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what's this religious baloney on every posting of the Kolb list? I belong to confer with other Kolbers. i'm not here to be indoctrinated with religious doctrine..... Tim
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To: kolb-list-digest(at)matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15
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0. 09:39 AM - Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution Today! (Matt Dralle)
1. 03:40 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/21/15 (Theodore Cowan)
2. 05:30 AM - Auto Pilot (Denny Baber)
3. 06:53 AM - Re: Auto Pilot (Herb)
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Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
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Time: 03:40:04 AM PST US
From: Theodore Cowan <tc1917(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/21/15
I had same trouble this week on project with dark blue. Crap
Sent from my iPhone
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> 1. 04:44 PM - Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement (Richard Pike)
> 2. 05:02 PM - Re: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement (chris davis)
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> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
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> Time: 04:44:59 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement
> From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
>
>
> Do Not Archive.
>
> After 4 weeks of incredible frustration, I have finally resolved a frustrating
> painting situation, and I thought I would share it with you guys so that you
never
> have to go through the same aggravation, which revolves around Rustoleum
> 2X Ultracover Paint+Primer.
>
> Bought an old Honda street/trail bike and decided to restore/repaint it using
Rustoleum
> Metallic blue Metalflake. Assumed that it would be good to use the same
> brand paint from primer to clear coat. Finally discovered today that was a
> flawed assumption.
>
> Used Rustoleum 2X Paint/Primer for the primer coat. This is the sorriest thing/stupidest
> thing I have ever used or done. Painted and repainted and repainted
> (Never claimed to be smart) all 7 panels of the bike, and kept having the paint
> wrinkle up on me at various stages of the process.
>
> Corresponded back and forth 3 times with Rustoleum service help, no help.
>
> If you get the paint on just the least bit too wet, the Primer/Paint makes it
wrinkle,
> even if you give it 3 or 4 days between primer/paint/clear coat.
>
> Finally today I laid the color coat right onto the plain Honda 27 year old factory
> paint, (repaired and reused the front fender which I had not planned to use)
> it went on perfectly, and clear coated it ten minutes after the final color
> coat; it turned out perfectly. Turns out the culprit was the Rustoleum Primer/Paint.
> The Metallic Blue/Clear Coat worked flawlessly.
>
> So avoid this 2X Paint+Primer like the plague. End of rant. Thank you for putting
> up with this, may you avoid similar aggravation. Attachment is the rear fender,
> primered it Monday, color coat Thursday, clear coat today; Saturday - immediate
> wrinkles, as you can see. This was the 4th attempt on this part.
>
> Do Not Archive.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449861#449861
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040807_medium_271.jpg
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> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
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> Time: 05:02:52 PM PST US
> From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement
>
> Richard , thank you I am installing a 1920 claw foot tub in my upstairs bat
> h cleaned it up inside and sanded off the old =C2-paint went to thehardwa
> re stote abought a canof rustolium 2x dark red primer ithink i will take it
> back ! Thanks Chris
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Richard Pike<thegreybaron(at)charter.net> w
> er.net>
>
> Do Not Archive.
>
> After 4 weeks of incredible frustration, I have finally resolved a frustrat
> ing painting situation, and I thought I would share it with you guys so tha
> t you never have to go through the same aggravation, which revolves around
> Rustoleum 2X Ultracover Paint+Primer.
>
> Bought an old Honda street/trail bike and decided to restore/repaint it usi
> ng Rustoleum Metallic blue Metalflake. Assumed that it would be good to use
> the same brand paint from primer to clear coat. Finally discovered today t
> hat was a flawed assumption.
>
> Used Rustoleum 2X Paint/Primer for the primer coat. This is the sorriest th
> ing/stupidest thing I have ever used or done. Painted and repainted and rep
> ainted (Never claimed to be smart) all 7 panels of the bike, and kept havin
> g the paint wrinkle up on me at various stages of the process.
>
> Corresponded back and forth 3 times with Rustoleum service help, no help.
>
> If you get the paint on just the least bit too wet, the Primer/Paint makes
> it wrinkle, even if you give it 3 or 4 days between primer/paint/clear coat
> ..
>
> Finally today I laid the color coat right onto the plain Honda 27 year old
> factory paint, (repaired and reused the front fender which I had not planne
> d to use)=C2- it went on perfectly, and clear coated it ten minutes after
> the final color coat; it turned out perfectly. Turns out the culprit was t
> he Rustoleum Primer/Paint. The Metallic Blue/Clear Coat worked flawlessly.
>
> So avoid this 2X Paint+Primer like the plague. End of rant. Thank you for p
> utting up with this, may you avoid similar aggravation. Attachment is the r
> ear fender, primered it Monday, color coat Thursday, clear coat today; Satu
> rday - immediate wrinkles, as you can see. This was the 4th attempt on this
> part.
>
> Do Not Archive.
>
> --------
> Richard Pike
> Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
> Kingsport, TN 3TN0
>
> Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449861#449861
>
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> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1040807_medium_271.jpg
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________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 05:30:51 AM PST US
Subject: Kolb-List: Auto Pilot
From: Denny Baber <baberdk(at)gmail.com>
I thought this is interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQbwz12ykUo&list=TLE-NlfdTSFhsyMjExMjAxNQ
Respectfully,
Dennis Baber
(305) 814-7218
baberdk(at)gmail.com
Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 06:53:37 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Auto Pilot
From: Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com>
The actual electronics is certainly similar to the 10 Dof
board...."degrees of Freedon"... it incorporates a solid state 3 axis
qyro,Triple axis magnetometer, 3 axis accelerometer..and barometer for
altitude.... $7 dollars and 47 cents.. on ebay.. Think I paid 9 bucks...
It can be set up to communicate with the Arduino processor board...which
can be programmed to communicate with a display and to drive the
servos. The processor board cost 5 bucks or so..mostly from China or
Hong Kong for the knock off versions.. The original Arduino was
developed in Italy...and therefore cost more...
the 10 dof is the size of ones thumb...and the Arduino is credit
card size..
I got the hots for an auto pilot experiment for my current
Firefly....and bought these two boards along with the Raspberry Pi (35
bucks) which is also capable of taking the 10 dof board inputs...and
driving a video display...
Most of the canned software is out there... written in some version
of C language..
You tube has several videos showing the operation of a makeshift auto
pilot using these devices...Herb
On 11/22/2015 07:29 AM, Denny Baber wrote:
> I thought this is interesting.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQbwz12ykUo&list=TLE-NlfdTSFhsyMjExMjAxNQ
>
>
> Respectfully,
> Dennis Baber
> (305) 814-7218 <tel:%28305%29%20814-7218>
> baberdk(at)gmail.com <mailto:baberdk(at)gmail.com>
> Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.
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TimSome of our members are ministers/clergy of some sort, and that’s just what they do, The rest of us can easily ignore it.
Guess that’s ‘freedom of speech’
Russ K
| Quote: | On Nov 23, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Tim Hrib <tim_hrib(at)hotmail.com (tim_hrib(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
what's this religious baloney on every posting of the Kolb list? I belong to confer with other Kolbers. i'm not here to be indoctrinated with religious doctrine..... Tim > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:03:11 -0800> From: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)> To: kolb-list-digest(at)matronics.com (kolb-list-digest(at)matronics.com)> Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15> > *> > =========================> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive> =========================> > Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version:> > dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>> Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution> Today!> > > Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone> that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way> of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation> for the Lists. > > Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors> (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems> at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine> subscription! > > Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the> Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your> Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: > > tc1917(at)bellsouth.net (tc1917(at)bellsouth.net)>> Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/21/15> > > I had same trouble this week on project with dark blue. Crap> > Sent from my iPhone> > > Sent from my iPhone> > On Nov 22, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Kolb-List Digest Server <kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)>> wrote:> > > > *> > > > ========================> > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive> > ========================> > > > Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the > > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > > of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > > > HTML Version:> > > > thegreybaron(at)charter.net (thegreybaron(at)charter.net)>> > > > > > Do Not Archive.> > > > After 4 weeks of incredible frustration, I have finally resolved a frustrating> > painting situation, and I thought I would share it with you guys so that you> never> > have to go through the same aggravation, which revolves around Rustoleum> > 2X Ultracover Paint+Primer.> > > > Bought an old Honda street/trail bike and decided to restore/repaint it using> Rustoleum> > Metallic blue Metalflake. Assumed that it would be good to use the same> > brand paint from primer to clear coat. Finally discovered today that was a> > flawed assumption. > > > > Used Rustoleum 2X Paint/Primer for the primer coat. This is the sorriest thing/stupidest> > thing I have ever used or done. Painted and repainted and repainted> > (Never claimed to be smart) all 7 panels of the bike, and kept having the paint> > wrinkle up on me at various stages of the process. > > > > Corresponded back and forth 3 times with Rustoleum service help, no help.> > > > If you get the paint on just the least bit too wet, the Primer/Paint makes it> wrinkle,> > even if you give it 3 or 4 days between primer/paint/clear coat.> > > > Finally today I laid the color coat right onto the plain Honda 27 year old factory> > paint, (repaired and reused the front fender which I had not planned to use)> > it went on perfectly, and clear coated it ten minutes after the final color> > coat; it turned out perfectly. Turns out the culprit was the Rustoleum Primer/Paint.> > The Metallic Blue/Clear Coat worked flawlessly.> > > > So avoid this 2X Paint+Primer like the plague. End of rant. Thank you for putting> > up with this, may you avoid similar aggravation. Attachment is the rear fender,> > primered it Monday, color coat Thursday, clear coat today; Saturday - immediate> > wrinkles, as you can see. This was the 4th attempt on this part.> > > > Do Not Archive.> > > > --------> > Richard Pike> > Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)> > Kingsport, TN 3TN0> > > > Would you consider yourself to be a good person?> > capedavis(at)yahoo.com (capedavis(at)yahoo.com)>> > Subject: Re: Non-Kolb rant/public service announcement> > > > Richard , thank you I am installing a 1920 claw foot tub in my upstairs bat> > h cleaned it up inside and sanded off the old =C2-paint went to thehardwa> > re stote abought a canof rustolium 2x dark red primer ithink i will take it> > back ! Thanks Chris> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Richard Pike<thegreybaron(at)charter.net (thegreybaron(at)charter.net)> w> > baberdk(at)gmail.com (baberdk(at)gmail.com)>> > I thought this is interesting.> > baberdk(at)gmail.com (baberdk(at)gmail.com)> Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.> > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________> > > Time: 06:53:37 AM PST US> Subject: Re: Auto Pilot> From: Herb <Herbgh(at)nctc.com (Herbgh(at)nctc.com)>> > The actual electronics is certainly similar to the 10 Dof > board...."degrees of Freedon"... it incorporates a solid state 3 axis > qyro,Triple axis magnetometer, 3 axis accelerometer..and barometer for > altitude.... $7 dollars and 47 cents.. on ebay.. Think I paid 9 bucks...> > It can be set up to communicate with the Arduino processor board...which > can be programmed to communicate with a display and to drive the > servos. The processor board cost 5 bucks or so..mostly from China or > Hong Kong for the knock off versions.. The original Arduino was > developed in Italy...and therefore cost more...> > the 10 dof is the size of ones thumb...and the Arduino is credit > card size...> > I got the hots for an auto pilot experiment for my current > Firefly....and bought these two boards along with the Raspberry Pi (35 > bucks) which is also capable of taking the 10 dof board inputs...and > driving a video display...> > Most of the canned software is out there... written in some version > of C language..> > You tube has several videos showing the operation of a makeshift auto > pilot using these devices...Herb> > On 11/22/2015 07:29 AM, Denny Baber wrote:> > I thought this is interesting.> >> > baberdk(at)gmail.com (baberdk(at)gmail.com) <mailto:baberdk(at)gmail.com (baberdk(at)gmail.com)>> > Receive gracefully and share; that's all there is.> > -- > Signature text; Add catchy phrase here..> > > ======================>======================>=====================> > > >
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:24 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15 |
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Tim, What someone puts on their posts as a tag line or sign off is easy
enough to ignore if it's a bother. How about we just keep to Kolb issues in
our comments and discussions and let tag lines just take care of themselves
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Seems like a lot of people these days spend their time trying to find something to offend them. If this post offends you; believe me, there are worse things in life to be offended by.
Just to keep it Kolb related. I'm making a mount below the nose for the action cam. The next video should be a little more exciting.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:43 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 11/22/15 |
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Atta Boy on both counts. I looked for the offending words and couldn't find them, must have been on an attachment or some other obscure place.
As for the mount under the nose, make it as solid as you can. You will probably find that there are certain RPM's that do not shake or jello. I suggest that on you initial flight, test that by flying at an rpm for a while, then go through the rest keeping track of which is which. You will probably find that the faster speeds will be the best. Let me know what you find.
Hang in there,
Larry
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Seems like a lot of people these days spend their time trying to find something to offend them. If this post offends you; believe me, there are worse things in life to be offended by.
Just to keep it Kolb related. I'm making a mount below the nose for the action cam. The next video should be a little more exciting.
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RE: "As for the mount under the nose, make it as solid as you can."
Are you SURE a camera under the nose is a good idea? Kolbs are a bit too easy to nose over; especially when trying to get unstuck with throttle (don't ask me how I know).
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Jerry,
See attached pictures. I made a combination nose skid, pull handle, pitot and static tube mount under the nose. I will mount the camera on the upper portion of that mount. I have never had a problem nosing over except for one time when I failed to tie down the tail properly when testing the engine. The nose skid saved me from having to repair my nose cone.
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