11/13/2015 01:16 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   What are those options?  Can both in and out be combined in one box?  Does

 the Stratux have an out option?


	




Stratux is "IN" only, similar to SkyRadar, Stratus, and a bunch of other

ADS-B receive solutions.  It's claim to fame is the extreme low cost and

DIY nature.



There are "IN" and "OUT" solutions in a box.  Check out Navworx as one

example.



My installed "OUT" solution is a TT22 transponder with ES (ADS-B Out on

1090 Mhz) coupled to a GNS480 WAAS GPS position source, which at the

time was one of the lowest cost solutions overall, especially if you

already have an acceptable GPS position source.



My "IN" solution is a dual-band SkyRadar ADS-B receiver using USB to

talk to a GRT HX EFIS.



Cost and options are very dependent upon what equipment you already have

in your aircraft that might be usable for part of the ADS-B solution, or

if you are installing everything from scratch.



-Dj



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Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87

Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/

Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/

ceengland7(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:03 am Post subject: Stratux Build

There are quite a few options that are relatively inexpensive now, and 

I'm pretty confident that prices will continue to fall.



A mode S transponder with 'extended squitter' and a 'certified' WAAS GPS 

source is one way to get 'out' (1090 mhz), but far from the only way. 

The FAA is dancing around allowing uncertified boxes with built-in WAAS 

GPS that meet performance criteria to transmit into the 'system'. If 

that idea holds up, we should see in/out boxes for well under $2K pretty 

soon; possibly a lot cheaper.



In the short term, those of us who don't fly IFR & don't need to 

regularly enter Class B/C airspace can get by just fine with in only (or 

nothing).



The stratux is in-only, and it's very unlikely it will ever be more than 

that.



If you use an Android phone/tablet, there's an even cheaper solution 

than the stratux.



With

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ds.avare&hl=en

(free)

and

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bs.Avare.ADSB.Pro&hl=en

(~$3)

and

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P2UOU72?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

(~$22)

and

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B014AQOZSW?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

(~$5)

you can have a fully functional ADSB-in system that can receive both 978 

and 1090 mhz data (must be manually selected at this point, but I 

wouldn't be surprised to see auto switching implemented sometime soon).



I've got Avare & ADSB on Android running on an old Nexus 7 (original 

version). I've used Avare for a couple of years, but haven't had a 

chance to fly with the adsb add-on. It does pick up airliners & Mode S 

a/c flying in my area, even with me sitting on the ground. Once I'm in 

the air, I'll be able to get weather, notams, metars, etc in addition to 

(most) traffic. The limit on traffic if you don't have 'out', is that 

you're dependent on nearby a/c flying with 'out' to trigger traffic 

data, and the traffic they get (basically a donut of airspace around 

them) won't exactly match the donut of airspace around you. I can live 

with that, since I've been living with less since I started flying.



Charlie



On 11/13/2015 12:16 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote:

[quote] 



 What are those options?  Can both in and out be combined in one box?  Does

 the Stratux have an out option?



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efraim.otero(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:52 pm Post subject: Stratux Build

Cool!

We do not have ADS-B in South America and I find it difficult to justify forking up 800 dollars to buy a Stratus II to get AHRS and Virtual attitude data on my foreflight (which works amazing here in South America).

This sounds like an interesting project. Even though I have never really soldered anything well… it could work!!

(yes I am THAT incompetent! haha!)



Ephraim Otero



On Nov 12, 2015, at 8:58 PM, C&K <yellowduckduo(at)gmail.com> wrote:






I bought the exact items except the (battery) and it seems to work fine. I use fltplango (it's free) on an ipad.

To my surprise there were no tricks or hassles involved. Anyone who can type on this list and download a program should have no problem.

My only reservation is that it is one more thing to distract me from looking outside...

Ken



On 12/11/2015 7:55 PM, Justin Jones wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 For those of you looking for an inexpensive solution for an ADS-B in (with AHRS if desired), this appears to be a relatively easy project. I am going to tackle it early next month.

 

 The website has step-by-step instructions and a list of exact parts to purchase.

 

 https://github.com/ssokol/stratux/wiki/Stratux-Beginner's-Guide

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

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cyav8r(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:14 pm Post subject: Stratux Build

I had the L-3 NGT-9000 installed in my airplane and it does both in and out in a single box that replaced my KT76A. Traffic and weather products are displayed on the transponder touchscreen, and it also pushes TIS-B and FIS-B data to an iPad via wifi.

There are other options out there as well, this is just what I chose to do to get traffic on the panel without needing more 'stuff'. 

      From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry(at)verizon.net>

 To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:16 PM

 Subject: RE: Stratux Build

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry(at)verizon.net (bbradburry(at)verizon.net)>

What are those options?  Can both in and out be combined in one box?  Does

the Stratux have an out option?

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rampil

Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 870

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Stratux Build

"Even though I have never really soldered anything "



No soldering required. Some familiarity with Linux helps but not essential.

AHRS is not yet working well (as of 4r4) with a precession problem but it

is being worked on

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bbradburry(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:16 pm Post subject: Stratux Build

Well, ok, here is a request for suggestions.



What would be the best (cheapest!) option if I have the following avionics:



Garmin GNS430W Com/Nav/GPS

Garmin GTX327  Transponder

KMD150 MFD/GPS



I am considering purchasing a tablet as well, IPad or Galaxy.  What are the

recommendations here as well.



B2



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ceengland7(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:35 pm Post subject: Stratux Build

The *easiest* (and likely cheapest, due to minimal labor) path for 

'out', with a G430W already installed and a G327 tray installed, would 

probably be a G330 ES transponder for 'out', and just about any cheap 

'in' solution. Cheapest 'in' is an android phone/tablet running the 

Avare + SDR I described in the previous email (could be under $100 for a 

complete 'in' solution). Note that the above is purely plug & play; load 

the apps, plug in the cable to the tablet & SDR, and go.



But I'm in no hurry to install 'out'. Stuff will change. FAA says they 

won't move the deadline, but according to many sources, we're already 

too close to the deadline for existing shops to get all a/c upgraded in 

time. And regardless, the equipment will get cheaper.



Charlie



On 11/13/2015 6:15 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote:

[quote] 



 Well, ok, here is a request for suggestions.



 What would be the best (cheapest!) option if I have the following avionics:



 Garmin GNS430W Com/Nav/GPS

 Garmin GTX327  Transponder

 KMD150 MFD/GPS



 I am considering purchasing a tablet as well, IPad or Galaxy.  What are the

 recommendations here as well.



 B2



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bbradburry(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:46 am Post subject: Stratux Build

I think you can upgrade the GTX330 to the ES version for about $1K, but per

the Q&A at AC Spruce the GTX327 tray and harness is not interchangeable.

Will the GTX 330 ES fit the same rack as the GTX 327? How about the harness?

The Garmin GTX 330 ES and the GTX 327 use both different racks and

harnesses.



Bill 



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stephencliverichards(at)g
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:42 am Post subject: Stratux Build

A similar self build device using a raspberry Pi B+ is being developed as open source in the UK seeÂ http://www.pilotaware.com/ Â  for ADS-B in this will also provide ADS-B out for connection to a ES equipped transponder and transmission to another pilotaware device I will wait for further development & testing before I build one. I read some prototypes have been tested with a GPS plugin dongle & air pressure sensing boards added all at a low cost but transmitter needs further screening work to make reliable.I assume it would also be usable in USA

Clive



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 AHRS is not yet working well (as of 4r4) with a precession problem but it

 is being worked on

 

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