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Tim Olson
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 Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:02 am Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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I've heard many stories of them breaking and taking out a wheel fairing in the process. That's how the aftermarket ones came into existence.
I would never fly with the stock ones.
Bill's story of his breaking is the first I've heard of those breaking. Any others out there? If I'd have known, I'd have sent him my one spare.
But now days you can get them from Cleaveland.
If those broke, the stock ones wouldn't have made it anywhere near that long.
Tim
| Quote: | On Jan 2, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> wrote:
I had the original parts on a plane and one side broke, taking the wheel pant with it. The bolt holding the rod to the axle nut is what broke. I won't use the stock part. If a plane comes into my shop with them, I replace them with the aftermarket parts.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
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F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 2, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> wrote:
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> The aftermarket extension was the very first accessory I bought for my '10 back in 1996. It finally flew late in 2011 when I put the pants on after engine break-in. A little over 500 hours and approximately 150 operations off of a grass strip, one of the extension ends stripped and had to be replaced.
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> I like the aftermarket part - it looks good and appropriate to the task. My guess is that the original axle extension works just fine as well though it doesn't quite look up the stresses and strains I imagine the part enduring. Key words here are 'like', 'guess', 'look' and 'imagine'. I don't recall anyone here actually having a bad experience with the original part or design (?).
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> If I were building again I think I'd use the original part and if it failed, replace it with the aftermarket one.
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>> On 12/31/2015 5:45 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
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>> I have the original axel extension and fly out of grass strip. 1100+ hours and no issues.
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>> Do not archive.
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>> Rob Kermanj
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Dec 30, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Bob Turner <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
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>>> IIRC, The stock axle extensions are just cut from hex-cross section stock. They are too small in diameter, the larger diameter after-market replacements are very desirable - I'd say necessary.
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>>> RV-10 QB
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Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:03 am Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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Well, based on the feedback from Jesse and Tim (and others), you were right. And even though I couldn't recall hearing about any myself, looks like I made the right decision in buying a set of yours back in the day. They served me well in a pretty tough environment. Thanks for the design and the part!
BTW, I was hoping some folks would pipe in with accounts of the original design failing... it's always nice to know one made a good choice.
Bill "proud owner of a 2020 legal ADS-B UAT installation - finally" Watson
On 1/2/2016 10:56 AM, Don McDonald wrote:
| Quote: | Here's the reason I made the extensions.... I thought the originals were wimpy. So after making 1 set for my plane, a friend of mine, with a 10 already flying, stopped by and saw them on my plane. Thought they looked a lot better.... well not 3 weeks later he came by and asked if I could make him a pair because one of his broke. At that point, I gave him mine and made up a bunch of them.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Really wouldn't want to be 1,000 miles from home with a broken one.
Don McDonald
From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Finishing kit mods
--> RV10-List message posted by: Bill Watson <[url=mailto:Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com]Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)[/url]>
The aftermarket extension was the very first accessory I bought for my
'10 back in 1996. It finally flew late in 2011 when I put the pants on
after engine break-in. A little over 500 hours and approximately 150
operations off of a grass strip, one of the extension ends stripped and
had to be replaced.
I like the aftermarket part - it looks good and appropriate to the
task. My guess is that the original axle extension works just fine as
well though it doesn't quite look up the stresses and strains I imagine
the part enduring. Key words here are 'like', 'guess', 'look' and
'imagine'. I don't recall anyone here actually having a bad experience
with the original part or design (?).
If I were building again I think I'd use the original part and if it
failed, replace it with the aftermarket one.
On 12/31/2015 5:45 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com (flysrv10(at)gmail.com)>
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> I have the original axel extension and fly out of grass strip. 1100+ hours and no issues.
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> Do not archive.
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> Rob Kermanj
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Dec 30, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Bob Turner <[url=mailto:bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu]bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu (bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu)[/url]> wrote:
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>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu (bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu)>
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>> IIRC, The stock axle extensions are just cut from hex-cross section stock. They are too small in diameter, the larger diameter after-market replacements are very desirable - I'd say necessary.
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ogdenk
Joined: 05 Feb 2007
Posts: 41
Location: Syracuse, NY
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:21 pm Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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Thanks everyone for all of the feedback and suggestions. I've decided that I will omit these parts, and get the Matco parts and use Desser for the tires/leakguard tubes. I understand this is probably overkill on the brakes for typical operations, but several scenarios were mentioned by some of you that I hadn't thought of where maximum braking power would be good.
Kent
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rene(at)felker.com
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:51 pm Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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Kent, sorry for not chiming in sooner. I think you are making the right decision on the brakes. Hot (temp), high (altitude), and heavy landings always end in some brake fade. Maybe it is just bad performance by the pilot (me), but I wish I had better braking. Matco brakes are in my future.
I am coming up on 600 hours and I rebuilt my brakes just last week. I think I will be able to justify them next year.
Rene'
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kent Ogden
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 6:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Finishing kit mods
Thanks everyone for all of the feedback and suggestions. I've decided that I will omit these parts, and get the Matco parts and use Desser for the tires/leakguard tubes.
I understand this is probably overkill on the brakes for typical operations, but several scenarios were mentioned by some of you that I hadn't thought of where maximum braking power would be good.
Kent
2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10
2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10
1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR
1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6
1.00 U-00011 GROVE WHL&BRK 6X6.00
1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:51 pm Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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I will remind all the newer builders. Desser also sells the windows and nav light covers under their Cee Baileys company. The windscreen is not a perfect buy and install but rather a buy and "final fine tune" fit for the specific build. It WILL save you hours of work putting the windscreen on and off dozens of times. The quality is also much better than the acrylic Vans provides in the kits.
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/categories/RV%252d10/Airframe-Parts/
Pascal
On 1/4/2016 5:17 PM, Kent Ogden wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks everyone for all of the feedback and suggestions. I've decided that I will omit these parts, and get the Matco parts and use Desser for the tires/leakguard tubes. I understand this is probably overkill on the brakes fortypical operations, but several scenarios were mentioned by some of you that I hadn't thought of where maximum braking power would be good.
Kent
2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10
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1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6
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1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS
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Kelly McMullen
Joined: 16 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:34 pm Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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Are you getting brake fade with 5606 or the better brake fluid? Do you purge your brake fluid every 2 or 3 years? Do you typically use runways less than say 2500 ft? Do you normally land with less than full flaps? Just trying to understand whether there are factors beyond the OAT and DA. I don't recall any certified aircraft in the weight range that come with more than single puck brakes. I know touble puck get fitted to the C180 and are stock on C185.
What does the Cirrus have for brakes since it lands faster and is probably heavier?
-sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Rene <rene(at)felker.com (rene(at)felker.com)> wrote:
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Kent, sorry for not chiming in sooner. I think you are making the right decision on the brakes. Hot (temp), high (altitude), and heavy landings always end in some brake fade. Maybe it is just bad performance by the pilot (me), but I wish I had better braking. Matco brakes are in my future.
I am coming up on 600 hours and I rebuilt my brakes just last week. I think I will be able to justify them next year.
Rene'
[url=tel:801-721-6080]801-721-6080[/url]
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Kent Ogden
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 6:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Finishing kit mods
Thanks everyone for all of the feedback and suggestions. I've decided that I will omit these parts, and get the Matco parts and use Desser for the tires/leakguard tubes.
I understand this is probably overkill on the brakes for typical operations, but several scenarios were mentioned by some of you that I hadn't thought of where maximum braking power would be good.
Kent
2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10
2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10
1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR
1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6
1.00 U-00011 GROVE WHL&BRK 6X6.00
1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:25 pm Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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5606.
Yes….every two to 3 years
I use longer runways……..but the tower request early turnout…..”if able”.
The RV-10 lands faster and is a lot cleaner than the Cessna’s.
The bottom line for me is more margin in breaking would be better and well worth the extra $$. But, 430 to a 430W and an unexpected screen failure used up all my maintenance money this year…..
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 7:31 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Finishing kit mods
Are you getting brake fade with 5606 or the better brake fluid? Do you purge your brake fluid every 2 or 3 years? Do you typically use runways less than say 2500 ft? Do you normally land with less than full flaps? Just trying to understand whether there are factors beyond the OAT and DA. I don't recall any certified aircraft in the weight range that come with more than single puck brakes. I know touble puck get fitted to the C180 and are stock on C185.
What does the Cirrus have for brakes since it lands faster and is probably heavier?
-sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Rene <rene(at)felker.com (rene(at)felker.com)> wrote:
Kent, sorry for not chiming in sooner. I think you are making the right decision on the brakes. Hot (temp), high (altitude), and heavy landings always end in some brake fade. Maybe it is just bad performance by the pilot (me), but I wish I had better braking. Matco brakes are in my future.
I am coming up on 600 hours and I rebuilt my brakes just last week. I think I will be able to justify them next year.
Rene'
[url=tel:801-721-6080]801-721-6080[/url]
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Kent Ogden
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 6:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Finishing kit mods
Thanks everyone for all of the feedback and suggestions. I've decided that I will omit these parts, and get the Matco parts and use Desser for the tires/leakguard tubes.
I understand this is probably overkill on the brakes for typical operations, but several scenarios were mentioned by some of you that I hadn't thought of where maximum braking power would be good.
Kent
2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10
2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10
1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR
1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6
1.00 U-00011 GROVE WHL&BRK 6X6.00
1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS
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Kellym
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:55 pm Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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Yes, faster than Cessnas, not faster than Mooneys, which have single
puck Clevelands until their gross went over 2800. I don't waste my
brakes on tower request unless I can easily do it or I really want to do
it. Most towered airports have plenty of runway. Glazed brakes can
easily feel like fading and a lot less braking for given pedal pressure.
More braking can easily equate to tire flat spotting.
Utility Cessnas get bigger brakes to handle torque of bigger tires, i.e.
bush use.
I was asking about Cirrus brakes, with their higher landing speeds.
Don't know what they have.
I think you might get less fade with the higher temp brake fluid.
Doesn't cost much to try.
On 1/4/2016 8:22 PM, Rene wrote:
| Quote: | 5606.
Yes….every two to 3 years
I use longer runways……..but the tower request early turnout…..”if able”.
The RV-10 lands faster and is a lot cleaner than the Cessna’s.
The bottom line for me is more margin in breaking would be better and
well worth the extra $$. But, 430 to a 430W and an unexpected screen
failure used up all my maintenance money this year…..
*From:*owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Kelly McMullen
*Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2016 7:31 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: Finishing kit mods
Are you getting brake fade with 5606 or the better brake fluid? Do you
purge your brake fluid every 2 or 3 years? Do you typically use runways
less than say 2500 ft? Do you normally land with less than full flaps?
Just trying to understand whether there are factors beyond the OAT and
DA. I don't recall any certified aircraft in the weight range that come
with more than single puck brakes. I know touble puck get fitted to the
C180 and are stock on C185.
What does the Cirrus have for brakes since it lands faster and is
probably heavier?
-sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Rene <rene(at)felker.com
<mailto:rene(at)felker.com>> wrote:
Kent, sorry for not chiming in sooner. I think you are making the right
decision on the brakes. Hot (temp), high (altitude), and heavy landings
always end in some brake fade. Maybe it is just bad performance by the
pilot (me), but I wish I had better braking. Matco brakes are in my
future.
I am coming up on 600 hours and I rebuilt my brakes just last week. I
think I will be able to justify them next year.
Rene'
801-721-6080 <tel:801-721-6080>
*From:*owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Kent Ogden
*Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2016 6:17 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
*Subject:* Re: Finishing kit mods
Thanks everyone for all of the feedback and suggestions. I've decided
that I will omit these parts, and get the Matco parts and use Desser for
the tires/leakguard tubes.
I understand this is probably overkill on the brakes for typical
operations, but several scenarios were mentioned by some of you that I
hadn't thought of where maximum braking power would be good.
Kent
2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10
2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10
1.00 U 5:00X5-6 6 PLY TIRE MAIN GEAR
1.00 U 5:00X5-6IT TUBE FOR 5:005-6
1.00 U-00011 GROVE WHL&BRK 6X6.00
1.00 U NW501.25 NOSE WHEEL W/BEARINGS
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:12 pm Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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On 01/04/2016 08:51 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
| Quote: | I think you might get less fade with the higher temp brake fluid.
Doesn't cost much to try.
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Higher temp brake fluid just moves the boiling point of the fluid, and
won't help with fade at all. If you're boiling fluid, you'll
know--mushy brakes and no braking. If you want to fix fade, you need
higher temp pads.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:26 am Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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I queried a friend with a Cirrus ......
"There are 4 brake linings and 4 pucks on my brakes as far as I know."
I think he really has two pucks .......
Linn
On 1/4/2016 10:51 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
| Quote: |
Yes, faster than Cessnas, not faster than Mooneys, which have single
puck Clevelands until their gross went over 2800. I don't waste my
brakes on tower request unless I can easily do it or I really want to
do it. Most towered airports have plenty of runway. Glazed brakes can
easily feel like fading and a lot less braking for given pedal pressure.
More braking can easily equate to tire flat spotting.
Utility Cessnas get bigger brakes to handle torque of bigger tires,
i.e. bush use.
I was asking about Cirrus brakes, with their higher landing speeds.
Don't know what they have.
I think you might get less fade with the higher temp brake fluid.
Doesn't cost much to try.
On 1/4/2016 8:22 PM, Rene wrote:
> 5606.
>
> Yes….every two to 3 years
>
> I use longer runways……..but the tower request early turnout…..”if able”.
>
> The RV-10 lands faster and is a lot cleaner than the Cessna’s.
>
> The bottom line for me is more margin in breaking would be better and
> well worth the extra $$. But, 430 to a 430W and an unexpected screen
> failure used up all my maintenance money this year…..
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Kelly
> McMullen
> *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2016 7:31 PM
> *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Finishing kit mods
>
> Are you getting brake fade with 5606 or the better brake fluid? Do you
> purge your brake fluid every 2 or 3 years? Do you typically use runways
> less than say 2500 ft? Do you normally land with less than full flaps?
> Just trying to understand whether there are factors beyond the OAT and
> DA. I don't recall any certified aircraft in the weight range that come
> with more than single puck brakes. I know touble puck get fitted to the
> C180 and are stock on C185.
>
> What does the Cirrus have for brakes since it lands faster and is
> probably heavier?
> -sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Rene <rene(at)felker.com
> <mailto:rene(at)felker.com>> wrote:
>
> Kent, sorry for not chiming in sooner. I think you are making the right
> decision on the brakes. Hot (temp), high (altitude), and heavy landings
> always end in some brake fade. Maybe it is just bad performance by the
> pilot (me), but I wish I had better braking. Matco brakes are in my
> future.
>
> I am coming up on 600 hours and I rebuilt my brakes just last week. I
> think I will be able to justify them next year.
>
> Rene'
>
> 801-721-6080 <tel:801-721-6080>
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> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Kent Ogden
> *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2016 6:17 PM
> *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Finishing kit mods
>
> Thanks everyone for all of the feedback and suggestions. I've decided
> that I will omit these parts, and get the Matco parts and use Desser for
> the tires/leakguard tubes.
>
> I understand this is probably overkill on the brakes for typical
> operations, but several scenarios were mentioned by some of you that I
> hadn't thought of where maximum braking power would be good.
>
> Kent
>
> 2.00 U 15X6.0-6 MAIN TIRE 6 PLY RV-10
> 2.00 U 15X6.0-6IT INNER TUBE MAIN RV-10
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Kellym
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| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:41 am Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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I agree, likely double puck brakes, 4 pads per caliper. It is heavier
at 3400 lbs and stall speed of 60kts vs the -10 at 55kts (at) 2700 gross
wt. So obvious need for more effective brakes.
On 1/5/2016 6:23 AM, Linn Walters wrote:
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I queried a friend with a Cirrus ......
"There are 4 brake linings and 4 pucks on my brakes as far as I know."
I think he really has two pucks .......
Linn
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Albert Gardner
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| Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:42 pm Post subject: Finishing kit mods |
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What is the Rapco pad no. for the Matco brakes?
Thanks, Albert Gardner
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woxofswa
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Finishing kit mods |
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Definitely suggest the matco nose wheel assembly.
I am just fine with the Van's brakes. They have never seemed inadequate to me. There are a lot of disadvantages to too much braking power in my opinion. A locked wheel actually takes longer to stop and a tire change in BFE is no fun.
As far as tires go, I would get the Monster retreads and then set up and size the wheel pants accordingly. They are a great tire for the money, but they need more room. Bigger wood block on top of the tire during the geometry phase). I have 220+ hours on mine and they are still going strong. (dislcaimer, only one touch and go in the aircraft log). You can always use the shorter tires if you want but if you set up for the shorter ones it would be a huge pain to dial in the monsters. Even if they weren't cheaper, I would still run the Monsters. Since they're cheaper they are a no brainer IMO. Some guys with low slung pants just can't use them.
You might lose a fraction of a knot by having the pants set higher with more rubber in the breeze, but you'll appreciate the extra clearance on rougher strips.
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johngoodman
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Finishing kit mods |
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Folks,
I got an e-mail from a guy in England who is having trouble logging in. Looks like he's looking for something like this thread. Anyway, I'll post his e-mail below:
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Hi John
I am on the matronics register but for some reason I don’t seem to be able to get in even reregistering doesn’t work, I’m not sure if there a problem or its down to the guy not being very well but I can’t get in .
I wonder if you could ask if anyone has an up to date list of parts in this kit I need to consider what I’m not going to buy from vans
I have tried Vans but can only get a sample list which seems to have loads of bits missing there not very helpful at all, Seem a bit arrogant to me I can’t treat my customers this way
In anticipation thanks for your help
Best Regards Roy
Roy Arrowsmith
Woodford Woodworking Machinery and Tooling Ltd
Unit 8-13,
Long Field Farm Ind Estate
Hall Moss Lane
Cheshire
England
SK7 1RB
www.woodfordtooling.com
Tel -0044 -161 439 5683
Mob - 07836 210 489
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