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Dennis Kirby

Joined: 05 Dec 2013
Posts: 35
Location: Albuquerque, NM

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:44 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

Bill Berle asked: << Can anyone here tell me which is the best or best compromise choice for wheels brakes and tires, for my particular intended

use? I will be building up this Firestar specifically as an off-airport, back

country, extreme STOL aircraft to explore small landing areas. ... Which combinations of wheels/brakes/tires have been successful on the Kolb aircraft

for this type of mission? >>



Bill -



My experience has shown that, for tires, avoid the "wavy tread" ultralight 800x6 tires that are so popular in so many of today's Light Sport airplanes (Kolbs included).  Those tires look cool, and "off-roady" but they are usually dismally out of balance.  



I put a pair of those on my Mark-3 several years ago, but took them off after a few weeks.  On takeoff roll, my instrument panel would shake so badly that I could not even read the instruments.  Tried to balance them at various motorcycle or ATV shops, but none could do it.



For larger tires suitable for off-airport and back country landing places, get general aviation tires (Desser, Air Hawk, etc.) of size 800x6 or 850x6.  They're a bit more expensive, but worth it.  Get 4-ply if you can, instead of 6-ply.  They'll be softer and add extra cushion on landings.  As light as our Kolbs are, you'll be able to operate those tires with as low as 10 or 8 psi.  You'll probably never wear them out.



Dennis Kirby

Mark-3 / 912ul

Sandia Park, NM

byoungplumbing(at)gmail.c
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:01 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

To avoid the out of balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft tires. 

When I took off I thought the plane was going to shake apart...Â Â Â  Balanced the tires with the self sticking weights inside the rim.Â  It is now so smooth, no shake at all.Â Â Â  One tire took 6 little squares,, the other took 6 on both the inside and outside halves...Â  So much for pre balanced aircraft tires... 

My neighbor said they would determine how much weight was needed, cut a piece of old inner tube and vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the light side,Â  then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job. 

Boyd Y

victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:23 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

I am hoping to fly with larger tires than 6.00 x 6. My hope is to use some sort of modest price ATV or off-road vehicle tire in the neighborhood of what would be 8.00 x 6 to 8.50 x 6 in the airplane world. My entire purpose for this aircraft is to go out and play in the dirt, grass hilltops, riverbeds, etc. So diameter and "flotation" are somewhat significant to me. I do not need to go up to the horriblyexpensive 29 inch aircraft "bush" and "tundra" tires. That money is going into the gas  tank 



Bill Berle

www.ezflaphandle.comÂ  - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft

www.grantstar.net Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities



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On Fri, 3/11/16, B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> wrote:



 Subject: Re: Tires for your Firestar

 To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Friday, March 11, 2016, 3:01 PM

 

 To avoid the out of

 balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft

 tires.

 When I took off I thought the plane was going

 to shake apart....Â Â Â  Balanced the tires with the self

 sticking weights inside the rim.Â  It is now so smooth, no

 shake at all.Â Â Â  One tire took 6 little squares,, the

 other took 6 on both the inside and outside halves...Â  So

 much for pre balanced aircraft tires...

 My neighbor said they would determine how much

 weight was needed, cut a piece of old inner tube and

 vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the light side,Â 

 then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job.

 Boyd Y

rowedenny

Joined: 09 Mar 2008
Posts: 338
Location: Western PA

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:38 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

My Carlisle turf glides "the ones that everyone has and are out of balance " only shake after lift off and I spike my brakes and all is smooth.ðŸ˜›

Lister Joe Lawson sales done huge diameter tires and wheels with black max hydraulic brakes that are quite reasonable.

Dennis "Skid" Rowe



On Mar 11, 2016, at 6:01 PM, B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com (byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

To avoid the out of balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft tires. 

When I took off I thought the plane was going to shake apart...    Balanced the tires with the self sticking weights inside the rim.  It is now so smooth, no shake at all.    One tire took 6 little squares,, the other took 6 on both the inside and outside halves...  So much for pre balanced aircraft tires... 

My neighbor said they would determine how much weight was needed, cut a piece of old inner tube and vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the light side,  then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job. 

Boyd Y

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:46 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

My experience with different tires on Kolbs resulted in buying Airtracs from Desser Tire Company, 800x6, 4 ply.  They have been on my MKIII a long time and many, many landings.



I tried the "golf cart" type tires in 800x6 with poor results. They tried to shake the main gear off the MKIII on takeoff.



The primary difference between slow speed off road type tires and aircraft tires is:



-Aircraft tires are "trued" and "balanced" after they are manufactured.  You can't make an out of round tire round with weights.



-Mine are rated at 110 or 120 mph.  No problem there.  I would have a hard time hitting 120 in a 90 degree dive.



Good tires and tubes are worth the money.  I could not takeoff with a flat tire.  Some of the places we fly, especially out West, I couldn't walk out for help.  I have to have tires and tubes that are reliable.



If I am going to be flying off pavement, primarily, I use 10-15 psi.  A combination of dirt and pavement, 6-10 psi works for me.  I have 6 psi in them now.



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama



 



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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:53 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

http://desser.wspdev.com/Aircraft-Tires-and-Tubes/21800-6-4-PLY.asp

Take a look at these. It is the best price that I can find for a larger tire. Those secured from turning with the screws as I did earlier would be a good combination. I would advise you to have the 4130 gear legs, preferably the longer 36 inch version. The spring that is built into these legs will reduce the shock to your frame from rough country, and with the tires secured to the rim you can let a lot of the air out to further cushion the plane.

We will be installing a pair of these tires to Boyd's plane soon. He can give you a report then.

Larry

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net (victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net)> wrote:

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		  --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net (victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net)>

 

 I am hoping to fly with larger tires than 6.00 x 6. My hope is to use some sort of modest price ATV or off-road vehicle tire in the neighborhood of what would be 8.00 x 6 to 8.50 x 6 in the airplane world. My entire purpose for this aircraft is to go out and play in the dirt, grass hilltops, riverbeds, etc. So diameter and "flotation" are somewhat significant to me. I do not need to go up to the horriblyexpensive 29 inch aircraft "bush" and "tundra" tires. That money is going into the gasÂ  tank 

 

 Bill Berle

 www.ezflaphandle.comÂ  - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft

 www.grantstar.net Â  Â  Â  Â  Â  - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities

 

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 On Fri, 3/11/16, B Young <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com (byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 

 Â Subject: Re: Tires for your Firestar

 Â To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)

 Â Date: Friday, March 11, 2016, 3:01 PM

 

 Â To avoid the out of

 Â balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft

 Â tires.

 Â When I took off I thought the plane was going

 Â to shake apart....Â Â Â  Balanced the tires with the self

 Â sticking weights inside the rim.Â  It is now so smooth, no

 Â shake at all.Â Â Â  One tire took 6 little squares,, the

 Â other took 6 on both the inside and outside halves...Â  So

 Â much for pre balanced aircraft tires...

 Â My neighbor said they would determine how much

 Â weight was needed, cut a piece of old inner tube and

 Â vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the light side,Â 

 Â then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job.

 Â Boyd Y

 

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:28 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

Did you all see these tubes?Â  Look like a good idea.

 

http://www.desser.com/Aircraft-Tires-and-Tubes/TU-700800-6-AM.asp

 

4" taller on those Airtracs would improve off field work.Â  Also set the nose of the Kolb a couple inches higher.

 

Putting a tail dragger in a good, nose high stance improves performance in several areas:

 

-Can get off the ground quicker.

 

-Can land shorter.

 

-The more the bottom of the wing is turned up the quicker you can stop.

 

-Can perform nice full stall landings without bumping the tail wheel.

 

john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:53 PM

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Subject: Re: Tires for your Firestar



 

http://desser.wspdev.com/Aircraft-Tires-and-Tubes/21800-6-4-PLY.asp

 



Take a look at these. It is the best price that I can find for a larger tire. Those secured from turning with the screws as I did earlier would be a good combination. I would advise you to have the 4130 gear legs, preferably the longer 36 inch version. The spring that is built into these legs will reduce the shock to your frame from rough country, and with the tires secured to the rim you can let a lot of the air out to further cushion the plane.



 



We will be installing a pair of these tires to Boyd's plane soon. He can give you a report then.



 



Larry

 

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net (victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net)> wrote:

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I am hoping to fly with larger tires than 6.00 x 6. My hope is to use some sort of modest price ATV or off-road vehicle tire in the neighborhood of what would be 8.00 x 6 to 8.50 x 6 in the airplane world. My entire purpose for this aircraft is to go out and play in the dirt, grass hilltops, riverbeds, etc. So diameter and "flotation" are somewhat significant to me. I do not need to go up to the horriblyexpensive 29 inch aircraft "bush" and "tundra" tires. That money is going into the gas  tank 



Bill Berle

www.ezflaphandle.com  - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft

www.grantstar.net           - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities



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 Subject: Re: Tires for your Firestar

 To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)

 Date: Friday, March 11, 2016, 3:01 PM



 To avoid the out of

 balance I put on a set of airtrack 600 x 6. Aircraft

 tires.

 When I took off I thought the plane was going

 to shake apart....    Balanced the tires with the self

 sticking weights inside the rim.  It is now so smooth, no

 shake at all.    One tire took 6 little squares,, the

 other took 6 on both the inside and outside halves...  So

 much for pre balanced aircraft tires...

 My neighbor said they would determine how much

 weight was needed, cut a piece of old inner tube and

 vulcanize it to the inside of the tire on the light side, 

 then use 1 or 2 weights to finish the job.

 Boyd Y

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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:58 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

Just a heads-up; if you think a/c tires are trued & balanced, read this 

installation guide carefully. 



http://www.desser.com/content/tire_mounting_info.asp



Charlie

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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:36 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

Yes, aircraft tires are trued and balanced when manufactured.  Of course the tire, tube, and wheel assembly must be fine tuned when mounted, just like an auto tire that is also trued and balanced when they are manufactured.



Off road, golf cart type tires are not trued and balanced when manufactured.  It is obvious when you mount an egg shaped out balance tire on your airplane.



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama



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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:46 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

OK, lets go with your assertion. Why are there explicit instructions on 

aligning a stripe on the tube with a red dot on the tire, or aligning a 

red dot on the tire with the valve stem if there's no stripe on the tube?



On 3/11/2016 9:36 PM, John Hauck wrote:

[quote] 



 Yes, aircraft tires are trued and balanced when manufactured.  Of course the tire, tube, and wheel assembly must be fine tuned when mounted, just like an auto tire that is also trued and balanced when they are manufactured.



 Off road, golf cart type tires are not trued and balanced when manufactured.  It is obvious when you mount an egg shaped out balance tire on your airplane.



 john h

 mkIII

 Titus, Alabama



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Thumper

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Posts: 46
Location: Oakland TN.

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Tires for your Firestar

Search Nanco for some tires that are soft but for off-roading.  I think someone assembles and sells sets using these tires. The smooth ones with no rib from the quads used on sand are the most popular,  not sure they aren't 8" rims though.  6" I think can be had?  Cheaper and you don't need those real wide ones on an airplane.  Narrow profile is preferred.

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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:58 am Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

To the best of my knowledge, there is a reference mark on all auto/truck and aircraft tires to align the valve stem, whether tube or tubeless.  The valve stem, tube or tubeless, is aligned with the mark on the tire bead.  I imagine the tire is manufactured to compensate for the valve stem and the valve stem hole in the wheel.  What do you think?



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama



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Carolina Flyer

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Location: Buffalo, South Carolina

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Tires for your Firestar

This is just my opinion but these are the best tires and wheel combination for a Firestar.  HUGE 21" X 12" X 8"  2-PLY TIRES,  8" Diameter one piece Aluminum Wheels. Wheels 7"and 9" wide are in stock now . Custom sizes can be made. This is your one-stop source for Tundra/Bush Wheels, Tires, and Brake Systems.  I have been supplying wheels and tires and brake systems to ultralights owners all the way up LSA owners. All the way up to 1500 lbs. 5/8" to beefy 3/4" axles. Either hand controls or heel & toe dual master cylinder configurations. I have single piston calipers and also dual piston calipers available. Whether you need Single items or complete systems we can make what you need.



Link to Bush tires and wheels video on YouTube



http://youtu.be/ysZBXy-pDzI

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Carolina Flyer

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Location: Buffalo, South Carolina

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: Tires for your Firestar

As for the profile the one on the right is a 7 inch rim the one on the left is a 9 inch wheel, both have the same amount of air pressure.  I have been selling these for the past nine years. I have never had a customer tell me that they did not like them after they received.   For a customers convenience I mount the tires on the wheels so they will not have any problem with installation.

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with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch

Challenger II
503 Tall Drive

Location : Buffalo South Carolina

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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:28 pm Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

Thank you for the photos and video Carolina Flyer. I have several questions:



1) The tires that are in that video and the photos... are they larger diameter or smaller diameter than 8.50 x 6?



2) How does someone change the tire and/or inner tube without being able to disassemble the wheel?  Do I have to go to a tire store to use their huge machine to remove or install the tire?



3) Is your company the same as Black Max or are you a separate company?



4) What is the price of this combination of those tires and wheels to buy from you?



5) Do these tires need screws or pins to keep them from spinning on the wheel and cutting the valve stem?



Bill Berle



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On Sat, 3/12/16, Carolina Flyer <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> wrote:



 This is just my opinion but these are the best tires and

 wheel combination for a Firestar.Â  HUGE 21" X 12" X

 8"Â  2-PLY TIRES,Â  8" Diameter one piece Aluminum

 Wheels. Wheels 7"and 9" wide are in stock now . Custom sizes

 can be made. This is your one-stop source for Tundra/Bush

 Wheels, Tires, and Brake Systems.Â  I have been

 supplying wheels and tires and brake systems to ultralights

 owners all the way up LSA owners. All the way up to 1500

 lbs. 5/8" to beefy 3/4" axles. Either hand controls or heel

 & toe dual master cylinder configurations. I have single

 piston calipers and also dual piston calipers available.

 Whether you need Single items or complete systems we can

 make what you need.

 

 --------

 Kolb Firestar II

 503 C-Box / RK400 

 Soon to have a 

 Rotax 670 DCDI 

 with a C-Box and 

 RK 400 Clutch

 

 Challenger II

 503 Tall Drive

 

 Location :Â  Buffalo South Carolina

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: Tires for your Firestar

Bill these tires are 21" in diameter. No inter-tubes required, I install the tires on the wheels, so you do not need to worry about that, no screws required.  Do not own black max but I am a authorized dealer for them and have been for many years. I purchased my brakes from black max, but the wheels I have a company that  custom makes them just for me.   The wheels are made to my specification. And the tires I buy wholesale from the company that imports them into this country. So I don't have to go out and buy them retail and mark them up you can find them on eBay but you won't beat my price... Anyone is interested I can be reached at 864-427-0101

2 wheels and 2 tundra tires with the tires mounted on the wheels is $275.00 and $35.00 shipping.

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RK 400 Clutch

Challenger II
503 Tall Drive

Location : Buffalo South Carolina

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:42 am Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

Hi Joe, thank you for the reply.



So if I'm out somewhere, happily flying along with the tires and wheels I bought from you, and I shred or puncture a tire because I landed on some kind of shrapnel ... do I need to call you to come out from Carolina to California to remove and re-install the tire for me? How much does that cost  ?



I don't care what they sell for on eBay or Craigslist, I wanted to know what price you charge. 



Bill Berle



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 Subject: Re: Tires for your Firestar

 To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 12:08 AM

 

 

 "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com>

 

 Bill these tires are 21" in diameter. No inter-tubes

 required, I install the tires on the wheels, so you do not

 need to worry about that, no screws required.Â  Do not

 own black max but I am a authorized dealer for them and have

 been for many years. I purchased my brakes from black max,

 but the wheels I have a company thatÂ  custom makes them

 just for me.Â Â Â The wheels are made to my

 specification. And the tires I buy wholesale from the

 company that imports them into this country. So I don't have

 to go out and buy them retail and mark them up you can find

 them on eBay but you won't beat my price... Anyone is

 interested I can be reached at 864-427-0101

 

 --------

 Kolb Firestar II

 503 C-Box / RK400 

 Soon to have a 

 Rotax 670 DCDI 

 with a C-Box and 

 RK 400 Clutch

 

 Challenger II

 503 Tall Drive

 

 Location :Â  Buffalo South Carolina

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Tires for your Firestar

Bill ....Will you do me a favor I put the price on there I don't know why you're not able to see it.  And I don't plan to come to California for any reason .

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lcottrell

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:51 am Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

Carolina Flyer wrote-"Bill ....Will you do me a favor I put the price on there I don't know why you're not able to see it.Â Â "



I was curious to see if you would give us the price this time, and actually it was not on either the individual email, or the digest version either. However when I went on the Matronics site, it was there. I cannot explain why, but in two of three ways that messages can be viewed it wasn't. there.Â 

One of the reasons that I am receiving individual email and the Digest versions is that sometimes I didn't get all the emails written. For instance the email by Berle was not on either the digest or the individual. The first I saw of the question was when it was replied to.

Larry

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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:54 am Post subject: Tires for your Firestar

Carolina Flyer wrote-"Bill ....Will you do me a favor I put the price on there I don't know why you're not able to see it.Â Â "



I was curious to see if you would give us the price this time, and actually it was not on either the individual email, or the digest version either. However when I went on the Matronics site, it was there. I cannot explain why, but in two of three ways that messages can be viewed it wasn't. there.Â 

One of the reasons that I am receiving individual email and the Digest versions is that sometimes I didn't get all the emails written. For instance the email by Berle was not on either the digest or the individual. The first I saw of the question was when it was replied to.

Larry



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