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Dick Sipp

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Hope, MI

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

I would like to hear from anyone who has mounted a Ray Allan flap position 

sensor (POS 12) on the flap system to drive a Ray Allan LED indicator.  A 

picture or description of where and how you mounted it would be most 

appreciated.



Thanks



Dick Sipp

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ScooterF15

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 136

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: Flap position sensor

Photos attached of my POS 12 mount. I used 2 pieces of .032 angle, one  screwed to the tunnel wall and one pop-riveted to the flap actuator. I connected  them with a piece of threated model aircraft pushrod with a brass clevis on one  end and a Z bend on the other. 

  

 You can also see the flap switch I installed for my Advanced Flight Systems  AOA Sport systems.

  

 -Jim McGrew

 40134

  

 In a message dated 7/6/2006 9:42:21 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  rsipp(at)earthlink.net writes:

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I would like to hear from anyone who has    mounted a Ray Allan flap position 

sensor (POS 12) on the flap system to    drive a Ray Allan LED indicator.  A 

picture or description of where    and how you mounted it would be most    

appreciated.



Thanks



Dick Sipp

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VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

Jim those stick on things that hold the wires ...what are they called as I  cant seem to find them out here in OZ

  

 regards Chris

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Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

You can get the whole skinny right here....

  

 http://www.mcmaster.com/

  

 goto page 1371

  

 Rick S.

 40185

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acs(at)acspropeller.com.a
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

Chris I didn’t see the original post but if you’re referring to the stick on cable blocks that are used in conjunction with the cable ties to tidy up your electrical wiring,  

I found the only place to have them was the big auto barns, at least in Brisbane anyway.  

John 40315  

   

     

   

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris , Susie Darcy

 Sent: Saturday, 8 July 2006 7:20 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Flap position sensor  

  

     

Jim those stick on things that hold the wires ...what are they called as I cant seem to find them out here in OZ  

    

   

    

regards Chris  

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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

Be advised that you need to get versions that use industrial adhesive.  The kind that you get from a home store have a tendency to let go after a while.  Not something you want to have happen in an area of a lot of moving parts.  

   

Michael  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Dunne

 Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 5:39 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

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Chris I didn’t see the original post but if you’re referring to the stick on cable blocks that are used in conjunction with the cable ties to tidy up your electrical wiring,  

I found the only place to have them was the big auto barns, at least in Brisbane anyway.  

John 40315  

   

     

   

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris , Susie Darcy

 Sent: Saturday, 8 July 2006 7:20 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Flap position sensor  

  

     

Jim those stick on things that hold the wires ...what are they called as I cant seem to find them out here in OZ  

    

   

    

regards Chris  

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ScooterF15

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 136

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

I buy the cable tie mounting bases from Stein Air. http://www.steinair.com/cableties.htm

  

 Jim

  

 In a message dated 7/7/2006 3:23:45 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  VHMUM(at)bigpond.com writes:

 [quote]   Jim those stick on things that hold the wires ...what are they called as    I cant seem to find them out here in OZ

    

   regards Chris

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jeremy.p.harris(at)boeing
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

We mounted ours in the  tunnel near the flap torque tube.  We attached a bell crank/control horn  fabricated from some light AL angle and held onto the torque tube with a pipe  clamp so no additional holes were drilled  in the torque tube.  The  horn was then linked via 1/4 scale (large) RC aircraft push rod to the 1.2"  throw Ray allen potentiometer.  The ray allen potentiometer was mounted on  another peice of angle on the side wall of the inside of the tunnel.   You'll have to work the geometry out to get the correct throw on the control  horn mounted to the torque tube.  We got about 1/4-1/3" up the horn from  the surface of the tube to get the 1.2" of throw for full flap movement.   There's some pics on the website but they aren't very good.  Hope this  helps.

 Jeremy

  

 http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm   if you go about 3/4 down the page, click on the picture of the tunnel.  The  sensor and brackets are on the bottom of the pic (starboard side of  airplane).  

http://jharris.net/Aviation/Flap%20Position%20Sensors.JPG  

 

Jeremy P.  Harris

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The Boeing  Company

Washington,  DC

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   From: Chris , Susie Darcy  [mailto:VHMUM(at)bigpond.com] 

Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 5:20  PM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Flap  position sensor

 

 Jim those stick on things that hold the wires ...what are they called as I  cant seem to find them out here in OZ

  

 regards Chris

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Dick Sipp

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Hope, MI

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

Outstanding Jim, thanks very much.

  

 Dick Sipp

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ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

Chris - these are readily available from Dick  Smith outlets.  I soak them in toluene to remove the adhesive and proseal  them to the skins/ribs/bulkheads.  They ain't going anywhere.

  

 cheers,

 Ron 

 #187 wiring

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris , Susie    Darcy

Sent: Saturday, 8 July 2006 6:50 AM

To:    rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Flap position    sensor

   Jim those stick on things that hold the wires ...what are they called as    I cant seem to find them out here in OZ

    

   regards Chris

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VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

Thanks Ron will have a look .

  

 Do not  archive

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GenGrumpy(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: Flap position sensor

Here is how we've mounted the one in N184JM.

  

 The push rod comes from a remote controlled airplane store.

  

 Grumpy #40404

 60 days or less to first flight!

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