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art(at)zemon.name
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 Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:22 am Post subject: FAA issues rules for drones |
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Hi Bob,
Thank you for posting the real URL. Though I have not said anything in the past, I very much appreciate knowing where I will land before I click on a link.
BTW, most of the link that you posted can be eliminated. All you really need is this:Â http://insights.globalspec.com/article/2907/faa-finalizes-first-operational-rules-for-commercial-drones
The rest of the URL is tracking code so that GlobalSpec can track their marketing efforts. Generally speaking, you can eliminate everything from the "?" to the end. In this case, you can drop "?id=%2D887316466&uh=96f904&email=bob%2Enuckolls%40aeroelectric%2Ecom&md=160719&mh=3fd1db&Vol=Vol16Issue29&Pub=1&LinkId=1807403&keyword=link%5F1807403&et_rid=937208063&et_mid=83127407&frmtrk=newsletter&cid=nl"
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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:52 pm Post subject: FAA issues rules for drones |
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At 02:21 PM 7/19/2016, you wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Bob,
Thank you for posting the real URL. Though I have not said anything in the past, I very much appreciate knowing where I will land before I click on a link. |
Understand . . . but I've been using the tinyurl extension
on my browsers since the beginning. I check the ones
I embed into my emails to make sure they go where I
intend . . . I think the real risks come from the
scripts that pour down from some websites . . .
I've captured some of those scripts; the links
they can contain are many and cryptic. You need an
agile malware firewall more than anything else.
Knowing the name of the host website isn't of much
value but know too that I went there before you.
As always, each to his own policies and procedures.
If anything I post incites trepidation, one is
well advised to ignore the link . . .
Bob . . .
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Jim Baker
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:46 pm Post subject: FAA issues rules for drones |
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Should have just said Emacs.
😑
Jim Baker
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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:55 pm Post subject: FAA issues rules for drones |
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I think the point that DJ Merrill was making was that it is trivially
easy to make an email on this list look as if it came from you, while
it's actual sender is unidentified in the email. Consequently a link in
an email that appears to be from you may pose a risk.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
On 07/19/2016 04:50 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
| Quote: | At 02:21 PM 7/19/2016, you wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> Thank you for posting the real URL. Though I have not said anything in
> the past, I very much appreciate knowing where I will land before I
> click on a link.
Understand . . . but I've been using the tinyurl extension
on my browsers since the beginning. I check the ones
I embed into my emails to make sure they go where I
intend . . . I think the real risks come from the
scripts that pour down from some websites . . .
I've captured some of those scripts; the links
they can contain are many and cryptic. You need an
agile malware firewall more than anything else.
Knowing the name of the host website isn't of much
value but know too that I went there before you.
As always, each to his own policies and procedures.
If anything I post incites trepidation, one is
well advised to ignore the link . . .
Bob . . .
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ceengland7(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:21 pm Post subject: FAA issues rules for drones |
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Exactly. With nothing but the criptic 'doc files' in the header, there was nothing to convince that it wasn't a scammer posing as Bob.
-------- Original message --------
From: rayj
Date:07/19/2016 5:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: FAA issues rules for drones
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net>
I think the point that DJ Merrill was making was that it is trivially
easy to make an email on this list look as if it came from you, while
it's actual sender is unidentified in the email. Consequently a link in
an email that appears to be from you may pose a risk.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
On 07/19/2016 04:50 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
| Quote: | At 02:21 PM 7/19/2016, you wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> Thank you for posting the real URL. Though I have not said anything in
> the past, I very much appreciate knowing where I will land before I
> click on a link.
Understand . . . but I've been using the tinyurl extension
on my browsers since the beginning. I check the ones
I embed into my emails to make sure they go where I
intend . . . I think the real risks come from the
scripts that pour down from some websites . . .
I've captured some of those scripts; the links
they can contain are many and cryptic. You need an
agile malware firewall more than anything else.
Knowing the name of the host website isn't of much
value but know too that I went there before you.
As always, each to his own policies and procedures.
If anything I post incites trepidation, one is
well advised to ignore the link . . .
Bob . . .
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ribrdb(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:56 pm Post subject: FAA issues rules for drones |
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Except it said "doc flies", which is something Bob has been taking about.
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016, 5:27 PM Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com (ceengland7(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Exactly. With nothing but the criptic 'doc files' in the header, there was nothing to convince that it wasn't a scammer posing as Bob.
-------- Original message --------
From: rayj
Date:07/19/2016 5:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: FAA issues rules for drones
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)>
I think the point that DJ Merrill was making was that it is trivially
easy to make an email on this list look as if it came from you, while
it's actual sender is unidentified in the email. Consequently a link in
an email that appears to be from you may pose a risk.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
On 07/19/2016 04:50 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
| Quote: | At 02:21 PM 7/19/2016, you wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> Thank you for posting the real URL. Though I have not said anything in
> the past, I very much appreciate knowing where I will land before I
> click on a link.
   Understand . . . but I've been using the tinyurl extension
   on my browsers since the beginning. I check the ones
   I embed into my emails to make sure they go where I
   intend . . . I think the real risks come from the
   scripts that pour down from some websites . . .
   I've captured some of those scripts; the links
   they can contain are many and cryptic. You need an
   agile malware firewall more than anything else.
   Knowing the name of the host website isn't of much
   value but know too that I went there before you.
   As always, each to his own policies and procedures.
   If anything I post incites trepidation, one is
   well advised to ignore the link . . .
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ceengland7(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:16 pm Post subject: FAA issues rules for drones |
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The very first email in my inbox with that subject line, was the one that contained only the shortened link in the body of the email.
So, no context for me. Perhaps there were other messages on the web forum that didn't make it to email subscribers, but I had no way to know that 'doc files' was an ongoing subject line.
Charlie
On 7/19/2016 6:54 PM, Ryan Brown wrote:
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Except it said "doc flies", which is something Bob has been taking about.
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016, 5:27 PM Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com (ceengland7(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Exactly. With nothing but the criptic 'doc files' in the header, there was nothing to convince that it wasn't a scammer posing as Bob.
-------- Original message --------
From: rayj
Date:07/19/2016 5:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: FAA issues rules for drones
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)>
I think the point that DJ Merrill was making was that it is trivially
easy to make an email on this list look as if it came from you, while
it's actual sender is unidentified in the email. Consequently a link in
an email that appears to be from you may pose a risk.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
On 07/19/2016 04:50 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> At 02:21 PM 7/19/2016, you wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Thank you for posting the real URL. Though I have not said anything in
>> the past, I very much appreciate knowing where I will land before I
>> click on a link.
>
>Â Â Â Understand . . . but I've been using the tinyurl extension
>Â Â Â on my browsers since the beginning. I check the ones
>Â Â Â I embed into my emails to make sure they go where I
>Â Â Â intend . . . I think the real risks come from the
>Â Â Â scripts that pour down from some websites . . .
>Â Â Â I've captured some of those scripts; the links
>Â Â Â they can contain are many and cryptic. You need an
>Â Â Â agile malware firewall more than anything else.
>Â Â Â Knowing the name of the host website isn't of much
>Â Â Â value but know too that I went there before you.
>
>Â Â Â As always, each to his own policies and procedures.
>Â Â Â If anything I post incites trepidation, one is
>Â Â Â well advised to ignore the link . . .
> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List<           - MATRON> http://wiki.ma�         - List Contributi                         gt; htt
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ribrdb(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:41 pm Post subject: FAA issues rules for drones |
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My point was that the subject is about flying not filing. 'doc fLIes' not fILes.
Downloading a file with no information is certainly dangerous, but clicking on a link in an aviation related email from an aviation forum didn't seem very risky.
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016, 6:25 PM Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com (ceengland7(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | The very first email in my inbox with that subject line, was the one that contained only the shortened link in the body of the email.
So, no context for me. Perhaps there were other messages on the web forum that didn't make it to email subscribers, but I had no way to know that 'doc files' was an ongoing subject line.
Charlie
On 7/19/2016 6:54 PM, Ryan Brown wrote:
| Quote: |
Except it said "doc flies", which is something Bob has been taking about.
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Exactly. With nothing but the criptic 'doc files' in the header, there was nothing to convince that it wasn't a scammer posing as Bob.
-------- Original message --------
From: rayj
Date:07/19/2016 5:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: FAA issues rules for drones
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| Quote: | | Quote: | --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net (raymondj(at)frontiernet.net)>
I think the point that DJ Merrill was making was that it is trivially
easy to make an email on this list look as if it came from you, while
it's actual sender is unidentified in the email. Consequently a link in
an email that appears to be from you may pose a risk.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
On 07/19/2016 04:50 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> At 02:21 PM 7/19/2016, you wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Thank you for posting the real URL. Though I have not said anything in
>> the past, I very much appreciate knowing where I will land before I
>> click on a link.
>
>Â Â Â Understand . . . but I've been using the tinyurl extension
>Â Â Â on my browsers since the beginning. I check the ones
>Â Â Â I embed into my emails to make sure they go where I
>Â Â Â intend . . . I think the real risks come from the
>Â Â Â scripts that pour down from some websites . . .
>Â Â Â I've captured some of those scripts; the links
>Â Â Â they can contain are many and cryptic. You need an
>Â Â Â agile malware firewall more than anything else.
>Â Â Â Knowing the name of the host website isn't of much
>Â Â Â value but know too that I went there before you.
>
>Â Â Â As always, each to his own policies and procedures.
>Â Â Â If anything I post incites trepidation, one is
>Â Â Â well advised to ignore the link . . .
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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:57 pm Post subject: FAA issues rules for drones |
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Well, it wouldn't be that hard to hijack Bob's name and a subject line
that had been used.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
On 07/19/2016 07:39 PM, Ryan Brown wrote:
| Quote: | My point was that the subject is about flying not filing. 'doc fLIes'
not fILes.
Downloading a file with no information is certainly dangerous, but
clicking on a link in an aviation related email from an aviation forum
didn't seem very risky.
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016, 6:25 PM Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com
<mailto:ceengland7(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
The very first email in my inbox with that subject line, was the one
that contained only the shortened link in the body of the email.
So, no context for me. Perhaps there were other messages on the web
forum that didn't make it to email subscribers, but I had no way to
know that 'doc files' was an ongoing subject line.
Charlie
On 7/19/2016 6:54 PM, Ryan Brown wrote:
>
> Except it said "doc flies", which is something Bob has been taking
> about.
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016, 5:27 PM Charlie England
> <ceengland7(at)gmail.com <mailto:ceengland7(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Exactly. With nothing but the criptic 'doc files' in the
> header, there was nothing to convince that it wasn't a scammer
> posing as Bob.
> -------- Original message --------
> From: rayj
> Date:07/19/2016 5:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
> <mailto:aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: FAA issues rules for drones
>
>
> <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net <mailto:raymondj(at)frontiernet.net>>
>
> I think the point that DJ Merrill was making was that it is
> trivially
> easy to make an email on this list look as if it came from
> you, while
> it's actual sender is unidentified in the email. Consequently
> a link in
> an email that appears to be from you may pose a risk.
>
> Raymond Julian
> Kettle River, MN
>
> The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity,
> openness, honesty,
> understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in
> our system.
> And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness,
> meanness,
> egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while
> men
> admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the
> second.
> -John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
>
> On 07/19/2016 04:50 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> > At 02:21 PM 7/19/2016, you wrote:
> >> Hi Bob,
> >>
> >> Thank you for posting the real URL. Though I have not said
> anything in
> >> the past, I very much appreciate knowing where I will land
> before I
> >> click on a link.
> >
> > Understand . . . but I've been using the tinyurl extension
> > on my browsers since the beginning. I check the ones
> > I embed into my emails to make sure they go where I
> > intend . . . I think the real risks come from the
> > scripts that pour down from some websites . . .
> > I've captured some of those scripts; the links
> > they can contain are many and cryptic. You need an
> > agile malware firewall more than anything else.
> > Knowing the name of the host website isn't of much
> > value but know too that I went there before you.
> >
> > As always, each to his own policies and procedures.
> > If anything I post incites trepidation, one is
> > well advised to ignore the link . . .
>
> > --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List< -
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:24 am Post subject: FAA issues rules for drones |
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There is an option in TinyUrl to create a preview link so that anyone
can see where the link will take them.
On 7/19/2016 9:54 PM, rayj wrote:
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Well, it wouldn't be that hard to hijack Bob's name and a subject line
that had been used.
Raymond Julian
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