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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:20 am    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

Auto plug conversion kit?Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?
The separation plates for the mags are anodized red.  NGK plugs.  Red wires, with no markings.  No instructions are in the box.
Who made this kit?  Has anyone had good luck with this product?
Thank you!
John B
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     1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (A. Dennis Savarese)
     2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (Ernest Martinez)
     3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (George Coy)



________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil ma
y not generate an adequate spark.
The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical component
s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the starti
ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.=C2- If t
he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you pre
ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag cap and then to the spark plug.
After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and ch
eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the points
to remove any mounds with a point file.
Dennis


      From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
 To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
 Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
 Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the starting
 vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low in
 base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to s
tart.
Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the originals
from Russia hold up well? =C2-
Thank you!
john b
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two air ta
nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable t
hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.=C2- Win
g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
 routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the first t
o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric A
vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.=C2-Jimmy
=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-serv ([email]owner-yak-list-serv[/email])
er(at)matronics.com (er(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the turtle de
ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine
on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive b
acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc

Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this instal
lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin
=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com (BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com)


________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)>

These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil
> may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
> components on the airplane.   The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.  I
f
> the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you
> press the start button.  That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag
> cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and
> check the points for mounding.  If necessary you can burnish the points t
o
> remove any mounds with a point file.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
> starting vibrator?  I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and l
ow
> in base voltage.  It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to
> start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?  Do the originals fro
m
> Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response.  Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks
> which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable tha
t
> require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.  Wing tips
> are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
> routing the wiring through the wing.  Looks like I may be the first to pu
t
> a G3X in a TW.
>
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a
> Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>
> Jimmy
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:
> owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dyno
n
> in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first
> with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you d
o
> not like it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
>
> I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a
 place to
> install the magnetometer (GMU22).  Has anyone done this installation in a
> TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require
ments for
> the magnetometer?
>
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
>
>

________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>


Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially if the battery voltage is low.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
> <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:
>
>     If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
>     starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>
>     The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
>     components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
>     starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
>     cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
>     (ground) when you press the start button.  That would prevent the
>     spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>
>     After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
>     container and check the points for mounding.  If necessary you can
>     burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>
>     Dennis
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
>     *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
>     <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
>     Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
>     starting vibrator?  I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
>     old, and low in base voltage.  It was cool today, and the airplane
>     was difficult to start.
>
>     Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?  Do the
>     originals from Russia hold up well?
>
>     Thank you!
>     john b
>
>     On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
>     <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
>         Thanks for the response.  Area behind the rear seat has the
>         two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
>         fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
>         the rear landing gear assembly.  Wing tips are a possibility,
>         but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
>         wiring through the wing.  Looks like I may be the first to put
>         a G3X in a TW.
>         Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
>         suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>         Jimmy
>         *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>         <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
>         [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>         <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
>         *Roger Kemp
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
>         *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
>         *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>         Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
>         for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
>         the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
>         That way you can move it if you do not like it.
>         Doc
>
>         Sent from my iPad
>
>         On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
>         <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
>             Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
>             located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22).  Has
>             anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
>             on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
>             magnetometer?
>             Jimmy Burke
>             Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>
>
>


________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)>


We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was aimed at the homebuilders
who want to use a 12 V system
George
Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
wrote:
>
>
> Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.  Especially
if the battery voltage is low.
> Dennis
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> [url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
> www.yak-52.com
> Skype - Yakguy1
>
>> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
>> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>>
>> Ernie
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:
>>
>>    If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
>>    starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>>
>>    The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
>>    components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
>>    starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
>>    cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
>>    (ground) when you press the start button.  That would prevent the
>>    spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>>
>>    After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
>>    container and check the points for mounding.  If necessary you can
>>    burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>>
>>    Dennis
>>
>>
>>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>    *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
>>    *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
>>    <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
>>    *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
>>    *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>>
>>    Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
>>    starting vibrator?  I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
>>    old, and low in base voltage.  It was cool today, and the airplane
>>    was difficult to start.
>>
>>    Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?  Do the
>>    originals from Russia hold up well?
>>
>>    Thank you!
>>    john b
>>
>>    On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
>>    <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>>
>>        Thanks for the response.  Area behind the rear seat has the
>>        two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
>>        fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
>>        the rear landing gear assembly.  Wing tips are a possibility,
>>        but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
>>        wiring through the wing.  Looks like I may be the first to put
>>        a G3X in a TW.
>>        Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
>>        suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>>        Jimmy
>>        *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>>        <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
>>        [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>>        <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
>>        *Roger Kemp
>>        *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
>>        *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
>>        *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>>        Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
>>        for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
>>        the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
>>        That way you can move it if you do not like it.
>>        Doc
>>
>>        Sent from my iPad
>>
>>        On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
>>        <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>>
>>            Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
>>            located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22).  Has
>>            anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
>>            on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
>>            magnetometer?
>>            Jimmy Burke
>>            Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>
>
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:03 am    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

Interesting! We get our kits, of which we use many, from Doug, and we agreed a form of exclusivity for red wires, rather than the standard blue. But I'm sure this is not one of ours, since our separation plates are anodised black, and indeed we manufacture these in Hungary and then add them to the kits that we install!

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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: 07 February 2016 16:04
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16


Auto plug conversion kit?
Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?

The separation plates for the mags are anodized red. NGK plugs. Red wires, with no markings. No instructions are in the box.

Who made this kit? Has anyone had good luck with this product?

Thank you!

John B

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 1:03 AM, Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)> wrote:
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (Ernest Martinez)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (George Coy)

________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil ma
y not generate an adequate spark.
The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical component
s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the starti
ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.=C2- If t
he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you pre
ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag cap and then to the spark plug.
After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and ch
eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the points
to remove any mounds with a point file.
Dennis
From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the starting
vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low in
base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to s
tart.
Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the originals
from Russia hold up well? =C2-
Thank you!
john b
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two air ta
nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable t
hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.=C2- Win
g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the first t
o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric A
vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.=C2-Jimmy
=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-serv ([email]owner-yak-list-serv[/email])
er(at)matronics.com (er(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the turtle de
ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine
on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive b
acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc

Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this instal
lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin
=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com (BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com)
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)>

These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

Quote:
If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil
may not generate an adequate spark.

The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked. I
f

Quote:
the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you
press the start button. That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag

Quote:
cap and then to the spark plug.

After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and
check the points for mounding. If necessary you can burnish the points t
o

Quote:
remove any mounds with a point file.

Dennis
------------------------------
*From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and l
ow

Quote:
in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to
start.

Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the originals fro
m

Quote:
Russia hold up well?

Thank you!
john b

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks
which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable tha
t

Quote:
require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips
are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to pu
t

Quote:
a G3X in a TW.

Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a
Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.

Jimmy

*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:
owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dyno
n

Quote:
in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first
with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you d
o

Quote:
not like it.
Doc

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a
place to

Quote:
install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this installation in a
TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require
ments for

Quote:
the magnetometer?

Jimmy Burke
Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)

________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially if the battery voltage is low.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
Quote:
These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.

The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
(ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the
spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.

After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can
burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.

Dennis
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
  *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane
was difficult to start.

Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
originals from Russia hold up well?

Thank you!
john b

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put
a G3X in a TW.
Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
Jimmy
*From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
*Roger Kemp
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
That way you can move it if you do not like it.
Doc

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has
anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
magnetometer?
Jimmy Burke
Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>


________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)>
We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was aimed at the homebuilders
who want to use a 12 V system
George
Sent from my iPad

Quote:
On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
wrote:

Quote:


Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult. Especially
if the battery voltage is low.

Quote:
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:
>
> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
> (ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the
> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can
> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>
> Dennis
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane
> was difficult to start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
> originals from Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put
> a G3X in a TW.
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
> Jimmy
> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
> *Roger Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
> That way you can move it if you do not like it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
> located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has
> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
> magnetometer?
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:22 am    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

Some mistake here I think, I do not offer a plug wire kit.

Doug
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Interesting! We get our kits, of which we use many, from Doug, and we agreed a form of exclusivity for red wires, rather than the standard blue. But I'm sure this is not one of ours, since our separation plates are anodised black, and indeed we manufacture these in Hungary and then add them to the kits that we install!
 
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
 
Tel:  [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
 
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: 07 February 2016 16:04
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16

 
Auto plug conversion kit?
Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?

The separation plates for the mags are anodized red.  NGK plugs.  Red wires, with no markings.  No instructions are in the box.

Who made this kit?  Has anyone had good luck with this product?

Thank you!

John B
 
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     1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (A. Dennis Savarese)
     2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (Ernest Martinez)
     3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (George Coy)

________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________
Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil ma
y not generate an adequate spark.
The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical component
s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the starti
ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.=C2- If t
he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you pre
ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag cap and then to the spark plug.
After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and ch
eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the points
to remove any mounds with a point file.
Dennis
      From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
 To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
 Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
 Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the starting
 vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low in
 base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to s
tart.
Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the originals
from Russia hold up well? =C2-
Thank you!
john b
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two air ta
nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable t
hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.=C2- Win
g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
 routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the first t
o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric A
vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.=C2-Jimmy
=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-serv ([email]owner-yak-list-serv[/email])
er(at)matronics.com (er(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the turtle de
ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine
on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive b
acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc

Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this instal
lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin
=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com (BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com)
________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________
Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)>

These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

Quote:
If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil
may not generate an adequate spark.

The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
components on the airplane.   The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.  I
f

Quote:
the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you
press the start button.  That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag

Quote:
cap and then to the spark plug.

After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and
check the points for mounding.  If necessary you can burnish the points t
o

Quote:
remove any mounds with a point file.

Dennis
------------------------------
*From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting vibrator?  I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and l
ow

Quote:
in base voltage.  It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to
start.

Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?  Do the originals fro
m

Quote:
Russia hold up well?

Thank you!
john b

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response.  Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks
which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable tha
t

Quote:
require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.  Wing tips
are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing.  Looks like I may be the first to pu
t

Quote:
a G3X in a TW.

Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a
Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.

Jimmy

*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:
owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dyno
n

Quote:
in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first
with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you d
o

Quote:
not like it.
Doc

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a
 place to

Quote:
install the magnetometer (GMU22).  Has anyone done this installation in a
TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require
ments for

Quote:
the magnetometer?

Jimmy Burke
Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)

________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________
Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially if the battery voltage is low.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
Quote:
These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:

     If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
     starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.

     The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
     components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
     starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
     cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
     (ground) when you press the start button.  That would prevent the
     spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.

     After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
     container and check the points for mounding.  If necessary you can
     burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.

     Dennis
     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
     *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
     *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
     <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
     *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
     *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

     Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
     starting vibrator?  I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
     old, and low in base voltage.  It was cool today, and the airplane
     was difficult to start.

     Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?  Do the
     originals from Russia hold up well?

     Thank you!
     john b

     On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
     <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

         Thanks for the response.  Area behind the rear seat has the
         two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
         fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
         the rear landing gear assembly.  Wing tips are a possibility,
         but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
         wiring through the wing.  Looks like I may be the first to put
         a G3X in a TW.
         Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
         suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
         Jimmy
         *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
         <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
         [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
         <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
         *Roger Kemp
         *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
         *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
         *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation
         Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
         for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
         the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
         That way you can move it if you do not like it.
         Doc

         Sent from my iPad

         On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
         <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

             Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
             located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22).  Has
             anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
             on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
             magnetometer?
             Jimmy Burke
             Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>


________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________
Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)>
We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was aimed at the homebuilders
who want to use a 12 V system
George
Sent from my iPad

Quote:
On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
wrote:

Quote:


Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.  Especially
if the battery voltage is low.

Quote:
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:
>
>    If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
>    starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>
>    The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
>    components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
>    starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
>    cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
>    (ground) when you press the start button.  That would prevent the
>    spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>
>    After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
>    container and check the points for mounding.  If necessary you can
>    burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>
>    Dennis
>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
>    *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
>    <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
>    *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
>    *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
>    Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
>    starting vibrator?  I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
>    old, and low in base voltage.  It was cool today, and the airplane
>    was difficult to start.
>
>    Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?  Do the
>    originals from Russia hold up well?
>
>    Thank you!
>    john b
>
>    On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
>    <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
>        Thanks for the response.  Area behind the rear seat has the
>        two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
>        fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
>        the rear landing gear assembly.  Wing tips are a possibility,
>        but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
>        wiring through the wing.  Looks like I may be the first to put
>        a G3X in a TW.
>        Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
>        suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>        Jimmy
>        *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>        <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
>        [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>        <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
>        *Roger Kemp
>        *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
>        *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
>        *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>        Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
>        for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
>        the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
>        That way you can move it if you do not like it.
>        Doc
>
>        Sent from my iPad
>
>        On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
>        <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
>            Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
>            located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22).  Has
>            anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
>            on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
>            magnetometer?
>            Jimmy Burke
>            Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:26 am    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

The point of origin might be important, as I don't have any instructions for the installation of this kit of unknown origin...

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Interesting! We get our kits, of which we use many, from Doug, and we agreed a form of exclusivity for red wires, rather than the standard blue. But I'm sure this is not one of ours, since our separation plates are anodised black, and indeed we manufacture these in Hungary and then add them to the kits that we install!
 
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
 
Tel:  [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120]+44 (0) 1544 340120[/url]
Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
www.russianaeros.com
 
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: 07 February 2016 16:04
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16

 
Auto plug conversion kit?
Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?

The separation plates for the mags are anodized red.  NGK plugs.  Red wires, with no markings.  No instructions are in the box.

Who made this kit?  Has anyone had good luck with this product?

Thank you!

John B
 
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     1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (A. Dennis Savarese)
     2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (Ernest Martinez)
     3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (A. Dennis Savarese)
     4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation  (George Coy)

________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________
Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil ma
y not generate an adequate spark.
The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical component
s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the starti
ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.=C2- If t
he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you pre
ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag cap and then to the spark plug.
After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and ch
eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the points
to remove any mounds with a point file.
Dennis
      From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
 To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
 Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
 Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the starting
 vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low in
 base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to s
tart.
Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the originals
from Russia hold up well? =C2-
Thank you!
john b
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two air ta
nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable t
hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.=C2- Win
g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
 routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the first t
o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric A
vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.=C2-Jimmy
=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-serv ([email]owner-yak-list-serv[/email])
er(at)matronics.com (er(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the turtle de
ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine
on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive b
acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc

Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this instal
lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin
=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com (BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com)
________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________
Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)>

These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

Quote:
If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil
may not generate an adequate spark.

The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
components on the airplane.   The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.  I
f

Quote:
the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you
press the start button.  That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag

Quote:
cap and then to the spark plug.

After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and
check the points for mounding.  If necessary you can burnish the points t
o

Quote:
remove any mounds with a point file.

Dennis
------------------------------
*From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting vibrator?  I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and l
ow

Quote:
in base voltage.  It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to
start.

Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?  Do the originals fro
m

Quote:
Russia hold up well?

Thank you!
john b

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response.  Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks
which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable tha
t

Quote:
require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.  Wing tips
are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing.  Looks like I may be the first to pu
t

Quote:
a G3X in a TW.

Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a
Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.

Jimmy

*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:
owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dyno
n

Quote:
in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first
with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you d
o

Quote:
not like it.
Doc

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a
 place to

Quote:
install the magnetometer (GMU22).  Has anyone done this installation in a
TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require
ments for

Quote:
the magnetometer?

Jimmy Burke
Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)

________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________
Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Garmin G3X installation
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially if the battery voltage is low.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
Quote:
These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:

     If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
     starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.

     The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
     components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
     starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
     cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
     (ground) when you press the start button.  That would prevent the
     spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.

     After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
     container and check the points for mounding.  If necessary you can
     burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.

     Dennis
     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
     *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
     *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
     <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
     *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
     *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

     Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
     starting vibrator?  I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
     old, and low in base voltage.  It was cool today, and the airplane
     was difficult to start.

     Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?  Do the
     originals from Russia hold up well?

     Thank you!
     john b

     On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
     <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

         Thanks for the response.  Area behind the rear seat has the
         two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
         fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
         the rear landing gear assembly.  Wing tips are a possibility,
         but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
         wiring through the wing.  Looks like I may be the first to put
         a G3X in a TW.
         Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
         suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
         Jimmy
         *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
         <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
         [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
         <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
         *Roger Kemp
         *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
         *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
         *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
         Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
         for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
         the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
         That way you can move it if you do not like it.
         Doc

         Sent from my iPad

         On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
         <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

             Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
             located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22).  Has
             anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
             on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
             magnetometer?
             Jimmy Burke
             Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>


________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________
Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)>
We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was aimed at the homebuilders
who want to use a 12 V system
George
Sent from my iPad

Quote:
On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
wrote:

Quote:


Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.  Especially
if the battery voltage is low.

Quote:
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:
>
>    If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
>    starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>
>    The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
>    components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
>    starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
>    cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
>    (ground) when you press the start button.  That would prevent the
>    spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>
>    After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
>    container and check the points for mounding.  If necessary you can
>    burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>
>    Dennis
>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
>    *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
>    <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
>    *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
>    *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
>    Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
>    starting vibrator?  I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
>    old, and low in base voltage.  It was cool today, and the airplane
>    was difficult to start.
>
>    Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?  Do the
>    originals from Russia hold up well?
>
>    Thank you!
>    john b
>
>    On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
>    <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
>        Thanks for the response.  Area behind the rear seat has the
>        two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
>        fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
>        the rear landing gear assembly.  Wing tips are a possibility,
>        but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
>        wiring through the wing.  Looks like I may be the first to put
>        a G3X in a TW.
>        Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
>        suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>        Jimmy
>        *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>        <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
>        [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>        <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
>        *Roger Kemp
>        *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
>        *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
>        *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>        Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
>        for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
>        the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
>        That way you can move it if you do not like it.
>        Doc
>
>        Sent from my iPad
>
>        On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
>        <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
>            Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
>            located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22).  Has
>            anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
>            on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
>            magnetometer?
>            Jimmy Burke
>            Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:11 am    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

I don't sell the red wire conversion kit. My wires are blue in my kit.
I have sold over 650 kits world wide, in case your interested. You can
see it on my web site, www.yak-52.com
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/7/2016 11:03 AM, John B wrote:
Quote:
Auto plug conversion kit?
Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?
The separation plates for the mags are anodized red. NGK plugs. Red
wires, with no markings. No instructions are in the box.
Who made this kit? Has anyone had good luck with this product?
Thank you!
John B

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1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (Ernest Martinez)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (George Coy)

________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
starting coil ma
y not generate an adequate spark.
The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
component
s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starti
ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
cracked.=C2- If t
he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground)
when you pre
ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going
to the m
ag cap and then to the spark plug.
After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
container and ch
eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the
points
to remove any mounds with a point file.
Dennis
From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>
To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting
vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and
low in
base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was
difficult to s
tart.
Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the
originals
from Russia hold up well? =C2-
Thank you!
john b
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two
air ta
nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has
control cable t
hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear
assembly.=C2- Win
g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a
problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the
first t
o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at
Auric A
vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise
area.=C2-Jimmy
=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-yak-list-serv <mailto:owner-yak-list-serv>
er(at)matronics.com <mailto:er(at)matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the
turtle de
ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50.
Worked fine
on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial
adhesive b
acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc

Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this
instal
lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin
=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy
BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com>
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com <mailto:erniel29(at)gmail.com>>

These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
wrote:

> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
starting coil
> may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
cracked. I
f
> the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground)
when you
> press the start button. That would prevent the spark from going
to the m
ag
> cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
container and
> check the points for mounding. If necessary you can burnish the
points t
o
> remove any mounds with a point file.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
old, and l
ow
> in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane was
difficult to
> start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
originals fro
m
> Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two
air tanks
> which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control
cable tha
t
> require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.
Wing tips
> are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
> routing the wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the
first to pu
t
> a G3X in a TW.
>
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
suggests using a
> Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>
> Jimmy
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com> [mailto:
> owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Roger
Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
for my Dyno
n
> in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount
it first
> with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it
if you d
o
> not like it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a
place to
> install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this
installation in a
> TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require
ments for
> the magnetometer?
>
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
>
>

________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially if the battery voltage is low.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 <tel:334-546-8182> (mobile)
www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com>
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
> <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>> wrote:
>
> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable
electrical
> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm)
from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided
shield
> (ground) when you press the start button. That would
prevent the
> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary
you can
> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to
fire the
> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the
airplane
> was difficult to start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
> originals from Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance
plus
> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a
possibility,
> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the
> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first
to put
> a G3X in a TW.
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
> Jimmy
> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>] *On Behalf Of
> *Roger Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did
that
> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after
slaving
> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed
Velcro.
> That way you can move it if you do not like it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>>
wrote:
>
> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
> located a place to install the magnetometer
(GMU22). Has
> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a
suggestion
> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
> magnetometer?
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>
>
>
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com <mailto:george.coy(at)gmail.com>>
We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was
aimed at the homebuilders
who want to use a 12 V system
George
Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
wrote:
>
>
> Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more
difficult. Especially
if the battery voltage is low.
> Dennis
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-546-8182 <tel:334-546-8182> (mobile)
> www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com>
> Skype - Yakguy1
>
>> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
>> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>>
>> Ernie
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>> wrote:
>>
>> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
>> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>>
>> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable
electrical
>> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm)
from the
>> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
>> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided
shield
>> (ground) when you press the start button. That would
prevent the
>> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>>
>> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
>> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary
you can
>> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>>
>> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
>> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to
fire the
>> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
>> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the
airplane
>> was difficult to start.
>>
>> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
>> originals from Russia hold up well?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> john b
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
>> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
>> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance
plus
>> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a
possibility,
>> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the
>> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first
to put
>> a G3X in a TW.
>> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
>> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>> Jimmy
>> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
>> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
>> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>] *On Behalf Of
>> *Roger Kemp
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
>> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did
that
>> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after
slaving
>> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed
Velcro.
>> That way you can move it if you do not like it.
>> Doc
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>>
wrote:
>>
>> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
>> located a place to install the magnetometer
(GMU22). Has
>> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a
suggestion
>> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
>> magnetometer?
>> Jimmy Burke
>> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>
>
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:13 am    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

Rickard,
The red wires were offered using a different brand of wires and 8.5 mm
with gray plug boots. The boots are not made of silicone as mine are.
You still have exclusivity on the red wires.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/7/2016 11:59 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
Quote:

Interesting! We get our kits, of which we use many, from Doug, and we
agreed a form of exclusivity for red wires, rather than the standard
blue. But I'm sure this is not one of ours, since our separation
plates are anodised black, and indeed we manufacture these in Hungary
and then add them to the kits that we install!

Richard Goode Aerobatics

Rhodds Farm

Lyonshall

Hereford

HR5 3LW

Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120

Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129

www.russianaeros.com

*From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John B
*Sent:* 07 February 2016 16:04
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server
*Subject:* Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16

Auto plug conversion kit?

Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?

The separation plates for the mags are anodized red. NGK plugs. Red
wires, with no markings. No instructions are in the box.

Who made this kit? Has anyone had good luck with this product?

Thank you!

John B

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1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (Ernest Martinez)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (George Coy)

________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting
coil ma
y not generate an adequate spark.
The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
component
s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the starti
ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.=C2- If t
he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when
you pre
ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag cap and then to the spark plug.
After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container
and ch
eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the points
to remove any mounds with a point file.
Dennis
From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>
To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting
vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low in
base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to s
tart.
Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the originals
from Russia hold up well? =C2-
Thank you!
john b
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two air ta
nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control
cable t
hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.=C2- Win
g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem
plus
routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the first t
o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric A
vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.=C2-Jimmy
=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-yak-list-serv <mailto:owner-yak-list-serv>
er(at)matronics.com <mailto:er(at)matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the turtle de
ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine
on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial
adhesive b
acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc

Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this instal
lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin
=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy
BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com>
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com <mailto:erniel29(at)gmail.com>>

These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>> wrote:

> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil
> may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
cracked. I
f
> the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you
> press the start button. That would prevent the spark from going to
the m
ag
> cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and
> check the points for mounding. If necessary you can burnish the
points t
o
> remove any mounds with a point file.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old,
and l
ow
> in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to
> start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the originals fro
m
> Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two air
tanks
> which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control
cable tha
t
> require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips
> are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
> routing the wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first
to pu
t
> a G3X in a TW.
>
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests
using a
> Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>
> Jimmy
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com> [mailto:
> owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my
Dyno
n
> in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first
> with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if
you d
o
> not like it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a
place to
> install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this installation
in a
> TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require
ments for
> the magnetometer?
>
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
>
>

________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially if the battery voltage is low.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 <tel:334-546-8182> (mobile)
www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com>
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
> <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>> wrote:
>
> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
> (ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the
> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can
> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane
> was difficult to start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
> originals from Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put
> a G3X in a TW.
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
> Jimmy
> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>] *On Behalf Of
> *Roger Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
> That way you can move it if you do not like it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
> located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has
> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
> magnetometer?
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>
>
>
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com <mailto:george.coy(at)gmail.com>>
We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was aimed at
the homebuilders
who want to use a 12 V system
George
Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
wrote:
>
>
> Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially
if the battery voltage is low.
> Dennis
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-546-8182 <tel:334-546-8182> (mobile)
> www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com>
> Skype - Yakguy1
>
>> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
>> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>>
>> Ernie
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>> wrote:
>>
>> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
>> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>>
>> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
>> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
>> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
>> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
>> (ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the
>> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>>
>> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
>> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can
>> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>>
>> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
>> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
>> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
>> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane
>> was difficult to start.
>>
>> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
>> originals from Russia hold up well?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> john b
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
>> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
>> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
>> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
>> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
>> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put
>> a G3X in a TW.
>> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
>> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>> Jimmy
>> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
>> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
>> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>] *On Behalf Of
>> *Roger Kemp
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
>> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
>> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
>> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
>> That way you can move it if you do not like it.
>> Doc
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
>> located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has
>> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
>> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
>> magnetometer?
>> Jimmy Burke
>> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:14 am    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

I believe most of those kits with the 8.5mm red wires with gray boots
were sold and/or installed by Bill Blackwell in Arizona.

You can download the installation instructionsfor my kit from my web site.
Dennis

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On 2/7/2016 12:22 PM, John B wrote:
Quote:
The point of origin might be important, as I don't have any
instructions for the installation of this kit of unknown origin...

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Richard Goode
<richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com
<mailto:richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com>> wrote:

Interesting! We get our kits, of which we use many, from Doug, and
we agreed a form of exclusivity for red wires, rather than the
standard blue. But I'm sure this is not one of ours, since our
separation plates are anodised black, and indeed we manufacture
these in Hungary and then add them to the kits that we install!

Richard Goode Aerobatics

Rhodds Farm

Lyonshall

Hereford

HR5 3LW

Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 <tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340120>

Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 <tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129>

www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com>

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*Sent:* 07 February 2016 16:04
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server
*Subject:* Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16

Auto plug conversion kit?

Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?

The separation plates for the mags are anodized red. NGK plugs.
Red wires, with no markings. No instructions are in the box.

Who made this kit? Has anyone had good luck with this product?

Thank you!

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1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (Ernest Martinez)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (George Coy)

________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
starting coil ma
y not generate an adequate spark.
The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
component
s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starti
ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
cracked.=C2- If t
he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground)
when you pre
ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going
to the m
ag cap and then to the spark plug.
After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
container and ch
eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the
points
to remove any mounds with a point file.
Dennis
From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>
To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting
vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and
low in
base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was
difficult to s
tart.
Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the
originals
from Russia hold up well? =C2-
Thank you!
john b
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two
air ta
nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has
control cable t
hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear
assembly.=C2- Win
g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a
problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the
first t
o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at
Auric A
vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise
area.=C2-Jimmy
=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-yak-list-serv <mailto:owner-yak-list-serv>
er(at)matronics.com <mailto:er(at)matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the
turtle de
ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50.
Worked fine
on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial
adhesive b
acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc

Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this
instal
lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin
=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy
BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com>
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com <mailto:erniel29(at)gmail.com>>

These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
wrote:

> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
starting coil
> may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
cracked. I
f
> the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground)
when you
> press the start button. That would prevent the spark from going
to the m
ag
> cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
container and
> check the points for mounding. If necessary you can burnish the
points t
o
> remove any mounds with a point file.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
old, and l
ow
> in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane was
difficult to
> start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
originals fro
m
> Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two
air tanks
> which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control
cable tha
t
> require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.
Wing tips
> are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
> routing the wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the
first to pu
t
> a G3X in a TW.
>
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
suggests using a
> Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>
> Jimmy
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com> [mailto:
> owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Roger
Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
for my Dyno
n
> in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount
it first
> with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it
if you d
o
> not like it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a
place to
> install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this
installation in a
> TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require
ments for
> the magnetometer?
>
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
>
>

________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially if the battery voltage is low.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
334-546-8182 <tel:334-546-8182> (mobile)
www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com>
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
> <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>> wrote:
>
> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable
electrical
> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm)
from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided
shield
> (ground) when you press the start button. That would
prevent the
> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary
you can
> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to
fire the
> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the
airplane
> was difficult to start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
> originals from Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance
plus
> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the
> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first
to put
> a G3X in a TW.
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
> Jimmy
> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>] *On Behalf Of
> *Roger Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did
that
> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after
slaving
> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed
Velcro.
> That way you can move it if you do not like it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>>
wrote:
>
> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
> located a place to install the magnetometer
(GMU22). Has
> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a
suggestion
> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
> magnetometer?
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>
>
>
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com <mailto:george.coy(at)gmail.com>>
We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was
aimed at the homebuilders
who want to use a 12 V system
George
Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
wrote:
>
>
> Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more
difficult. Especially
if the battery voltage is low.
> Dennis
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-546-8182 <tel:334-546-8182> (mobile)
> www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com>
> Skype - Yakguy1
>
>> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
>> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>>
>> Ernie
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net
<mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>> wrote:
>>
>> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
>> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>>
>> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable
electrical
>> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm)
from the
>> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
>> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided
shield
>> (ground) when you press the start button. That would
prevent the
>> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>>
>> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
>> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary
you can
>> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com>>>
>> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
>> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to
fire the
>> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
>> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the
airplane
>> was difficult to start.
>>
>> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
>> originals from Russia hold up well?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> john b
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
>> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
>> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance
plus
>> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a
possibility,
>> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the
>> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first
to put
>> a G3X in a TW.
>> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
>> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
>> Jimmy
>> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
>> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>
>> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com>>] *On Behalf Of
>> *Roger Kemp
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
>> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did
that
>> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after
slaving
>> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed
Velcro.
>> That way you can move it if you do not like it.
>> Doc
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
>> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>>
wrote:
>>
>> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
>> located a place to install the magnetometer
(GMU22). Has
>> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a
suggestion
>> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
>> magnetometer?
>> Jimmy Burke
>> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>
<mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com>>
>
>
>
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:29 pm    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

A good place to get the Spark Plug wiring harness is from Kingston wire in the San Diego, CA area.  I think  the wiring set is about $80.  Then just get the mag plates and plugs

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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 8:04 AM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16

Auto plug conversion kit?
Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?

The separation plates for the mags are anodized red. NGK plugs. Red wires, with no markings. No instructions are in the box.

Who made this kit? Has anyone had good luck with this product?

Thank you!

John B

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1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (Ernest Martinez)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (George Coy)

________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil ma
y not generate an adequate spark.
The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical component
s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the starti
ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.=C2- If t
he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you pre
ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag cap and then to the spark plug.
After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and ch
eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the points
to remove any mounds with a point file.
Dennis
From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the starting
vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low in
base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to s
tart.
Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the originals
from Russia hold up well? =C2-
Thank you!
john b
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two air ta
nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable t
hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.=C2- Win
g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the first t
o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric A
vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.=C2-Jimmy
=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-serv ([email]owner-yak-list-serv[/email])
er(at)matronics.com (er(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the turtle de
ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine
on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive b
acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc

Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this instal
lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin
=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com (BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com)
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)>

These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

Quote:
If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil
may not generate an adequate spark.

The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked. I
f

Quote:
the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you
press the start button. That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag

Quote:
cap and then to the spark plug.

After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and
check the points for mounding. If necessary you can burnish the points t
o

Quote:
remove any mounds with a point file.

Dennis
------------------------------
*From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and l
ow

Quote:
in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to
start.

Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the originals fro
m

Quote:
Russia hold up well?

Thank you!
john b

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks
which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable tha
t

Quote:
require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips
are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to pu
t

Quote:
a G3X in a TW.

Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a
Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.

Jimmy

*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:
owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dyno
n

Quote:
in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first
with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you d
o

Quote:
not like it.
Doc

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a
place to

Quote:
install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this installation in a
TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require
ments for

Quote:
the magnetometer?

Jimmy Burke
Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)

________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially if the battery voltage is low.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
Quote:
These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.

The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
(ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the
spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.

After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can
burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.

Dennis
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
  *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane
was difficult to start.

Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
originals from Russia hold up well?

Thank you!
john b

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put
a G3X in a TW.
Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
Jimmy
*From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
*Roger Kemp
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
That way you can move it if you do not like it.
Doc

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has
anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
magnetometer?
Jimmy Burke
Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>


________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)>
We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was aimed at the homebuilders
who want to use a 12 V system
George
Sent from my iPad

Quote:
On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
wrote:

Quote:


Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult. Especially
if the battery voltage is low.

Quote:
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:
>
> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
> (ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the
> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can
> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>
> Dennis
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane
> was difficult to start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
> originals from Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put
> a G3X in a TW.
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
> Jimmy
> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
> *Roger Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
> That way you can move it if you do not like it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
> located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has
> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
> magnetometer?
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:53 pm    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

I've got the wire, I just don't have any instructions.

Sent from my iPhone

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Quote:
<![endif]--> <![endif]-->
A good place to get the Spark Plug wiring harness is from Kingston wire in the San Diego, CA area. I think  the wiring set is about $80. Then just get the mag plates and plugs
 
Victory Aero
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San Jose, CA 95148
408-836-5122
www.victoryhangar.com
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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of John B
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 8:04 AM
To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16
 
Auto plug conversion kit?
Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?

The separation plates for the mags are anodized red. NGK plugs. Red wires, with no markings. No instructions are in the box.

Who made this kit? Has anyone had good luck with this product?

Thank you!

John B

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1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (Ernest Martinez)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (George Coy)

________________________________  Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil ma
y not generate an adequate spark.
The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical component
s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the starti
ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.=C2- If t
he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you pre
ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag cap and then to the spark plug.
After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and ch
eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the points
to remove any mounds with a point file.
Dennis
From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
 To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the starting
vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low in
base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to s
tart.
Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the originals
from Russia hold up well? =C2-
Thank you!
john b
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two air ta
nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable t
hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.=C2- Win
g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the first t
o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric A
vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.=C2-Jimmy
=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-serv ([email]owner-yak-list-serv[/email])
er(at)matronics.com (er(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the turtle de
ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine
on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive b
acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc

Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this instal
lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin
=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com (BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com)
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)>

These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

Quote:
If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil
may not generate an adequate spark.

The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked. I
f

Quote:
the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you
press the start button. That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag

Quote:
cap and then to the spark plug.

After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and
check the points for mounding. If necessary you can burnish the points t
o

Quote:
remove any mounds with a point file.

Dennis
------------------------------
*From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and l
ow

Quote:
in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to
start.

Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the originals fro
m

Quote:
Russia hold up well?

Thank you!
john b

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks
which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable tha
t

Quote:
require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips
are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing.  Looks like I may be the first to pu
t

Quote:
a G3X in a TW.

Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a
Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.

Jimmy

*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:
owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dyno
n

Quote:
in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first
with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you d
o

Quote:
not like it.
Doc

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a
place to

Quote:
install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this installation in a
TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require
ments for

Quote:
the magnetometer?

Jimmy Burke
Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)

________________________________  Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially if the battery voltage is low.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
Quote:
These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:

  If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.

The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
  cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
(ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the
spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.

After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can
burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.

Dennis
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
 *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
old, and low in base voltage.  It was cool today, and the airplane
was difficult to start.

Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
originals from Russia hold up well?

Thank you!
john b

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

  Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
 fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
  wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put
a G3X in a TW.
  Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
Jimmy
*From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
  <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
  <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
  *Roger Kemp
  *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
  *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
 Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
  for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
  That way you can move it if you do not like it.
Doc

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
  located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has
anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
  on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
  magnetometer?
  Jimmy Burke
  Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>


________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)>
We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was aimed at the homebuilders
who want to use a 12 V system
George
Sent from my iPad

Quote:
On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
wrote:

Quote:


Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult. Especially
if the battery voltage is low.

Quote:
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:
>
> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
>   starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
> (ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the
> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can
> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>
>  Dennis
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
>  <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
>  old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane
> was difficult to start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
> originals from Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
>   <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
>   two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
>   but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put
> a G3X in a TW.
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
> Jimmy
> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
> *Roger Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
>  *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>   Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
> That way you can move it if you do not like it.
>   Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
> located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has
> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
>  magnetometer?
>   Jimmy Burke
>   Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:08 pm    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

John B,
That kit sounds like the ones Bill Blackwell in AZ was selling about 10 years ago, I bought two, and they worked just great!

Scott Dierolf

Quote:
On Feb 7, 2016, at 23:49, John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I've got the wire, I just don't have any instructions.Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 7, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Kregg Victory <kregg(at)balancemyprop.com (kregg(at)balancemyprop.com)> wrote:
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A good place to get the Spark Plug wiring harness is from Kingston wire in the San Diego, CA area. I think the wiring set is about $80. Then just get the mag plates and plugs

Victory Aero
2502 John Montgomery Dr.
San Jose, CA 95148
408-836-5122
www.victoryhangar.com
www.balancemyprop.com

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of John BSent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 8:04 AMTo: Yak-List Digest ServerSubject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16

Auto plug conversion kit?
Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?

The separation plates for the mags are anodized red. NGK plugs. Red wires, with no markings. No instructions are in the box.

Who made this kit? Has anyone had good luck with this product?

Thank you!

John B

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 1:03 AM, Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)> wrote:
* ========================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive =========================Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of thetwo Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formattedin HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexesand Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII versionof the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editorsuch as Notepad or with a web browser.HTML Version: dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installationIf the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical components on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.=C2- If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you press the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and check the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the pointsto remove any mounds with a point file.Dennis From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)> To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installationDoes anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the starting vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low in base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to start.Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the originalsfrom Russia hold up well? =C2-Thank you!john bOn Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.=C2- Wing tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the first to put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.=C2-Jimmy=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-serv ([email]owner-yak-list-serv[/email])er(at)matronics.com (er(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Roger KempSent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PMSubject: Re: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fineon headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-DocSent from my iPadOn Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com (BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com)________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________Time: 04:52:22 AM PST USSubject: Re: Garmin G3X installationFrom: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)>These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.ErnieOn Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil> may not generate an adequate spark.>> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked. If> the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you> press the start button. That would prevent the spark from going to the mag> cap and then to the spark plug.>> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and> check the points for mounding. If necessary you can burnish the points to> remove any mounds with a point file.>> Dennis>>> ------------------------------> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation>> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low> in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to> start.>> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the originals from> Russia hold up well?>> Thank you!> john b>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:>> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks> which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable that> require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips> are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus> routing the wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put> a G3X in a TW.>> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a> Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.>> Jimmy>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:> owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation>> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon> in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first> with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you do> not like it.> Doc>> Sent from my iPad>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:>> I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a place to> install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this installation in a> TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s requirements for> the magnetometer?>> Jimmy Burke> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>>________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________Time: 05:12:58 AM PST USSubject: Re: Garmin G3X installationFrom: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.Especially if the battery voltage is low.DennisA. Dennis Savaresedsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:>> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.>> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield> (ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.>> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.>> Dennis>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation>> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane> was difficult to start.>> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the> originals from Russia hold up well?>> Thank you!> john b>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:>> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put> a G3X in a TW.> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.> Jimmy> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of> *Roger Kemp> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.> That way you can move it if you do not like it.> Doc>> Sent from my iPad>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:>> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to> located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the> magnetometer?> Jimmy Burke> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>>>________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________Time: 05:30:27 AM PST USSubject: Re: Garmin G3X installationFrom: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)>We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was aimed at the homebuilderswho want to use a 12 V systemGeorgeSent from my iPad> On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>wrote:>>> Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult. Especiallyif the battery voltage is low.> Dennis>> A. Dennis Savarese> dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:>>>> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the>> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.>>>> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical>> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the>> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and>> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield>> (ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the>> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.>>>> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil>> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can>> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.>>>> Dennis>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------>> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>>> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM>> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation>>>> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the>> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are>> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane>> was difficult to start.>>>> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the>> originals from Russia hold up well?>>>> Thank you!>> john b>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:>>>> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the>> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft>> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus>> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,>> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the>> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put>> a G3X in a TW.>> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics>> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.>> Jimmy>> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>> <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of>> *Roger Kemp>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM>> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation>> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that>> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving>> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.>> That way you can move it if you do not like it.>> Doc>>>> Sent from my iPad>>>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:>>>> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to>> located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has>> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion>> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the>> magnetometer?>> Jimmy Burke>> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>>>>>>===========br> fts!)r> > w.buildersbooks.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.comrel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -Matt Dralle, List Admin.===========List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List===========FORUMS -eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com===========b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin.rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution===========






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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:26 pm    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

Doug – my apologies; of course our kits come from Dennis!

Richard Goode Aerobatics
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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: 07 February 2016 17:19
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Subject: Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16


Some mistake here I think, I do not offer a plug wire kit.


Doug

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
Interesting! We get our kits, of which we use many, from Doug, and we agreed a form of exclusivity for red wires, rather than the standard blue. But I'm sure this is not one of ours, since our separation plates are anodised black, and indeed we manufacture these in Hungary and then add them to the kits that we install!

Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
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HR5 3LW

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Fax: [url=tel:%2B44%20%280%29%201544%20340129]+44 (0) 1544 340129[/url]
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To: Yak-List Digest Server
Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16


Auto plug conversion kit?
Does anyone know he origin of the red auto plug conversion kit?

The separation plates for the mags are anodized red. NGK plugs. Red wires, with no markings. No instructions are in the box.

Who made this kit? Has anyone had good luck with this product?

Thank you!

John B

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1. 04:33 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 04:52 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (Ernest Martinez)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: Garmin G3X installation (George Coy)

________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:33:17 AM PST US
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil ma
y not generate an adequate spark.
The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical component
s on the airplane.=C2-=C2- The starting coil wire (7mm) from the starti
ng coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked.=C2- If t
he wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you pre
ss the start button.=C2- That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag cap and then to the spark plug.
After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and ch
eck the points for mounding.=C2- If necessary you can burnish the points
to remove any mounds with a point file.
Dennis
From: John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
To: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the starting
vibrator?=C2- I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and low in
base voltage.=C2- It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to s
tart.
Is there a replacement starting vibrator available?=C2- Do the originals
from Russia hold up well? =C2-
Thank you!
john b
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response.=C2- Area behind the rear seat has the two air ta
nks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable t
hat require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly.=C2- Win
g tips are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing.=C2- Looks like I may be the first t
o put a G3X in a TW.=C2-Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric A
vionics suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.=C2-Jimmy
=C2-From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-serv ([email]owner-yak-list-serv[/email])
er(at)matronics.com (er(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation=C2-Try under the turtle de
ck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine
on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive b
acked Velcro. That way you can move it if you do not like it.=C2-Doc

Sent from my iPad
On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a p
lace to install the magnetometer (GMU22).=C2- Has anyone done this instal
lation in a TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin
=99s requirements for the magnetometer?=C2-Jimmy BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com (BurkeJbyak52(at)gmail.com)
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 04:52:22 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)>

These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

Quote:
If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the starting coil
may not generate an adequate spark.

The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and cracked. I
f

Quote:
the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield (ground) when you
press the start button. That would prevent the spark from going to the m
ag

Quote:
cap and then to the spark plug.

After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil container and
check the points for mounding. If necessary you can burnish the points t
o

Quote:
remove any mounds with a point file.

Dennis
------------------------------
*From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are old, and l
ow

Quote:
in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane was difficult to
start.

Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the originals fro
m

Quote:
Russia hold up well?

Thank you!
john b

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the two air tanks
which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft fuselage has control cable tha
t

Quote:
require 3 feet clearance plus the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips
are a possibility, but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus
routing the wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to pu
t

Quote:
a G3X in a TW.

Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics suggests using a
Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.

Jimmy

*From:* owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:
owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] *On Behalf Of *Roger Kemp
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that for my Dyno
n

Quote:
in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving the DG. Mount it first
with industrial adhesive backed Velcro. That way you can move it if you d
o

Quote:
not like it.
Doc

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

I=99m installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to located a
place to

Quote:
install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has anyone done this installation in a
TW or have a suggestion on a location that meets Garmin=99s require
ments for

Quote:
the magnetometer?

Jimmy Burke
Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)

________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 05:12:58 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult.
Especially if the battery voltage is low.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
Quote:
These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.

Ernie

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:

If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.

The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
(ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the
spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.

After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can
burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.

Dennis
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
*To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
<mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation

Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane
was difficult to start.

Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
originals from Russia hold up well?

Thank you!
john b

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put
a G3X in a TW.
Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
Jimmy
*From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
  [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
<mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
*Roger Kemp
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
*To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
*Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
That way you can move it if you do not like it.
Doc

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
<mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:

Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has
anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
magnetometer?
Jimmy Burke
Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>


________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 05:30:27 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Garmin G3X installation
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com (george.coy(at)gmail.com)>
We make a solid-state version that we run any voltage. It was aimed at the homebuilders
who want to use a 12 V system
George
Sent from my iPad

Quote:
On Feb 6, 2016, at 8:09 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>
wrote:

Quote:


Absolutely agree and the cold weather just makes it more difficult. Especially
if the battery voltage is low.

Quote:
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
[url=tel:334-546-8182]334-546-8182[/url] (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1

> On 2/6/2016 7:48 AM, Ernest Martinez wrote:
> These engines are not easy to start in cold weather.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:26 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net) <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>> wrote:
>
> If the battery voltage drops down to 22 volts or less, the
> starting coil may not generate an adequate spark.
>
> The starting coil is probably one of the most reliable electrical
> components on the airplane. The starting coil wire (7mm) from the
> starting coil to the left magneto cap may be deteriorated and
> cracked. If the wire is cracked, it will arc to the braided shield
> (ground) when you press the start button. That would prevent the
> spark from going to the mag cap and then to the spark plug.
>
> After you replace the batteries, open up the starting coil
> container and check the points for mounding. If necessary you can
> burnish the points to remove any mounds with a point file.
>
> Dennis
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* John B <jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com) <mailto:jbsoar(at)gmail.com (jbsoar(at)gmail.com)>>
> *To:* Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
> <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
>
> Does anyone have any idea how much voltage is required to fire the
> starting vibrator? I believe the batteries in the Yak 55M are
> old, and low in base voltage. It was cool today, and the airplane
> was difficult to start.
>
> Is there a replacement starting vibrator available? Do the
> originals from Russia hold up well?
>
> Thank you!
> john b
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response. Area behind the rear seat has the
> two air tanks which require 8.2 feet separation, the aft
> fuselage has control cable that require 3 feet clearance plus
> the rear landing gear assembly. Wing tips are a possibility,
> but the nav lights and strobes are a problem plus routing the
> wiring through the wing. Looks like I may be the first to put
> a G3X in a TW.
> Off line response from Sonny Schilleci at Auric Avionics
> suggests using a Survey Tool to locate a low noise area.
> Jimmy
> *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>  <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)
>  <mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)>] *On Behalf Of
> *Roger Kemp
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 9:32 PM
> *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
> *Subject:* Re: Garmin G3X installation
> Try under the turtle deck aft of the rear cockpit. I did that
> for my Dynon in the 50. Worked fine on headings after slaving
> the DG. Mount it first with industrial adhesive backed Velcro.
> That way you can move it if you do not like it.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Jim Burke <jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)
> <mailto:jbyak52(at)gmail.com (jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>> wrote:
>
> Im installing a Garmin G3X in my Yak52TW and trying to
> located a place to install the magnetometer (GMU22). Has
> anyone done this installation in a TW or have a suggestion
> on a location that meets Garmins requirements for the
> magnetometer?
> Jimmy Burke
> Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com) <mailto:Jbyak52(at)gmail.com (Jbyak52(at)gmail.com)>




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:44 pm    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/06/16 Reply with quote

Fair enough. Would Doug be willing to share the installation instructions
with me? Red separation plates for the mags. Red wires, which are
unmarked, and NGK plugs. This new kit may have been on the shelf for years


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