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BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net
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Getting back to the Odessy PC680 for a moment.
My first one was purchased in late 2006, removed in 2011 on general principal ( over 4 yrs old. ).
I removed it and installed it in my lawn mower and it is still going strong ( 10 years ).
I just removed my second one over 5 years old because it was too weak to crank after years of cranking a very hard starting engine. Many times I ran it down and had to re-charge it in cooler weather. I fixed the hard starting so I do not anticipate any similar problems.
Odyssey says 3 ~ 10 years service life so we will see.
Bobby ( age 77 )
Zodiac 601 XL "B"
Jabiru 3300 S/N 1141
Sensenich 64" x 51" Prop
Status - Flying 268 hrs.
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markdonahue
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Location: bainbridge island washington
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My Odyssey PC 680 battery in my RV-9A failed to start the engine after two years in service. I removed to the dealer and after bench testing the CCA were down to 70 amp. A new battery solved the problem, but I was disappointed in the short life. I did not have it on a charger and never ran it down. It was just past the 24 month warranty.
Hopefully the new one will last longer.
Mark Donahue
RV 9A
300 hours.
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net
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Subject: Batteries
Getting back to the Odessy PC680 for a moment.
My first one was purchased in late 2006, removed in 2011 on general principal ( over 4 yrs old. ).
I removed it and installed it in my lawn mower and it is still going strong ( 10 years ).
I just removed my second one over 5 years old because it was too weak to crank after years of cranking a very hard starting engine. Many times I ran it down and had to re-charge it in cooler weather. I fixed the hard starting so I do not anticipate any similar problems.
Odyssey says 3 ~ 10 years service life so we will see.
Bobby ( age 77 )
Zodiac 601 XL "B"
Jabiru 3300 S/N 1141
Sensenich 64" x 51" Prop
Status - Flying 268 hrs.
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jmjones2000(at)mindspring
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| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:55 pm Post subject: Batteries |
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Mark,
Make sure you verify battery charging voltage. Low charging voltage (in the 13s) can cause premature battery failure on the AGM batteries.
Justin
On Jul 25, 2016, at 16:06, Mark Donahue <marktdonahue(at)comcast.net (marktdonahue(at)comcast.net)> wrote:
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My Odyssey PC 680 battery in my RV-9A failed to start the engine after two years in service. I removed to the dealer and after bench testing the CCA were down to 70 amp. A new battery solved the problem, but I was disappointed in the short life. I did not have it on a charger and never ran it down. It was just past the 24 month warranty.
Hopefully the new one will last longer.
Mark Donahue
RV 9A
300 hours.
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net (BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net)
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 12:43 PM
To: aeroelectric-list
Subject: Batteries
Getting back to the Odessy PC680 for a moment.
My first one was purchased in late 2006, removed in 2011 on general principal ( over 4 yrs old. ).
I removed it and installed it in my lawn mower and it is still going strong ( 10 years ).
I just removed my second one over 5 years old because it was too weak to crank after years of cranking a very hard starting engine. Many times I ran it down and had to re-charge it in cooler weather. I fixed the hard starting so I do not anticipate any similar problems.
Odyssey says 3 ~ 10 years service life so we will see.
Bobby ( age 77 )
Zodiac 601 XL "B"
Jabiru 3300 S/N 1141
Sensenich 64" x 51" Prop
Status - Flying 268 hrs.
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Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:06 am Post subject: Batteries |
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I would 2nd that suggestion having had a lot of experience ruining multiple Odyssey 680s.
 My RV10 carries 2 of them. I had one operating on a bus that ran at 13.4 volts and one on a buss that runs at 14.5+. The batteries on the 13.4 volt circuit lived less than 2 years - an early but slow death.
You can also slowly kill discharged 680s by putting them on a low amp (2 amp charger) but that's well documented in the spec sheets and the AeroE archives.
They are great batteries (light, powerful, long lasting) but the charging requirements are a bit different than plain lead acid batts.
Bill "looking for more 680s to kill" Watson
On 7/26/2016 3:54 AM, Justin Jones wrote:
| Quote: | Mark,
Make sure you verify battery charging voltage. Low charging voltage (in the 13s) can cause premature battery failure on the AGM batteries.Â
Justin
On Jul 25, 2016, at 16:06, Mark Donahue <marktdonahue(at)comcast.net (marktdonahue(at)comcast.net)> wrote:
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My Odyssey PC 680 battery in my RV-9A failed to start the engine after two years in service. I removed to the dealer and after bench testing the CCA were down to 70 amp. A new battery solved the problem, but I was disappointed in the short life. I did not have it on a charger and never ran it down. It was just past the 24 month warranty.
Hopefully the new one will last longer.
Mark Donahue
RV 9A
300 hours.
Â
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net (BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net)
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 12:43 PM
To: aeroelectric-list
Subject: Batteries
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Getting back to the Odessy PC680 for a moment.
My first one was purchased in late 2006, removed in 2011 on general principal ( over 4 yrs old. ).
I removed it and installed it in my lawn mower and it is still going strong ( 10 years ).
I just removed my second one over 5 years old because it was too weak to crank after years of cranking a very hard starting engine. Many times I ran it down and had to re-charge it in cooler weather. I fixed the hard starting so I do not anticipate any similar problems.
Odyssey says 3 ~ 10 years service life so we will see.
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Bobby ( age 77 )
Zodiac 601 XL "B"
Jabiru 3300 S/N 1141
Sensenich 64" x 51" Prop
Status - Flying 268 hrs.
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markdonahue
Joined: 16 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:28 am Post subject: Batteries |
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My voltage gauge indicates over 14 volts when the engine is running. I will put my multimeter on it to confirm.
Thanks for the feedback.
Mark
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:05 AM
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Subject: Re: Batteries
I would 2nd that suggestion having had a lot of experience ruining multiple Odyssey 680s.
My RV10 carries 2 of them. I had one operating on a bus that ran at 13.4 volts and one on a buss that runs at 14.5+. The batteries on the 13.4 volt circuit lived less than 2 years - an early but slow death.
You can also slowly kill discharged 680s by putting them on a low amp (2 amp charger) but that's well documented in the spec sheets and the AeroE archives.
They are great batteries (light, powerful, long lasting) but the charging requirements are a bit different than plain lead acid batts.
Bill "looking for more 680s to kill" Watson
On 7/26/2016 3:54 AM, Justin Jones wrote:
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Mark,
Make sure you verify battery charging voltage. Low charging voltage (in the 13s) can cause premature battery failure on the AGM batteries.
Justin
On Jul 25, 2016, at 16:06, Mark Donahue <marktdonahue(at)comcast.net (marktdonahue(at)comcast.net)> wrote:
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My Odyssey PC 680 battery in my RV-9A failed to start the engine after two years in service. I removed to the dealer and after bench testing the CCA were down to 70 amp. A new battery solved the problem, but I was disappointed in the short life. I did not have it on a charger and never ran it down. It was just past the 24 month warranty.
Hopefully the new one will last longer.
Mark Donahue
RV 9A
300 hours.
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net (BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net)
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 12:43 PM
To: aeroelectric-list
Subject: Batteries
Getting back to the Odessy PC680 for a moment.
My first one was purchased in late 2006, removed in 2011 on general principal ( over 4 yrs old. ).
I removed it and installed it in my lawn mower and it is still going strong ( 10 years ).
I just removed my second one over 5 years old because it was too weak to crank after years of cranking a very hard starting engine. Many times I ran it down and had to re-charge it in cooler weather. I fixed the hard starting so I do not anticipate any similar problems.
Odyssey says 3 ~ 10 years service life so we will see.
Bobby ( age 77 )
Zodiac 601 XL "B"
Jabiru 3300 S/N 1141
Sensenich 64" x 51" Prop
Status - Flying 268 hrs.
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jmjones2000(at)mindspring
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:50 am Post subject: Batteries |
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Maybe someone will correct me if I am wrong but it needs to be somewhere very close to 14.4.
Justin
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My voltage gauge indicates over 14 volts when the engine is running. I will put my multimeter on it to confirm.
Thanks for the feedback.
Mark
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
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I would 2nd that suggestion having had a lot of experience ruining multiple Odyssey 680s.
My RV10 carries 2 of them. I had one operating on a bus that ran at 13.4 volts and one on a buss that runs at 14.5+. The batteries on the 13.4 volt circuit lived less than 2 years - an early but slow death.
You can also slowly kill discharged 680s by putting them on a low amp (2 amp charger) but that's well documented in the spec sheets and the AeroE archives.
They are great batteries (light, powerful, long lasting) but the charging requirements are a bit different than plain lead acid batts.
Bill "looking for more 680s to kill" Watson
On 7/26/2016 3:54 AM, Justin Jones wrote:
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Mark,
Make sure you verify battery charging voltage. Low charging voltage (in the 13s) can cause premature battery failure on the AGM batteries.
Justin
On Jul 25, 2016, at 16:06, Mark Donahue <marktdonahue(at)comcast.net (marktdonahue(at)comcast.net)> wrote:
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My Odyssey PC 680 battery in my RV-9A failed to start the engine after two years in service. I removed to the dealer and after bench testing the CCA were down to 70 amp. A new battery solved the problem, but I was disappointed in the short life. I did not have it on a charger and never ran it down. It was just past the 24 month warranty.
Hopefully the new one will last longer.
Mark Donahue
RV 9A
300 hours.
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net (BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net)
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 12:43 PM
To: aeroelectric-list
Subject: Batteries
Getting back to the Odessy PC680 for a moment.
My first one was purchased in late 2006, removed in 2011 on general principal ( over 4 yrs old. ).
I removed it and installed it in my lawn mower and it is still going strong ( 10 years ).
I just removed my second one over 5 years old because it was too weak to crank after years of cranking a very hard starting engine. Many times I ran it down and had to re-charge it in cooler weather. I fixed the hard starting so I do not anticipate any similar problems.
Odyssey says 3 ~ 10 years service life so we will see.
Bobby ( age 77 )
Zodiac 601 XL "B"
Jabiru 3300 S/N 1141
Sensenich 64" x 51" Prop
Status - Flying 268 hrs.
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At 12:49 PM 7/26/2016, you wrote:
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Enersys is 'happy' with anything between
14.1 and 14.7 volts. See:
http://tinyurl.com/hb4s7c4
. . . in particular Figure 6 and first
paragraph on page 13.
Bob . . .
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