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JonathanMilbank
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 Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:58 pm Post subject: Report: Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction |
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Just over 3 years ago I got my mono converted to tri-gear and it was suggested to use the Nye product as a means of enabling the nose-wheel to castor smoothly i.e. no jerky snatching when initiating turns with brakes. Because this grease can also be used as a lubricant, I applied it to the spindle and bronze bushes.
This was an excellent idea which has worked smoothly and trouble free during over 200 hours and about 250 flights. As time goes by the grease on the friction disc gradually gets squeezed out around the edge of the disc and needs to be wiped away.
A couple of flights ago I experienced slight nose-wheel shimmy while landing and therefore tightened the nut at the top of the spindle, before making another flight and getting a repeat of the shimmy.
So today I removed the nose-wheel fork and was slightly surprised to discover that there were only a few slight traces of Nye grease on the friction disc, which had become glass smooth and dry without any stickiness. The grease remaining on the spindle and the bushes had become somewhat less sticky and was quite easy to wipe away.
All metal surfaces were corrosion free, unmarked and look new, so the grease definitely lubricates and protects. Following thorough cleaning with acetone and paper towel, I applied new grease as before and reassembled, checking that the nose-wheel fork has similar resistance to being turned.
Hindsight is marvellous and I thought when driving home that perhaps I should have slightly roughened the friction disc to give the grease a better surface to hold. Ah well, next time!
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dpark748(at)icloud.com
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:29 pm Post subject: Report: Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction |
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I also used sticky grease! Can't remember name, it's in the hangar. I found it difficult to turn on the brakes and have reverted to the original system. Will compare you product with mine?
Dave Park
| Quote: | On 31 Jul 2016, at 22:58, jonathanmilbank <jdmilbank(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Just over 3 years ago I got my mono converted to tri-gear and it was suggested to use the Nye product as a means of enabling the nose-wheel to castor smoothly i.e. no jerky snatching when initiating turns with brakes. Because this grease can also be used as a lubricant, I applied it to the spindle and bronze bushes.
This was an excellent idea which has worked smoothly and trouble free during over 200 hours and about 250 flights. As time goes by the grease on the friction disc gradually gets squeezed out around the edge of the disc and needs to be wiped away.
A couple of flights ago I experienced slight nose-wheel shimmy while landing and therefore tightened the nut at the top of the spindle, before making another flight and getting a repeat of the shimmy.
So today I removed the nose-wheel fork and was slightly surprised to discover that there were only a few slight traces of Nye grease on the friction disc, which had become glass smooth and dry without any stickiness. The grease remaining on the spindle and the bushes had become somewhat less sticky and was quite easy to wipe away.
All metal surfaces were corrosion free, unmarked and look new, so the grease definitely lubricates and protects. Following thorough cleaning with acetone and paper towel, I applied new grease as before and reassembled, checking that the nose-wheel fork has similar resistance to being turned.
Hindsight is marvellous and I thought when driving home that perhaps I should have slightly roughened the friction disc to give the grease a better surface to hold. Ah well, next time!
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Jim Kelly
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:16 am Post subject: Report: Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction |
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Hi Dave, Did you remember to photograph the Ultimate Ventilator position for me ?
Have you flown to Alderney yet, if not fancy a flight?
Jim
On Sunday, 31 July 2016, david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com (dpark748(at)icloud.com)> wrote:
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I also used sticky grease! Can't remember name, it's in the hangar. I found it difficult to turn on the brakes and have reverted to the original system. Will compare you product with mine?
Dave Park
> On 31 Jul 2016, at 22:58, jonathanmilbank <[url=javascript:;]jdmilbank(at)yahoo.co.uk[/url]> wrote:
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> Just over 3 years ago I got my mono converted to tri-gear and it was suggested to use the Nye product as a means of enabling the nose-wheel to castor smoothly i.e. no jerky snatching when initiating turns with brakes. Because this grease can also be used as a lubricant, I applied it to the spindle and bronze bushes.
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> This was an excellent idea which has worked smoothly and trouble free during over 200 hours and about 250 flights. As time goes by the grease on the friction disc gradually gets squeezed out around the edge of the disc and needs to be wiped away.
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> A couple of flights ago I experienced slight nose-wheel shimmy while landing and therefore tightened the nut at the top of the spindle, before making another flight and getting a repeat of the shimmy.
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> So today I removed the nose-wheel fork and was slightly surprised to discover that there were only a few slight traces of Nye grease on the friction disc, which had become glass smooth and dry without any stickiness. The grease remaining on the spindle and the bushes had become somewhat less sticky and was quite easy to wipe away.
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> All metal surfaces were corrosion free, unmarked and look new, so the grease definitely lubricates and protects. Following thorough cleaning with acetone and paper towel, I applied new grease as before and reassembled, checking that the nose-wheel fork has similar resistance to being turned.
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> Hindsight is marvellous and I thought when driving home that perhaps I should have slightly roughened the friction disc to give the grease a better surface to hold. Ah well, next time!
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:28 am Post subject: Report: Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction |
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Will be down on Saturday will send then.
Dave
Dave Park
On 1 Aug 2016, at 09:16, James Kelly <europajimkelly(at)gmail.com (europajimkelly(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Dave, Did you remember to photograph the Ultimate Ventilator position for me ?
Have you flown to Alderney yet, if not fancy a flight?
Jim
On Sunday, 31 July 2016, david park <dpark748(at)icloud.com (dpark748(at)icloud.com)> wrote:
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I also used sticky grease! Can't remember name, it's in the hangar. I found it difficult to turn on the brakes and have reverted to the original system. Will compare you product with mine?
Dave Park
> On 31 Jul 2016, at 22:58, jonathanmilbank <[url=javascript:;]jdmilbank(at)yahoo.co.uk[/url]> wrote:
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> Just over 3 years ago I got my mono converted to tri-gear and it was suggested to use the Nye product as a means of enabling the nose-wheel to castor smoothly i.e. no jerky snatching when initiating turns with brakes. Because this grease can also be used as a lubricant, I applied it to the spindle and bronze bushes.
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> This was an excellent idea which has worked smoothly and trouble free during over 200 hours and about 250 flights. As time goes by the grease on the friction disc gradually gets squeezed out around the edge of the disc and needs to be wiped away.
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> A couple of flights ago I experienced slight nose-wheel shimmy while landing and therefore tightened the nut at the top of the spindle, before making another flight and getting a repeat of the shimmy.
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> So today I removed the nose-wheel fork and was slightly surprised to discover that there were only a few slight traces of Nye grease on the friction disc, which had become glass smooth and dry without any stickiness. The grease remaining on the spindle and the bushes had become somewhat less sticky and was quite easy to wipe away.
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> All metal surfaces were corrosion free, unmarked and look new, so the grease definitely lubricates and protects. Following thorough cleaning with acetone and paper towel, I applied new grease as before and reassembled, checking that the nose-wheel fork has similar resistance to being turned.
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> Hindsight is marvellous and I thought when driving home that perhaps I should have slightly roughened the friction disc to give the grease a better surface to hold. Ah well, next time!
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Report: Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction |
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Hi Jim,
I haven't flown abroad yet, so if you chaps are planning a trip to Alderney I'd be interested in joining you to break my duck.
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Carl
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Jim Kelly
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:59 am Post subject: Report: Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction |
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Good to hear from you Carl. If and when I plan to fly to Alderney I'll keep you posted. What's your experience to date ? The first time I flew abroad to France was last year with three other Europa's it was the LOSW trip (Last Of The Summer Wine). The whole experience was brilliant it does wonders for your self confidence and experience. The organiser was Dr David Joyce I couldn't fault a thing. My longest flight prior to that was from Tatenhill to Caernarfon 112 nm. I had a lot of encouragement and help from all the other pilots particularly David.
Since my first French flight I've crossed the Channel six times, never a problem other than being weather bound in Guernsey.
Keep in touch
Jim
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Hi Jim,
I haven't flown abroad yet, so if you chaps are planning a trip to Alderney I'd be interested in joining you to break my duck.
Regards
Carl
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:01 am Post subject: Re: Report: Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction |
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Hi Jim,
I'm coming up to 300 hours P1. I have 100+ in my Europa. I recently flew down to the Scilly Isles (208 nm) and back in a day from Membury. I've got the PLB and life jackets, so I'm all set for the trip. I just don't have the international experience and thought it makes sense to do the first one with someone who has. Plus it'll be more fun with someone else.
All the best.
Carl
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:11 am Post subject: Report: Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction |
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On 2016-08-04, at 14:48, carlp101 <cparkinson(at)cisc-uk.com> wrote:
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I haven't flown abroad yet, so if you chaps are planning a trip to Alderney I'd be interested in joining you to break my duck.
Regards
Carl
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Sorry, what’s this got to do with "Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction”?
It’s really helpful for folk serching the Matronics archives if the e-mail “SUBJECT” line has something to do with what’s being discussed in the body of the message!
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:09 am Post subject: Report: Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction |
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Jim , might join you if I can get my jobs done.
Dave
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Hi Jim,
I'm coming up to 300 hours P1. I have 100+ in my Europa. I recently flew down to the Scilly Isles (208 nm) and back in a day from Membury. I've got the PLB and life jackets, so I'm all set for the trip. I just don't have the international experience and thought it makes sense to do the first one with someone who has. Plus it'll be more fun with someone else.
All the best.
Carl
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Report: Nye grease nose-wheel fork friction |
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So. Regarding grease for the nose wheel. On a thread on this forum called "Damping grease" I said:
I've tried the PG-44A [damping grease] from Newgate Simms. It's great. I put in on the upper face of the friction plate. Now I can easily steer my plane easily and I don't get the nose-wheel shimmy when landing. I'd thoroughly recommend it.
50g £22.50 + VAT
Newgate Simms Limited
Broughton Mills Road
Bretton, Chester
CH4 0BY
United Kingdom
Tel: +44(0)1244 660771
Email: shop(at)newgatesimms.com
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