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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:06 am    Post subject: Squeezing a battery Reply with quote

On 7/28/2016 12:36 PM, Sebastien wrote:
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I recently built a battery holder for an Odyssey PC545 battery to mount it on the firewall. Thought I had left a bit of wiggle room to get the battery in and out but now that it's bolted to the firewall it's in there tight. I don't mind having to remove 5 bolts every couple years to remove the battery (better than remaking the holder) but will it damage the battery to squeeze it? I don't think there is much if any pressure on the battery but it's already going to be stressed sitting in the heat in the engine compartment. Do these batteries need room to thermally expand at all?

Thank you

Sebastien
Is the clamping effect to the firewall itself (still some space moving

battery side to side)? If so, you can shim the battery box out from the
firewall with a washer or two under each mounting bolt.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:43 am    Post subject: Squeezing a battery Reply with quote

I don't want to shim out with washers as I'm worried about stressing the firewall but I will make two full sized plates to shim out if I have to. A good point thank you.

Sebastien

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> On 7/28/2016 12:36 PM, Sebastien wrote:
> I recently built a battery holder for an Odyssey PC545 battery to mount it on the firewall. Thought I had left a bit of wiggle room to get the battery in and out but now that it's bolted to the firewall it's in there tight. I don't mind having to remove 5 bolts every couple years to remove the battery (better than remaking the holder) but will it damage the battery to squeeze it? I don't think there is much if any pressure on the battery but it's already going to be stressed sitting in the heat in the engine compartment. Do these batteries need room to thermally expand at all?
>
> Thank you
>
> Sebastien
Is the clamping effect to the firewall itself (still some space moving battery side to side)? If so, you can shim the battery box out from the firewall with a washer or two under each mounting bolt.

Charlie






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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:15 am    Post subject: Squeezing a battery Reply with quote

It looks like somewhere between 10 to 30 washers could give you a snug fit as desired.


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On Jul 28, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com> wrote:

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Sebastien

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 10:36, Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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> I recently built a battery holder for an Odyssey PC545 battery to mount it on the firewall. Thought I had left a bit of wiggle room to get the battery in and out but now that it's bolted to the firewall it's in there tight. I don't mind having to remove 5 bolts every couple years to remove the battery (better than remaking the holder) but will it damage the battery to squeeze it? I don't think there is much if any pressure on the battery but it's already going to be stressed sitting in the heat in the engine compartment. Do these batteries need room to thermally expand at all?
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> <image1.JPG>
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>
> Thank you
>
> Sebastien


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:13 pm    Post subject: Squeezing a battery Reply with quote

Further along, in the EAC book Bob provides a procedure for testing the regulator in flight and suggests wiring the regulator sense directly to the battery if there is a difference between the battery voltage and the bus voltage. My voltage regulator in 12 inches from the battery which leads me to wonder:

Is there any reason NOT to have the regulator sense battery voltage directly at the battery? Any reason to have holes in the firewall to sense anywhere else?

Thank you.

Sebastien

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On Jul 28, 2016, at 10:36, Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I recently built a battery holder for an Odyssey PC545 battery to mount it on the firewall. Thought I had left a bit of wiggle room to get the battery in and out but now that it's bolted to the firewall it's in there tight. I don't mind having to remove 5 bolts every couple years to remove the battery (better than remaking the holder) but will it damage the battery to squeeze it? I don't think there is much if any pressure on the battery but it's already going to be stressed sitting in the heat in the engine compartment. Do these batteries need room to thermally expand at all?

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Thank you

Sebastien


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:29 pm    Post subject: Squeezing a battery Reply with quote

At 09:12 PM 8/7/2016, you wrote:
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Further along, in the EAC book Bob provides a procedure for testing the regulator in flight and suggests wiring the regulator sense directly to the battery if there is a difference between the battery voltage and the bus voltage. My voltage regulator in 12 inches from the battery which leads me to wonder:

Is there any reason NOT to have the regulator sense battery voltage directly at the battery? Any reason to have holes in the firewall to sense anywhere else?

Yes . . . that lead may draw some small current
that would discharge the battery of a parked airplane.
Moving it to the battery is a TROUBLE SHOOTING
activity . . . not a suggestion for architecture.

The properly fabricated system operates as
advertised with the sense lead watching the
main bus.



Bob . . .


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