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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:11 am    Post subject: Installing Female FastOn Terminals Reply with quote

Moving from the middle of the wire to the end... I want FastOn terminals. Since I am soldering other stuff, I have no qualms about soldering here, too. Is this the right part?

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Do I crimp then solder then cover with heat shrink? Which crimper tool? Or should I do something else entirely?
Is 0.250 inch the right size or should I wait until I buy my fuse blocks and switches to be sure?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:24 am    Post subject: Installing Female FastOn Terminals Reply with quote

One more question: for uninsulated FastOn terminals, can I safely buy from the local electronics store or is this like insulated crimp connectors where I have to watch what I get because cheap automotive-grade parts use materials which are less-than-ideal for aviation?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:38 am    Post subject: Installing Female FastOn Terminals Reply with quote

This is a related but different question:

Bob, others, what do you use to crimp fully insulated Ultra Fast or Ultra Fast Plus terminals? Or is there another non-TE terminal that you prefer?

( I ask because if you DO try to crimp an Ultra Fast with the common PIDG crimper, it will barely work! )

—Daniel

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On Jul 20, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:
One more question: for uninsulated FastOn terminals, can I safely buy from the local electronics store or is this like insulated crimp connectors where I have to watch what I get because cheap automotive-grade parts use materials which are less-than-ideal for aviation?

-- Art Z.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:56 am    Post subject: Installing Female FastOn Terminals Reply with quote

Art -
Get your crimper and terminals from SteinAir.

www.steinair.com

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On Jul 20, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:
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One more question: for uninsulated FastOn terminals, can I safely buy from the local electronics store or is this like insulated crimp connectors where I have to watch what I get because cheap automotive-grade parts use materials which are less-than-ideal for aviation?
-- Art Z.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Installing Female FastOn Terminals Reply with quote

A concern with terminals, whether crimped or soldered, is the wire breaking from vibration. Most people crimp terminals because it does not make the wire stiff, which will lead to eventual breaking. However, a terminal can be soldered as long as the solder does not wick under the wire insulation. The terminal should clamp around the wire insulation. Heat shrink may be added for more support.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:03 am    Post subject: Installing Female FastOn Terminals Reply with quote

At 08:09 AM 7/20/2016, you wrote:
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Moving from the middle of the wire to the end... I want FastOn terminals. Since I am soldering other stuff, I have no qualms about soldering here, too. Is this the right part?

[img]cid:.0[/img]
​
Do I crimp then solder then cover with heat shrink? Which crimper tool? Or should I do something else entirely?

Is 0.250 inch the right size or should I wait until I buy my fuse blocks and switches to be sure?

.250 is the 95% common choice but
why not these terminals?

[img]cid:.1[/img]
You can find them on Digikey at http://tinyurl.com/hkws5dw
These are the premium fast-on parts.

The terminals you've cited can be installed with the
B&C open barrel crimp tool http://tinyurl.com/hxa9wey

This article speaks to the technique for using the two-crimp
tool on sheet metal pins http://tinyurl.com/9c444zm



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:13 am    Post subject: Installing Female FastOn Terminals Reply with quote

Yes, Bob;

Indeed, why not. Just what I was about to start looking for.
Cheers! Stu.


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At 08:09 AM 7/20/2016, you wrote:
Quote:
Moving from the middle of the wire to the end... I want FastOn terminals. Since I am soldering other stuff, I have no qualms about soldering here, too. Is this the right part?


[img]cid:.0[/img]
​
Do I crimp then solder then cover with heat shrink? Which crimper tool? Or should I do something else entirely?


Is 0.250 inch the right size or should I wait until I buy my fuse blocks and switches to be sure?

.250 is the 95% common choice but
why not these terminals?


[img]cid:.1[/img]
You can find them on Digikey at http://tinyurl.com/hkws5dw
These are the premium fast-on parts.


The terminals you've cited can be installed with the
B&C open barrel crimp tool http://tinyurl.com/hxa9wey


This article speaks to the technique for using the two-crimp
tool on sheet metal pins http://tinyurl.com/9c444zm


Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:22 am    Post subject: Installing Female FastOn Terminals Reply with quote

At 10:36 AM 7/20/2016, you wrote:
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This is a related but different question:

Bob, others, what do you use to crimp fully insulated Ultra Fast or Ultra Fast Plus terminals? Or is there another non-TE terminal that you prefer?

( I ask because if you DO try to crimp an Ultra Fast with the common PIDG crimper, it will barely work! )

—Daniel

What is the ultra-fast product. That'a a new
one on me.



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:25 am    Post subject: Installing Female FastOn Terminals Reply with quote

At 10:36 AM 7/20/2016, you wrote:
Quote:
This is a related but different question:

Bob, others, what do you use to crimp fully insulated Ultra Fast or Ultra Fast Plus terminals? Or is there another non-TE terminal that you prefer?

( I ask because if you DO try to crimp an Ultra Fast with the common PIDG crimper, it will barely work! )

—Daniel

What is the ultra-fast product. That'a a new
one on me.

OH . . . yeah . . . THOSE things. I think they're
in the plasti-grip family . . . no metalic insulation
grip. No doubt there is a terminal-friendly too
for this product line. My personal choice would
be to stick with PIDG or their competitive clones




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