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RichWill



Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) Reply with quote

List,

Just installed the new KingFox (21x12x8) tires on the KF.. They look GREAT! Roll off my grass field is great.. on landing however, I did my typical 3pt landing...and bounced at least 3 times.. (so now I am current).

Wondering if this is normal (got to learn to slick it in again) or does anyone recommend a specific tire pressure.. I may have them too hard 8-10lbs psi...

Rich


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) Reply with quote

I keep mine at 10.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) Reply with quote

Hello bouncing Ricky!

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From: RichWill [rwill1(at)adelphia.net]
Wondering if this is normal (got to learn to slick it in again)

I should be careful not to sound too arrogant since I have only 200 h on my Kitfox and I barely become acquainted with the aircraft but ...
My old tyres were 10 psi, my new tyres were 30 psi and now deflated to 20 psi. My humble opinion is that tyre pressure has nothing to do with bouncing. This being said, I bounce also ... sometimes. I think it's just in the way we land. Practice and practice and feeling the plane. When I was doing touch and go with my instructor, I became impatient, asking him: How the #%&* am I going to land this thing properly? And now I do it ... most of the time. But I can't tell you how.
My advice is: keep your pressure as it is recommended and fly more. I am sure that you will soon know you plane as the back of your hand. Some people wonder why I am, now and then, doing touch and go's. Do I still need training? Yes, training is something that can't be overdriven.

Cheers,
Michel


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) Reply with quote

Tail draggers were made to humble man first, hold aeroplane off the ground second....

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Reply-To:  kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
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Subject:  RE: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky)
Date:  Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:54:12 +0200 (CEST)
Hello bouncing Ricky!

Quote:
From: RichWill [rwill1(at)adelphia.net]
Wondering if this is normal (got to learn to slick it in again)

I should be careful not to sound too arrogant since I have only 200 h on my Kitfox and I barely become acquainted with the aircraft but ...
My old tyres were 10 psi, my new tyres were 30 psi and now deflated to 20 psi. My humble opinion is that tyre pressure has nothing to do with bouncing. This being said, I bounce also ... sometimes. I think it's just in the way we land. Practice and practice and feeling the plane. When I was doing touch and go with my instructor, I became impatient, asking him: How the #%&* am I going to land this thing properly? And now I do it ... most of the time. But I can't tell you how.
My advice is: keep your pressure as it is recommended and fly more. I am sure that you will soon know you plane as the back of your hand. Some people wonder why I am, now and then, doing touch and go's. Do I still need training? Yes, training is something that can't be overdriven.

Cheers,
Michel


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) Reply with quote

No Problem Michael....

I'll be arrogant enough for the both of us... A 3000 hr GA pilot plus... former flight instructor.... 7th owned aircraft...

In other words.. the PIC has no flying issues.. the tires are just plane bouncey... But like everthing else , this too will be overcome..

Thanks for the insight!!

Rich
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) Reply with quote

I have the same tires on my kf2 they done chirp or make cool landing sounds.  you just know the soft rubber is  rubbing off without a chirp$$$ thrill.   if you let too much air out you can see the side wall wrinkle when you roll on the taxi way.  mal

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) Reply with quote

Just how far do you expect to go on the tires and at what speed?  I say for tundra type tyres lower the air pressure until they get too draggy on the ground.  The rougher the ground the lower the pressure.
 
BTW this is purely conjecture on my behalf... I haven't flown my KF3-A on wheels/skis yet  just some low speed taxiing.....  Floats are my game.
 
 

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:27 am    Post subject: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) Reply with quote

I am running 8 IBS and have noticed my landings are a bit more of a challenge.  I think it is just something you have to get used to.  I was hopping rides last weekend for a couple of hours, and they got better over time.

Gary Walsh
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) Reply with quote

I believe I have the same tires, big and tundra that is. I had 8 for the longest time, then I went to 10 and found that I get up and go better and by so doing get off the ground faster. Most of my strips are asphalt, so I can't speek for the grass. Once in awhile I bounce, usually once and I put the throttle to it and land again. I will say that no matter what your experience is, every landing is different. You just need to know what to do for each one. That's where the experience thing comes in, the more you do, the more you can determine what needs be done and do it fast for each landing. Just when you think you got things down, you get humbled and you hope nobody was watching. Doesn't mean this is just for the tail wheel pilot either. The other day I watched a cherokee land 6 times for one, I didn't think he would ever stop bouncing.

Oh and the touch and go's, they are not for the pilot in training, they are just plain fun to do.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: KingFox Tires (Bouncing Ricky) Reply with quote

Thanks Mike,
I agree...and btw, nice pics on your frapper site... I need to do some of Maine..we have smaller hills...but way more trees!!!

Rich


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